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    Default Somewhat Unfavorable ZDNET Review

    The title will get you but honestly, the thing that bothers me in this review is the issue pointed out with the 4 bottom buttons now working well and the issues with GPS....and they show an EVO side by side in GPS for comparison.

    Review can be found at:

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    The man loves his kickstand. I use my wallet to prop my phone up or, call me crazy, sometimes I just hold it. Its very hard to do but with enough practice it is possible.
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    I guess the most disconcerting issues are the ongoing reports of issues with the capacitive buttons and someone who actually shows the GPS not working favorably.

    I wonder if SPRINT NAV might work better that Google maps?:
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    who cares.. have you seen the EVO forum.. many guys there who like the EVO better than EPIC
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    I think everyone is paranoid about Samsung GPS right now. I doubt there is a problem with the GPS on the Epic.

    This guy said he used to love qwerty keyboards but after getting used to the touch keyboard on the EVO, he likes touchscreen keyboards now. Maybe he just needs to get used to the capacitive buttons and he will start liking them too. This review doesn't have me second guessing anything.
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    I'm hopefully going to check out an advocates phone today so I can see for myself on both items.

    My real time experience is what I'll trust
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    do you think anyone would make a screen protector like with the button icons painted on for the button area?
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    Video crashes whatever browser Im using. But I guess that is what happens when you have an EVO lover review an EPIC. I bet EVO bashing would occur if an EPIC lover reviewed an EVO. Biased reviewers are bad juju.

    Quick question, are they using the google GPS or sprint nav? I use sprint nav primarily with google maps as a traffic monitor. If its google gps then I have no worries as I do not use that.
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    I am not understanding this...


    Specifications
    Specifications for the Samsung Epic 4G include the following:

    •Android 2.1 with Samsung Touchwiz 3.0 experience
    •Cortex A8 Hummingbird, 1GHz processor
    •Quad-band GSM and dual-band 3G (1700/2100 MHz)
    •4 inch WVGA (480×800) capacitive Super AMOLED touch display
    •Integrated 1GB flash memory and microSD card (16GB included)
    •5 megapixel camera with flash
    •VGA front facing camera
    •Dedicated, touch-sensitive Home, Menu, Back and Search areas
    •Proximity sensor, light sensor and digital compass
    •Integrated GPS
    •Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n)
    •Bluetooth 3.0
    •1500 mAh battery
    •3.5 mm headset jack
    •Dimensions: 4.9 x 2.54 x 0.56 inches and 5.46 ounces

    That immediately makes me question his knowledge... because that would indicate that the Epic was a World phone.

    He probably meant quad band CDMA
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    Then he makes this comment:

    The QWERTY keyboard also dominates the front when the display is slid from left to right (up in landscape orientation). This is probably the BEST hardware QWERTY keyboard since the HTC HD2 and keyboard fans are going to love it.

    Ummm, when did the HD2 get a hardware keyboard?
    Its obvious, this dude has a problem focusing.... perhaps he meant Touch Pro 2...
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    Quote Originally Posted by phenderson View Post
    I am not understanding this...


    Specifications
    Specifications for the Samsung Epic 4G include the following:

    •Android 2.1 with Samsung Touchwiz 3.0 experience
    •Cortex A8 Hummingbird, 1GHz processor
    •Quad-band GSM and dual-band 3G (1700/2100 MHz)
    •4 inch WVGA (480×800) capacitive Super AMOLED touch display
    •Integrated 1GB flash memory and microSD card (16GB included)
    •5 megapixel camera with flash
    •VGA front facing camera
    •Dedicated, touch-sensitive Home, Menu, Back and Search areas
    •Proximity sensor, light sensor and digital compass
    •Integrated GPS
    •Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n)
    •Bluetooth 3.0
    •1500 mAh battery
    •3.5 mm headset jack
    •Dimensions: 4.9 x 2.54 x 0.56 inches and 5.46 ounces

    That immediately makes me question his knowledge... because that would indicate that the Epic was a World phone.

    He probably meant quad band CDMA
    Someone probably copy/pasted one of the vibrants or captivates specs and added dimentions of epic and ROM/sdcard and forgot antenna. It is not a world phone, has no spot for a sim card and there is not such thing as quad band CDMA, just dual band (800/1900).

    Want correct phone stats, this place is generally spot on with that info, but they do have the wrong ROM.

