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    Default Upgrade from Epic 4G to what??

    I'm now eligible for the upgrade at Sprint and wonder what people might suggest about upgrading from a rooted Epic 4G to something else. I don't care about a physical keyboard (I thought I needed to keep one when buying the Epic 4G). My phone seems pretty solid after rooting, so I don't have any major gripes with the phone. That said, battery life is not so great (I'm using Juice Defender to help on that score, with some success)
    I've read here that the Nexus S is a good phone, and that Nexus is first in line for updates, etc. How does the Epic 4G Touch stack up? Basically, a good performing phone with better battery life, and a solid GPS.
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    Touch choice...

    If your looking for a bit longer support, I would say the Epic Touch since its newer and it does perform very well...

    I prefer the NS4G but thats just me, but if I had to pick again going from the Epic 4g right now I would really have a hard time deciding to go NS4G or the Epic Touch 4g....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul627g View Post
    Touch choice...

    If your looking for a bit longer support, I would say the Epic Touch since its newer and it does perform very well...

    I prefer the NS4G but thats just me, but if I had to pick again going from the Epic 4g right now I would really have a hard time deciding to go NS4G or the Epic Touch 4g....
    Thanks Paul. Do either of these need to get rooted to work right, or will they both perform well stock? (I rooted the Epic 4G, but almost bricked it in the process. It works fine now, but I'd have to re-learn rooting...)
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    Both are well capable of working fine minus root. The NS4G is more friendly I would say for rooting but I have heard the process used for the Epic Touch is also very simple too.....
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    With quad core phones just starting to emerge I would hold onto your upgrade till they get released. The Epic isn't a bad device and with cm9 I'm sure you could hold out another 2-3 months.

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    I would hold out a few months. Sprint is getting ready to have a bunch of new phones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeinzu View Post
    With quad core phones just starting to emerge I would hold onto your upgrade till they get released. The Epic isn't a bad device and with cm9 I'm sure you could hold out another 2-3 months.
    Thanks, I hadn't considered looking at what phones might be in the pipeline. I'm rooted with ACS ICS v5 now, with the GPS Fix. What's cm9 and do you know how it differs from my current setup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    I would hold out a few months. Sprint is getting ready to have a bunch of new phones.
    Thanks Jamie, I may wind up doing just that. Any ideas on what phones are on the way?
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    Or you may want to consider cleanGB rom... I'm on it and love it. It is very stable, has pretty good battery life, and if you don't like it you can flash cm9.

    Here's the thing though, both are MTD, meaning more space for apps and such... but, if you want to go back to stock EL30 or any other BML rom you must ODIN and use the included PIT file to repartition back to original. When I flashed an MTD rom first time I *think* I had to do it twice because the first time CM recovery just repartitioned the phone.

    After repartitioning you can flash either CM9(a5 is latest I think) or cleanGB(1.1.2 - which is what I prefer). I also installed TW4.5 launcher using manager, and I love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheburashka View Post
    Or you may want to consider cleanGB rom... I'm on it and love it. It is very stable, has pretty good battery life, and if you don't like it you can flash cm9.

    Here's the thing though, both are MTD, meaning more space for apps and such... but, if you want to go back to stock EL30 or any other BML rom you must ODIN and use the included PIT file to repartition back to original. When I flashed an MTD rom first time I *think* I had to do it twice because the first time CM recovery just repartitioned the phone.

    After repartitioning you can flash either CM9(a5 is latest I think) or cleanGB(1.1.2 - which is what I prefer). I also installed TW4.5 launcher using manager, and I love it!
    I've read a bit about going the MTD route, but since I nearly toasted my Epic 4G with a relatively easy root, I don't think that more involved change is in my future.

    If I decide to get a new phone now - either the Nexus S or the Epic Touch - how difficult would it be to get all of my apps, images, etc. onto the new phone from the old Epic 4G? Would Titanium be of any use if the new phone is not rooted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgilbertsen View Post
    I've read a bit about going the MTD route, but since I nearly toasted my Epic 4G with a relatively easy root, I don't think that more involved change is in my future.

