Moment 2.1 Changes/Findings Thread

**JayCudi** · 05-15-2010, 04:27 AM

Here's a 3D Gallery replacement

Thanks to ecaggiani

**LSanna1488** · 05-15-2010, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by RickMG

LSanna1488, I went to Sprint today and they updated the phone to 2.1 (after me telling them it was available). I backed everything (I thought) up using My Backup Pro just before and removed my SD card before they updated. I lost most everything I really needed. My memos, paid apps, etc. When I had my Palm phones I used NV Backup and the many times that I would change phones or hard reset a phone, it never failed to bring the phone back to the exact way it was before in just minutes. How do you do a system backup, and will that backup everything, ringers, settings, data, etc.?

If anyone knows of a backup program that does for Android all that NV Backup did for Palm, please let me know. Please, as I'm sure you can understand, only answer if you have used it to restore from a hard reset, as before today I would've answered to use My Backup Pro.

I feel your loss. Unfortunately My Backup Pro only backs up data and apps. What you needed to do was to boot into recovery, by holding down... "vol down, send, and end keys" selecting system then backup. This makes a COMPLETE backup of your entire system. Settings and such as well. Im not sure if there is a app or program that does what NV Backup does for the Android. If everything was on your sd card it will still be there, youll just have to find the program or app to open it again. And as far as your paid apps go, all you should have to do is to reinstall them. If it doesnt work email the developers of the apps and they should let you redownload for free

**RickMG** · 05-15-2010, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by LSanna1488

I feel your loss. Unfortunately My Backup Pro only backs up data and apps. What you needed to do was to boot into recovery, by holding down... "vol down, send, and end keys" selecting system then backup. This makes a COMPLETE backup of your entire system. Settings and such as well. Im not sure if there is a app or program that does what NV Backup does for the Android. If everything was on your sd card it will still be there, youll just have to find the program or app to open it again. And as far as your paid apps go, all you should have to do is to reinstall them. If it doesnt work email the developers of the apps and they should let you redownload for free

Thank you for the quick reply. When you boot into recovery does that save on the SD card? I wouldn't know otherwise how the backup would work if you changed phones?

I do think though that I have bigger issues than that now. My battery, which used to last over a day (I'm a light user) went from fully charged at 2:00 a.m. last night to 30% this morning at 8:30 a.m. when I woke up. I don't have any programs extra on the phone from before with the exception of Google Goggles and the ones that came with the upgrade. This could really be a deal breaker for me as I should not have to carry an extra battery around. I also wonder if the Sprint store switched a bad battery for my good one as they were really pissed that I had to tell them that there is an upgrade and that Sprint's own website said they advise people to bring them in for the upgrade when they told me that was something I had to do myself. ??? Thanks again.

**LSanna1488** · 05-15-2010, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by RickMG

Thank you for the quick reply. When you boot into recovery does that save on the SD card? I wouldn't know otherwise how the backup would work if you changed phones?

I do think though that I have bigger issues than that now. My battery, which used to last over a day (I'm a light user) went from fully charged at 2:00 a.m. last night to 30% this morning at 8:30 a.m. when I woke up. I don't have any programs extra on the phone from before with the exception of Google Goggles and the ones that came with the upgrade. This could really be a deal breaker for me as I should not have to carry an extra battery around. I also wonder if the Sprint store switched a bad battery for my good one as they were really pissed that I had to tell them that there is an upgrade and that Sprint's own website said they advise people to bring them in for the upgrade when they told me that was something I had to do myself. ??? Thanks again.

Yes all backups are saved to the sd card. As far as the battery goes, download a taskiller or task manager from the market, also make sure that your gps is off, bluetooth and wifi is off. Those are major suckers of the battery. The sprint stores dont carry extra batteries for this phone unless it was a 30 day return, in which case that battery was still new. There is another website that you can find ALOT of answers to your questions. . They have instructions on how to root your phone, customizations, bootscreen logos, animations. Amongst other things. Sign up on their forum, theres tons of things to read. Any other questions dont hesitate to ask me.