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    He also said the phone is 249.99 with $50 rebate. This guy its not very god at details lol
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    I've been seeing a lot of reviews with copy-pasted BS from the other Galaxy S phones. Any time I see anything like that, I disregard the review entirely, whether it's favorable or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vader4633 View Post
    do you think anyone would make a screen protector like with the button icons painted on for the button area?
    Not necessary. These reviewers keep missing the fact that the capacitive backlit buttons can be set to stay on with the screen. It's in the settings. They just haven't looked for it.
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    Seeing the vibrant and crisp colors of the Epic next to the pink hued Evo in the video, reaffirms that the Epic is the right phone for me.
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    He's gone back and fixed the GSM cut-and-paste error. Now, my point of contention:

    "The EVO 4G 4.3″ display is large and presents more, especially when web browsing. "

    It's the same resolution; how does the EVO display present more information? It has bigger pixels, not more of them.

    Dunce. Do none of these websites employ editors anymore? Part time teenage bloggers I could understand, but ZDNet used to actually sell print magazines. Did they fire everyone?

    --Qfg
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    Thank you for letting me know that I do not need to waste my time reading this review.
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    Or he could just be a dope...
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    It's amazing to me how these so called "professionals" so often post erroneous and misleading information. It makes me wonder if any of these people do any real research before putting their names in front of their articles. I think every first impression or unboxing review I've read or viewed missed the point about being able to adjust the backlighting of the capacitive buttions. I remember reading about this feature when someone pointed it out when the US Galaxy S series were first introduced by Samsung about a month or two ago. I think Engadget was the first to recognize it and make a correction to their review about. Even so, reviewers are still missing it and getting it wrong. As for Zdnet, the misleading info about the GSM radio and the HD2 keyboard just reaffirms my contention that these guys are either lazy or just plain incompetent. I read these posts because I'm currently in the market to get a new phone...as it is, I'm currently undecided. But sifting through all this misinformation is tiresome. I just wish one of these "professionals" would put together a comprehensive, FACTUAL review that people can rely on. Maybe I'm asking too much...but I don't think so... Is it too much to expect a reviewer to know to turn on AGPS before testing? Seriously...how hard is it to install a GPS signal app that can definitively test the GPS performance of this thing? You'd think with all the speculation going on about this, someone could have done it by now. If someone is willing to give me a review phone, I'm sure I could put together a much better review than every one else has so far... You wouldn't even have to pay me!!! D@mn!!! <End Rant>
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    Well....

    I did just speak with the advocate at my local friendly Corporate store.

    He hasn't tried the GPS yet but will do so tonight on his way home.

    His one gripe with the phone....even when lit, having to hit the capacitive buttons numerous times to get them to register.

    Hopefully I can try it for myself tomorrow when he has more time.
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    WOW, what a fanboy! Evo better in sunlight? Haven't we gone over this yet? There were a few tests done in the sunlight on youtube and the Super AMOLED display came out on top every time (Evo, of course, came last among the super smartphones). This guy's a joke of a reviewer. A kickstand?! A KICKSTAND?! HE can't just prop up his phone on something? Really? OMG, no Froyo for the Epic. World's going to end! Umm, we're getting it in a month or so anyways? Doesn't the Epic support micro usb to hdmi anyways? Hidden Backlit buttons: You have GOT to be kidding me. He obviously hasn't read all the other reviews.

    Conclusion: This guy's a joke that so bad, even a five year old can out review him. His information is inaccurate in several areas and it just ticks me off when these so-called professionals can't even do a simple review right. <end rant>
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinman02 View Post
    I think every first impression or unboxing review I've read or viewed missed the point about being able to adjust the backlighting of the capacitive buttions. I remember reading about this feature when someone pointed it out when the US Galaxy S series were first introduced by Samsung about a month or two ago.
    Are you saying this works for the Captivate? My roommate with AT&T just got one and I'd like to help him out with this feature, but the setting isn't in the same place as where people are saying it is on the Epic (since the Epic's setting is with the keyboard settings).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cr3amy View Post
    Are you saying this works for the Captivate? My roommate with AT&T just got one and I'd like to help him out with this feature, but the setting isn't in the same place as for the Epic (since the Epic's setting is with the keyboard settings).
    I too haven't gotten a clear answer for where the settings are to adjust the capacitative button backlight. I would like to know as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cr3amy View Post
    Are you saying this works for the Captivate? My roommate with AT&T just got one and I'd like to help him out with this feature, but the setting isn't in the same place as where people are saying it is on the Epic (since the Epic's setting is with the keyboard settings).
    I'm talking about the Epic, when it was introduced next to all four US Galaxy S phones. Someone had complained about the backlight going off too soon, then someone pointed out that it could be adjusted. I haven't been paying attention to the Captivate, but aren't the buttons painted or etched on that model?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinman02 View Post
    I'm talking about the Epic, when it was introduced next to all four US Galaxy S phones. Someone had complained about the backlight going off too soon, then someone pointed out that it could be adjusted. I haven't been paying attention to the Captivate, but aren't the buttons painted or etched on that model?
    Oh, they mean timer adjusting. We found that out recently. We were wondering about dimming or brightening the capacitative buttons.

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