    If I decide to get a new phone now - either the Nexus S or the Epic Touch - how difficult would it be to get all of my apps, images, etc. onto the new phone from the old Epic 4G? Would Titanium be of any use if the new phone is not rooted?
    Images, etc.. on your sdacard is an easy transfer... Move them to your computer and then to the new device....

    As far as apps... You can restore those from the Market online.... Use the Market from your home computer and it will show you all the apps you had installed on your previous device... Select those you want and have them redownloaded to the new device...

    Titanium will be of no use without root.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul627g View Post
    Images, etc.. on your sdacard is an easy transfer... Move them to your computer and then to the new device....

    As far as apps... You can restore those from the Market online.... Use the Market from your home computer and it will show you all the apps you had installed on your previous device... Select those you want and have them redownloaded to the new device...

    Titanium will be of no use without root.
    Thanks Paul, sounds pretty straightforward.

    I've been doing a bit of searching for upcoming phones, and it sounds like there will likely be some incredible improvements vs current phones. I wish I hadn't started looking - now I'll be checking in here way too often...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgilbertsen View Post
    Thanks Paul, sounds pretty straightforward.

    I've been doing a bit of searching for upcoming phones, and it sounds like there will likely be some incredible improvements vs current phones. I wish I hadn't started looking - now I'll be checking in here way too often...
    That's good news for us.. Keep checking AC's main blog page... Always good stuff on there about upcoming devices/rumors. etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul627g View Post
    That's good news for us.. Keep checking AC's main blog page... Always good stuff on there about upcoming devices/rumors. etc....
    Thanks? No, I mean thanks! I'll check it out.
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    Cm9 is Android 4.0.3 with tweaks. And it's up and running on the Epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeinzu View Post
    Cm9 is Android 4.0.3 with tweaks. And it's up and running on the Epic.
    I haven't been paying attention for the last couple of months - are there big improvements over GB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgilbertsen View Post
    I haven't been paying attention for the last couple of months - are there big improvements over GB?
    I've been running it since Alpha2, they are on Alpha5 of it now. It's as close to what the Galaxy Nexus runs native as you can get

    With all its little quirks on the Epic, I will not go back to the factory OS for anything now. It runs so fast, so smooth, and gets better as the CM9 teams (both upstream for all devices, and the CM9 Epic specific) fix bugs and tweak things. A little lacking in battery life, but it's not out of line from the FroYo builds.

    Sprint is getting a LOT of new devices in the next few months, the Galaxy Nexus being one of them. They are ramping up LTE deployment in quite a few cities, so that's a reason to NOT get a non-lte based phone at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratsttam View Post
    I've been running it since Alpha2, they are on Alpha5 of it now. It's as close to what the Galaxy Nexus runs native as you can get

    With all its little quirks on the Epic, I will not go back to the factory OS for anything now. It runs so fast, so smooth, and gets better as the CM9 teams (both upstream for all devices, and the CM9 Epic specific) fix bugs and tweak things. A little lacking in battery life, but it's not out of line from the FroYo builds.

    Sprint is getting a LOT of new devices in the next few months, the Galaxy Nexus being one of them. They are ramping up LTE deployment in quite a few cities, so that's a reason to NOT get a non-lte based phone at this point.
    That makes a lot of sense. I think I'll be waiting a bit to see what happens in the next few months. As far as CM9, I don't know much about it. I have ACS ICS v5 now, and it seems stable. I will read what I can about CM9, and it if doesn't sound too difficult, I may try it out. My skills are limited...
    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgilbertsen View Post
    That makes a lot of sense. I think I'll be waiting a bit to see what happens in the next few months. As far as CM9, I don't know much about it. I have ACS ICS v5 now, and it seems stable. I will read what I can about CM9, and it if doesn't sound too difficult, I may try it out. My skills are limited...
    Thanks.
    Here's a bit more reading on the CM9 (If you were able to install ACS, you're more than 1/2 way there. This is the REAL ICS, You can also find information on CM7 (Gingerbread).