**RickMG** · 05-15-2010, 12:08 PM

Thank you again. I walked into Best Buy a few minutes ago since I have their insurance and told them the battery went from 100% to 30% in 6 1/2 hours while I slept. They took a new one out of a new box (with phone) and handed it to me in exchange for the other one. So now, at least, I'll have some comparisson. This girl there looked at my phone and 1st thing she said was that she saw I had the Advanced Task Killer. What amazes me is how many programs run in the background and I haven't the slightest idea of how to stop them. The worst is Nuance, and I never use it. It's on as soon as I kill it and it seems I can't delete it. By the way, when I hold down the volume down, send and end keys together all I get is the popup that asks if I want to power down or silent the phone. Thanks again for everything.

**powderhound2** · 05-15-2010, 12:13 PM

Downloaded, and installed update program, and followed all instructions to the point where you click the button to start the actual upgrade. The progress bar on my computer shows up, but in the progress bar, it immediately upon starting the install shows, "Elapsed time : 4sec....0%". This has been showing now for over 10min, without changing. Just wondering if i need restart the install process, and whether I'm going to mess the phone up by doing so, or if I'm not being patient enough and it's actually doing what it's supposed to. Any help appreciated. Thanks!

**LSanna1488** · 05-15-2010, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by RickMG

Thank you again. I walked into Best Buy a few minutes ago since I have their insurance and told them the battery went from 100% to 30% in 6 1/2 hours while I slept. They took a new one out of a new box (with phone) and handed it to me in exchange for the other one. So now, at least, I'll have some comparisson. This girl there looked at my phone and 1st thing she said was that she saw I had the Advanced Task Killer. What amazes me is how many programs run in the background and I haven't the slightest idea of how to stop them. The worst is Nuance, and I never use it. It's on as soon as I kill it and it seems I can't delete it. By the way, when I hold down the volume down, send and end keys together all I get is the popup that asks if I want to power down or silent the phone. Thanks again for everything.

You need to make sure that the end key is the last one pressed. Then hold all 3 down until the screen comes on...BTW you need to do this while the phone is already OFF. Sorry I didnt specify. After the screen starts let the buttons go. the next screen will be the recovery screen. Click on system, then back up, then the home button, and it will save your backup to your sd card. Let me know if this helps, or if you have any problems or questions

**LSanna1488** · 05-15-2010, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by powderhound2

Downloaded, and installed update program, and followed all instructions to the point where you click the button to start the actual upgrade. The progress bar on my computer shows up, but in the progress bar, it immediately upon starting the install shows, "Elapsed time : 4sec....0%". This has been showing now for over 10min, without changing. Just wondering if i need restart the install process, and whether I'm going to mess the phone up by doing so, or if I'm not being patient enough and it's actually doing what it's supposed to. Any help appreciated. Thanks!

I would try shutting down computer and phone. Then reboot both, and ONLY open the SWUpdater on your computer. Let the drivers install and try the process again.

Go to they have excellent instructions and options to get your moment running nice.

**RBrown9180** · 05-15-2010, 08:26 PM

Lsanna-where are you located? im a union ironworker as well, out of Atlantic city, nj

**LSanna1488** · 05-15-2010, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by unvme9180

Lsanna-where are you located? im a union ironworker as well, out of Atlantic city, nj

397 out of Tampa Florida

**RBrown9180** · 05-15-2010, 09:01 PM

i have a friend out of 405 in Philly who worked out of Orlandos hall for a stint. he liked it since there was no tax.

**LSanna1488** · 05-15-2010, 09:15 PM

No tax where? In Orlando?

You guys workin up there? Need a boomer lol

**RBrown9180** · 05-15-2010, 10:56 PM

thought he said there was no state tax in Fl or something along those lines. we are working, but its sloooooooooooooow. we have a couple of good size projects that are being held up by paperwork. hoping that changes soon.

**LSanna1488** · 05-15-2010, 11:12 PM

Sent you a pm. Lets keep the forum on topic. And hes right there is no State tax here.

