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  1. bassplayrguy's Avatar
    Stop complaining about something you haven't even used yet. Or better yet, if it is a big deal, go buy something else. Noone is forcing you to use or buy it. It is not about options either or ppl would be raging about not remapping the power button too. Leys grow up and stop being so negative. This is a great phone!
    T48, Poppy59, areyes163 and 1 others like this.
    04-17-2017 09:40 PM
  2. KupKrazy's Avatar
    Not me - I'm looking forward to seeing what Bixby can do!
    EMGSM, amyf27 and Mike-Mike like this.
    04-17-2017 09:44 PM
  3. xsikal's Avatar
    Quit crying about people crying about Bixby. ;-)
    04-17-2017 09:44 PM
  4. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    I'm looking forward to Bixby. Remember all the moaning about the glass back Note 7 being nothing more than an S7 Edge with an S-pen? Fast forward 3 months and you can't even force them to give up the phone even though it's potentially dangerous.

    It's what Samsung fans/haters do, they complain.
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    04-17-2017 09:49 PM
  5. Almeuit's Avatar
    Stop complaining about something you haven't even used yet. Or better yet, if it is a big deal, go buy something else. Noone is forcing you to use or buy it. It is not about options either or ppl would be raging about not remapping the power button too. Leys grow up and stop being so negative. This is a great phone!


    I don't see being negative as crying.. I see it as adults voicing their opinions on a subject.. you know.. the point of a discussion forum?

    These type of threads breed more negativity than the ones where people are discussing the topic with their opinions on the matter.
    04-17-2017 09:55 PM
  6. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    I don't see being negative as crying.. I see it as adults voicing their opinions on a subject.. you know.. the point of a discussion forum?
    Nothing wrong with opinions. But the OP has a good point. Raise your hand if you've actually tried it...

    Sure, I had opinions about Google Assistant, but until I used it, I was ranting about something I hadn't used.
    04-17-2017 09:57 PM
  7. Almeuit's Avatar
    Nothing wrong with opinions. But the OP has a good point. Raise your hand if you've actually tried it...
    And how many of us give opinions on phones all the time before we have ever touched them? From design, to functions,etc.. yeah your point doesn't really make much sense.
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    04-17-2017 09:57 PM
  8. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    And how many of us give opinions on phones all the time before we have ever touched them? From design, to functions,etc.. yeah your point doesn't really make much sense.
    You're missing the point. Opinions and knee jerk ******** are two different things... If you haven't used it.

    Absolutely people moan about phones they haven't used... Doesn't make it intelligent discussion
    04-17-2017 10:01 PM
  9. Almeuit's Avatar
    You're missing the point. Opinions and ******** are two different things... If you haven't used it.

    Absolutely people moan about phones they haven't used... Doesn't make it intelligent discussion
    Sorry I disagree. Just because people may not like it doesn't mean their opinion is any less valid then yours or mine.. so they're welcome to share and discuss it. If you don't like the discussion simply don't go to that thread. If you do go and they're doing something that needs attention then report it.. but to shun them and tell them they can't talk about something because it doesn't fit what you want?

    Sorry..No.
    bhatech, xsikal, ScottsoNJ and 3 others like this.
    04-17-2017 10:02 PM
  10. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Here's the thing.

    Is Bixby even that good to warrant its own dedicated button (that's now unmappable)?

    Google Assistant is nice but I only use it to check the weather and create reminders. I haven't really fluffed much with AI-based assistants because they all have a ways to go before I find them truly useful without feeling awkward while using them. From what I've seen with Bixby, it doesn't seem to have that one killer feature that would make me go "Yes, I want this!". Maybe that might change when I give it a go, but as it stands right now, I'm not entirely convinced that Bixby is worth having its own dedicated button.

    That's just my own 2 cents, though.
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    04-17-2017 10:06 PM
  11. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Sorry I disagree. Just because people may not like it doesn't mean their opinion is any less valid then yours or mine.. so they're welcome to share and discuss it. If you don't like the discussion simply don't go to that thread. If you do go and they're doing something that needs attention then report it.. but to shun them and tell them they can't talk about something because it doesn't fit what you want?

    Sorry..No.
    That's exactly what I'm saying to you.
    Works both ways. The OP is also entitled to his thoughts on the matter.
    04-17-2017 10:06 PM
  12. Gsxr151's Avatar
    X2, OP
    04-17-2017 10:07 PM
  13. Almeuit's Avatar
    That's exactly what I'm saying to you.
    Works both ways. The OP is also entitled to his thoughts on the matter.
    Yes he is but not to sit and tell people what to post and not what to post. That's a tad different .
    04-17-2017 10:07 PM
  14. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Here's the thing.

    Is Bixby even that good to warrant its own dedicated button (that's now unmappable)?

    Google Assistant is nice but I only use it to check the weather and create reminders. I haven't really fluffed much with AI-based assistants because they all have a ways to go before I find them truly useful without feeling awkward while using them. From what I've seen with Bixby, it doesn't seem to have that one killer feature that would make me go "Yes, I want this!". Maybe that might change when I give it a go, but as it stands right now, I'm not entirely convinced that Bixby is worth having its own dedicated button.

    That's just my own 2 cents, though.
    That's all I'm saying. Bixby will be something some will love, others will ignore. There is no right or wrong. And each side should be heard. Perhaps the OP should have headed his post differently.
    04-17-2017 10:09 PM
  15. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    That's all in saying. Bixby will be something some will love, others will ignore. There is no right or wrong.
    Honestly, I think Samsung should have natively added an option to allow users to remap the Bixby button to whatever they wish, just like the Active Key on the Galaxy S Actives.