    About the LTE Rollout


    And a bit of reading about the list (about 10 !!) of new Sprint phones. This is for JUST Google Wallet(!) phones. And we know the G-Nexus is coming (Sprint has a giveaway going on. You'll have to find that one yourself )
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    Thanks! This'll keep me busy reading for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    I would hold out a few months. Sprint is getting ready to have a bunch of new phones.
    Totally agree. Releases have been slow the last few months but will now heat up with MWC and CTIA announcements. Roll outs will take longer than we want but by Q3 there will be exciting new phones on all carriers. I've been sitting on an upgrade since October which is very atypical. The epic is a good phone, especially on a custom rom, to hold onto for a few months. Got my eye on the HTC One X now. Had it on Galaxy Nexus but by the time it gets to Sprint it will be yesterdays news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swebb View Post
    Totally agree. Releases have been slow the last few months but will now heat up with MWC and CTIA announcements. Roll outs will take longer than we want but by Q3 there will be exciting new phones on all carriers. I've been sitting on an upgrade since October which is very atypical. The epic is a good phone, especially on a custom rom, to hold onto for a few months. Got my eye on the HTC One X now. Had it on Galaxy Nexus but by the time it gets to Sprint it will be yesterdays news.
    I think that's the smart thing to do. I really don't like changing phones too often, unless there is a real problem with it, and the Epic now does a fine job of most things that I need, since rooting it. Thanks
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    I just bought an Epic 4g touch online for around $325.00. Not too bad. Compared to $500.00 brand new. I plan to sell my epic 4g for around 125-150. Plus since I am not getting rid of my 2 year upgrade, I can still upgrade to LTE phones when they come out in August. Plus I dont see LTE coming to my area until next year.
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    Is anyone out there disappointed with the lack of good smartphones with a full keyboard? The best I have seen thus far is the AT&T Samsung Captivate Glide. However, the keyboard lacks a dedicated number row and there is no improvement in the screen size and resolution over the Epic 4G. I do like the dual core processor and the 8GB (5GB available) internal storage plus the SD card option. Iím always bumping up against the Epic 4Gís skimpy internal storage. Iím worried that physical keyboards will just go away or be relegated to low end phones for kids that text. The Motorola Droid 4 screen was pretty disappointing and Iím not willing to give up the super AMOLED Samsung screens. Iím pretty excited about the Galaxy Note since maybe the screen size will allow for a virtual keyboard that will still enable some use of the remaining screen to actually do some real work while typing. Of course, being a nerd, I think a Galaxy Note with a slider full keyboard would be brilliant. I get to upgrade in May and am hoping that Sprint gets some new Samsung phones soon. I really like the unlimited data plan and donít want to switch carriers. I just donít trust Verizonís network reliability (ironic given their ad campaign) these days and AT&T just hoses people with their data plans and overage charges. Anybody see anything promising out there that I might have missed?
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    rattsam, thanks for the update on LTE, I pushed the button!
    I'm in Indy, have been paying for 4g service since September, 2010 and awaiting the rollout, so many delays and reasons, I quit reading or caring since I'm now paying the surcharge for unlimited data, everyone else's, whatever. Still like Sprint but ditched my Epic because it never ran correctly without custom roms due to Samsung's lack of updates.

    I went with the Nexus S 4g, love this phone, no Sprint garbage, fast, efficient, etc. I have ran it rooted and rommed as well as stock and it performs magnificantly. I will never have another Android phone unless it is
    Google's.

    So in my case, with 6 phones lines, 5 are elgible for upgrades. We are setting on them waiting for the LTE rollout which will now hit Indy according to this article this year. If we want to upgrade, we buy off Ebay or
    Craigs List, pay a little more than 2 year contract price, but most importantly, will not be stuck with 2 year old
    phone when LTE compatibility is needed.

    So if you are bored, its a good route, just check the seller closely. I sell many phones this way and there are many good sellers out there.
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