**RickMG** · 05-16-2010, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by LSanna1488

You need to make sure that the end key is the last one pressed. Then hold all 3 down until the screen comes on...BTW you need to do this while the phone is already OFF. Sorry I didnt specify. After the screen starts let the buttons go. the next screen will be the recovery screen. Click on system, then back up, then the home button, and it will save your backup to your sd card. Let me know if this helps, or if you have any problems or questions

Just an update. Sorry, still couldn't get that to work on either my Moment with 2.1 or my wife's with 1.5. Neither of ours is rooted if that makes a difference. That's okay. I would like to back hers up so she will want the update but she doesn't want to go through what I've gone through. With the new battery my phone stayed at 100% all night, so I'm a happy camper. Thank you for all your unselfish help you are giving me and everyone else here. I hope people appreciate what a treasure it is to have someone like you on the board.

**LSanna1488** · 05-16-2010, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by RickMG

Just an update. Sorry, still couldn't get that to work on either my Moment with 2.1 or my wife's with 1.5. Neither of ours is rooted if that makes a difference. That's okay. I would like to back hers up so she will want the update but she doesn't want to go through what I've gone through. With the new battery my phone stayed at 100% all night, so I'm a happy camper. Thank you for all your unselfish help you are giving me and everyone else here. I hope people appreciate what a treasure it is to have someone like you on the board.

If you would be more comfortable going into a sprint store to have them do it.
Tell them you want a system backup from recovery. If they look at you dumbfoundedly. Just walk out.
Or you can do some reading without actually doing anything to your phone at . They have the best instructions in detail for anything you want to do with your phone. Root, custom roms, deleting bloatware like Bejeweled Demo. Not just removing it from the home screen, im talking off the phone permanently. Adding live wallpaper. Unlocking protected apps in the market.Etc etc..

**SandersJC1964** · 05-16-2010, 12:01 PM

I've mentioned this before in other forums, but is it just me, or is the video capture quality gotten much worse with the 2.1 update? No matter which setting I use, it's not good, and in fact is much worse using the High setting than the Low.

**Andyvan** · 05-16-2010, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by LSanna1488

I feel your loss. Unfortunately My Backup Pro only backs up data and apps. What you needed to do was to boot into recovery, by holding down... "vol down, send, and end keys" selecting system then backup. This makes a COMPLETE backup of your entire system. Settings and such as well. Im not sure if there is a app or program that does what NV Backup does for the Android. If everything was on your sd card it will still be there, youll just have to find the program or app to open it again. And as far as your paid apps go, all you should have to do is to reinstall them. If it doesnt work email the developers of the apps and they should let you redownload for free

Okay, I've booted up into the "Android system recovery <2e>". I see four options:

reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition

None of those sound like "system" or "backup".

Please be a little more explicit about which options to choose.

**LSanna1488** · 05-16-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Andyvan92117

Okay, I've booted up into the "Android system recovery <2e>". I see four options:

reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition

None of those sound like "system" or "backup".

Please be a little more explicit about which options to choose.

You need to have this recovery installed for you to be able to backup system or data

**Andyvan** · 05-16-2010, 03:39 PM

Thanks, I was wondering if you were assuming non-standard firmware. It wasn't obvious from your post.

**LSanna1488** · 05-16-2010, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Andyvan92117

Thanks, I was wondering if you were assuming non-standard firmware. It wasn't obvious from your post.

My sincere apologies. Ive been running SDX firmware and downloads since I get the phone. Was like stock to me.

Yes the backups for both system and data can only be performed from SDX-Developers downloads. Just download the recovery 3.0.8, and flash it just the same as you did the new 2.1 DE03 firmware. Only takes 4 seconds after clicking start software download. Then you can boot into recovery and do the backups.

**rbaucom** · 05-17-2010, 11:38 AM

I updated mine and my wife moment to the official 2.1 update. We are both experiencing the evdo lockup now. As in 10 minutes internet usage and need to reboot. I have noticed that the signal bar strength fluctuates wildly, based on CPU usage.
There needs to be a toggle that can force close the radio thread. Similar to the PRL update. At this point I will reflash the rom to a new one if anyone who had major evdo problems tell me what rom they used. Please advise!