Is it true? Did Sprint turn the epic into a paperweight for us?

**jmiller0519** · 01-09-2012, 11:04 PM

Hey guys, I haven't been on or done squat with my epic for a while, but lately my what was once super stable phone has been buggy. I thought I'd swing on by pick up a new root, flash to stock etc.

What I hadn't realized was the gingerbread news. WTF happened? So sprint pushed an update that effectively makes our phones suck royally from what I'm reading? At this point is my best bet to just go to whatever root I was running of EC05 and get that all back up the way it was? It seems like there aren't any good answers. I considered going to stock, updating OTA and then rooting that or even just leaving it, but sounds like that's asking for instability.

What's the consensus?

**Skunkape60** · 01-10-2012, 07:00 AM

Loaded clean gb ROM on my daughters epic and have never had an issue with anything.

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**cerobles1** · 01-10-2012, 07:44 AM

I'm running Thunderhawk 3.3, and the black out 1.1 theme. Still running on 25 % of my battery left, and my Battery Use screen says my phone has been on for 1D 7hrs 15 min. That's more than 30 hrs and still havr a quater of my battery left for the day. U should try a Custom ROM based off EI22. That's ur best bet

**jmuru** · 01-10-2012, 09:29 AM

Any custom GB ROM won't give you any problems. The stock GB does have a few bugs, but if you know how to root and flash a ROM, you get past those in about 15 minutes flat.

RandomROM, legendary, CleanGB are all excellent choices.

**Paul627g** · 01-10-2012, 09:39 AM

I would take the above suggestions and run with them... Just like Eclair or Froyo, GB custom ROMs will normally resolve any left behind headaches from Sammy & Sprint.

**Zeinzu** · 01-10-2012, 10:18 AM

Official cm7 > all.

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**jmuru** · 01-10-2012, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Zeinzu

Official cm7 > all.

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Agreed. It's what I'm running and I have no intention of running anything else in the near future. But, I think for first-timers, I'd stick to something more familiar and based off Touchwiz, and transition to CM later.

**adlebo** · 01-10-2012, 01:12 PM

I'm confused. I tried many roms including mostly stock, legendary, & ics something... but experienced random reboots even while just speaking on the phone. That made me think it was the roms fault. So I went back to stock but I'm still having rebooting issues. So is there any rom that's really stable? Cause I'm sick and tired of going back and forth.

**ratsttam** · 01-10-2012, 01:22 PM

I've found the stock GB to work pretty well compared to stock Froyo. It did introduce some issues such as the gps locking itself out after about 15 min, but that's not anything that wasn't fixed by the devs. Cyanogen works wonderfully on it, and it felt like a brand new phone.

**adlebo** · 01-10-2012, 02:12 PM

Do you have a link to cyanogen? I cant find it in the index of roms. I might try that.

**ratsttam** · 01-10-2012, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by adlebo

Do you have a link to cyanogen? I cant find it in the index of roms. I might try that.

cyanogenmod.com

Keep in mind, that you will NEED ODIN to go back to stock OR a non MTD based rom. Choose wisely.

**adlebo** · 01-10-2012, 02:52 PM

True but in the past I needed to odin back to stock from any rom that wasn't RFS. It's a pity we don't have yet the odin file of gingerbread. It would make things quicker.

**Zeinzu** · 01-10-2012, 04:06 PM

Not just that but should you return to stock or bml rom you need to have repartition checked in odin when you flash stock.

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**jmuru** · 01-10-2012, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by adlebo

I'm confused. I tried many roms including mostly stock, legendary, & ics something... but experienced random reboots even while just speaking on the phone. That made me think it was the roms fault. So I went back to stock but I'm still having rebooting issues. So is there any rom that's really stable? Cause I'm sick and tired of going back and forth.

Random reboots stopped happening about a month ago. It was due to a RAM leak, but any of the current ROMs have it fixed, so you can flash any of the ones you tried and it should no longer reboot. Go with legendary or CleanGB if you want stability.

**adlebo** · 01-10-2012, 05:14 PM

If I go back to a rom, is there a way that I can put on back the touchwiz launcher? (call me crazy, but I prefer it rather than the "vanilla" ones)

**kitchin** · 01-12-2012, 08:05 AM

I'd recommend either Clean GB or Cyanogenmod, worked wonderfully. I live in Charlotte 4G was important and have stayed with Clean GB, but Cyanogenmod works wonders

**adjmcloon#IM** · 01-12-2012, 10:01 PM

+1 on CleanGB. I am running CleanGB MTD, no problems. Works great! No force closes, good battery life, everything works!

**dchawk81** · 01-13-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by adlebo

If I go back to a rom, is there a way that I can put on back the touchwiz launcher? (call me crazy, but I prefer it rather than the "vanilla" ones)

CleanGB has a flashable Touchwiz zip in the posts for it over on XDA.

Sent from my hoe. Forgive the typoes; it's an Epic.

**Skunkape60** · 01-15-2012, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by dchawk81

CleanGB has a flashable Touchwiz zip in the posts for it over on XDA.

Sent from my hoe. Forgive the typoes; it's an Epic.

My daughters phone has had cleangb since it was released and according to her it has never locked up or rebooted since i installed it several months ago.

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**HAAS599** · 01-15-2012, 07:50 AM

CleanGB > CM7 at the moment. CM7 does not support audio out through USB.

**Zeinzu** · 01-15-2012, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by HAAS599

CleanGB > CM7 at the moment. CM7 does not support audio out through USB.

For you. I don't use audio through usb so I'll take cm7's performance, battery, and better overall coding and features. Not knocking you just saying not everyone needs the same things.

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**jmiller0519** · 01-16-2012, 02:47 PM

Thanks for all the input guys. Been on vacation the last week so I just got my phone back to a clean froyo ACS Syndicate ROM I had from before so it would at least function normally for now.

I think I'll check into going to gingerbread with Cyanogen mod. I'm not ready to change phones yet, although I am rather disappointed with Sprint's lack of support for the Epic. My "4g" speeds are non existent, 3g sucks, GPS is next to useless half the time. But we'll see what GB and Cyanogenmod do for me.

I just want stability. decent battery, GPS, wireless tethering that doesn't cost me $20 a month (eff you sprint!) and decent data coverage so I can surf relatively quickly.

**SamsungSucks** · 01-18-2012, 10:46 AM

I am on CM7 and would not recommend this to some one that just wants their phone to work. This is only at RC0 and has nightly updates. I personally like doing this.

If you want something stable go with the GB Stockish/mtd ROM on xda.

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**jmiller0519** · 01-18-2012, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by SamsungSucks

I am on CM7 and would not recommend this to some one that just wants their phone to work. This is only at RC0 and has nightly updates. I personally like doing this.

If you want something stable go with the GB Stockish/mtd ROM on xda.

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Oh cool. Thanks for the input.

Yeah at this point I've had my fun with rootingand roms and all the fun of android, but I'm beginning to wonder if some of my network issues and data issues have anything to do with all my playing around. I love what rooting does as far as actually opening up the usabilty of my phone but at the tradeoffs of some of the instabilities it gets annoying.

Maybe it's the epic and the nonexistant support from Sprint and Samsung, I'm not sure. Definitely looking into a change though.

**jmiller0519** · 01-18-2012, 10:06 PM

Ok really dumb question and I apologize in advance because I'm sure if I search harder it's answered.

I haven't used GB yet I'm about to try it. What can I do to just root it? No kernal no rom just root access so I can delete some bloatware (if I can remember how) and install an app to tether it.

Links??