    Not everyone is going to use Bixby, so allowing those people to remap the button to do whatever they wish seems logical. Removing the option just makes that button a bit of a dead weight to those folks.
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    04-17-2017 10:12 PM
  16. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Honestly, I think Samsung should have natively added an option to allow users to remap the Bixby button to whatever they wish, just like the Active Key on the Galaxy S Actives.

    Not everyone is going to use Bixby, so allowing those people to remap the button to do whatever they wish seems logical. Removing the option just makes that button a bit of a dead weight to those folks.
    I don't disagree. I think they're putting a lot of work and money into Bixby and perhaps got a little over excited about its use. The button was not necessary, but I think pushing themselves into AI territory was. Unlike others I don't think Samsung should just sit back and except everything Google because it's Google. What if they can push things further? I certainly have no problem with that.

    If it sucks, well that's too bad, but I don't ever want companies to be afraid of giving us innovation.
    04-17-2017 10:18 PM
  17. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I don't disagree. I think they're putting a lot of work and money into Bixby and perhaps got a little over excited about its use. The button was not necessary, but I think pushing themselves into AI territory was. Unlike others I don't think Samsung should just sit back and except everything Google because it's Google. What if they can push things further? I certainly have no problem with that.
    Samsung does have its own reasons for developing Bixby. After all, they are pushing their own ecosystem with their smart appliances and accessories.

    I just feel that there still should be the choice for those who either want to use Bixby or maybe want that button to do something else. I'm sure Bixby will at least be better than S Voice, however.
    04-17-2017 10:22 PM
  18. Almeuit's Avatar
    That's all I'm saying. Bixby will be something some will love, others will ignore. There is no right or wrong. And each side should be heard. Perhaps the OP should have headed his post differently.
    And I agree. There was plenty of people who hated Google Assistant in the Pixel forums before ever trying it.. people form their opinions with what they think it'll be. I didn't shun them for it or say they can't discuss it just because I happened to want said feature.
    04-17-2017 10:22 PM
  19. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    And I agree. There was plenty of people who hated Google Assistant in the Pixel forums before ever trying it.. people form their opinions with what they think it'll be. I didn't shun them for it or say they can't discuss it just because I happened to want said feature.
    No.. I don't think people should be shunned for their options. But my point was, what if it actually works? What if it's another Samsung Pay, and you've downed it before even trying it?

    Once the phone is out and it's clear it's a failure, I'll be the first to admit it.
    04-17-2017 10:26 PM
  20. Ry's Avatar
    This could all be solved by: don't buy the S8 if you're complaining about Bixby.
    04-17-2017 10:29 PM
  21. Almeuit's Avatar
    No.. I don't think people should be shunned for their options. But my point was, what if it actually works? What if it's another Samsung Pay, and you've downed it before even trying it?

    Once the phone is out and it's clear it's a failure, I'll be the first to admit it.
    I'd admit I'm wrong and move on. Simple. I don't hold it to that serious of a thing :P.
    04-17-2017 10:29 PM
  22. Aquila's Avatar
    Is anyone actually mad about bixby? Does it suck? Yeah, probably. But are people upset? They shouldn't be. If they are, why?
    04-18-2017 06:55 AM
  23. ol_jackburton's Avatar
    Is anyone actually mad about bixby? Does it suck? Yeah, probably. But are people upset? They shouldn't be. If they are, why?
    There are several folks who have professed hatred for it, and to me that is a baffling response. To me its fine, i just hope samsung is all in (seems like they are) and will keep supporting it.
    04-18-2017 07:03 AM
  24. donm527's Avatar
    I don't think anyone is crying about Bixby. I think there may be one or two crying about Bixby posts.

    I don't think anyone cares about Bixby to hate it... Everyone that buys a phone will press the button, maybe give it a shot, and if they don't like it just ignore it.

    The issue people are giving their 2 cents on, or complaining about... is that you can't disable it if you don't like it. You couldn't even disable the button if you don't like it. You can't even disable the swipe left that take you to the Bixby cards.

    At least with the S6 I played with you had Flipboard installed and had a swipe left installed to go into the flipboard widget... but you at least had the option to disable it by Samsung.

    And when the devs find a way to disable the button, Samsung takes a heavy hand to block it. I do find it find it stupid you have a dedicated button that you can't do anything about and in a position that you WILL hit now and then.

    I think it's not unusual for people to discuss it and even be annoyed with it. Hopefully it keeps getting discussed so that devs are more determined to find another work around and give Samsung the finger for blocking it. Why tell people to stop talking about it... just lay down and accept it? lol.
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    04-18-2017 07:24 AM
  25. robber's Avatar
    Other than pure fingers crossed hope that it does something cool, where does any excitement stem from? Contextual awareness? Dynamic content delivered as you need it? Bixby launch announcement echo'd Google Now in 2014. What bothers me personally is that always on display, facial recognition and other features that Samsung has implemented ARE actually cool and usable. Their development efforts should be on this level, not targeting Google head on.

    I anticipate that the big gotcha that is still mostly hiding is that Bixby is going to require a user to utilize Samsung's native email, calendar, contact apps, etc. This is far and away the most reasonable and probable way for it to access email, calendar etc which is mandatory to perform its functionality. If this is in fact true, it seems to indicate that there will be a lot happening on a device level that Google and Apple have the luxury of performing in the cloud w/o any reliance on the endpoint itself.
    04-18-2017 08:12 AM
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