So the concensus is that TouchWiz can be disabled?

**ywenz** · 08-31-2010, 04:07 PM

After watching that youtube clip on disabling the touchwiz launcher. It looks like you CAN INDEED run the vanilla android skin on the Epic?

Why the hell none of the reviewers brought up this point yet all of them complained about TouchWiz?

**ConceptVBS** · 08-31-2010, 04:39 PM

Because they are ignorant. Simple as that.

Now do you trust these "reviewers"?

**caliskimmer** · 08-31-2010, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by ConceptVBS

Because they are ignorant. Simple as that.

Now do you trust these "reviewers"?

I trust you more than those reviewers.

**ywenz** · 08-31-2010, 04:43 PM

yeah I guess that's what you get when you have "bloggers" do product reviews.

A bunch of hacks.

These experts of nothing, simple consumers are not suitable for product reviews requiring moderate technical knowledge.

**caliskimmer** · 08-31-2010, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by booggerg

yeah I guess that's what you get when you have "bloggers" do product reviews.

A bunch of hacks.

These experts of nothing, simple consumers are not suitable for product reviews requiring moderate technical knowledge.

Why don't the companies ask someone from the forums to do it? I know Phil does a review and his are excellent, but besides Phonedog and AndroidCentral, the reviews seem to be garbage (with the exception of Engadget that is only adequate).

**ywenz** · 08-31-2010, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by caliskimmer

Why don't the companies ask someone from the forums to do it? I know Phil does a review and his are excellent, but besides Phonedog and AndroidCentral, the reviews seem to be garbage (with the exception of Engadget that is only adequate).

Did any of them reveal/discover this important fact of this phone? or did they just do stupid unboxing segments(talking about the fancy ear buds), and dedicate half a paragraph on the USB door?

**Cory Streater** · 08-31-2010, 05:07 PM

For the record, Phil stated over and over that you could use the launcher of your choice, and that he didn't understand why people get so upset over Touchwiz.

**caliskimmer** · 08-31-2010, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cory Streater

For the record, Phil stated over and over that you could use the launcher of your choice, and that he didn't understand why people get so upset over Touchwiz.

I agree with him. Not only is Touchwiz not that big of a problem, but he did state that you can change the launcher to another one.

**ywenz** · 08-31-2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by caliskimmer

I agree with him. Not only is Touchwiz not that big of a problem, but he did state that you can change the launcher to another one.

I see. .then he be a competent reviewer.

From all of the reviews out there the pictured painted on the industry was why would these manufactures lock you into their custom skin.. and that vanilla android would be awesome on the Epic 4G... what a joke

**aristarchus** · 08-31-2010, 05:15 PM

I just followed the directions on mine and disabled Touchwiz. Honestly, I don't think touchwiz is that bad at all, but it is really, really easy to disable it following the instructions in the video.

**Q-fugee** · 08-31-2010, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Cory Streater

For the record, Phil stated over and over that you could use the launcher of your choice, and that he didn't understand why people get so upset over Touchwiz.

Here is/was the confusion: at the time of the pre-release review, the method of replacing TouchWiz was unclear:

1) Run launcher of your choice. Yes, it replaces or runs on top of Touchwiz, but TW is still running in the background. This is a system hog on slower handhelds and no one knew if it'd be a problem on the Epic.

2) Kill TW and change the default. Like in the posted video (thank you for the link). It was unclear if that method was available on the pre-release demo units that journalists got their hands on.

What is still unclear from the posted video is whether or not this method sticks after a reboot, and if it will still be around after the first update. Also still unclear is if we'll need root to remove TW or make the configuration change survive a reboot.

Still, very good news and thanks for sharing. Monkeying with launchers is my second-favorite thing to do behind monkeying with task killers.

--Qfg

**Smokexz** · 08-31-2010, 08:10 PM

You lose 4 widget screens! Garbage!

**caliskimmer** · 08-31-2010, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by booggerg

I see. .then he be a competent reviewer.

From all of the reviews out there the pictured painted on the industry was why would these manufactures lock you into their custom skin.. and that vanilla android would be awesome on the Epic 4G... what a joke

Vanilla would look interesting (in a good way) that's for sure.

**Smokexz** · 08-31-2010, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by caliskimmer

Vanilla would look interesting (in a good way) that's for sure.

I would not put on the Vanilla theme, I lose 4 home screens, I have a lot of widgets, and there is just not enough space on 3 screens. I hope Froyo fixes this though.

**caliskimmer** · 08-31-2010, 08:18 PM

LauncherPro Plus is freaking awesome! I get the little screen jump with a pinch on a home screen just like the Evo and I can resize my widgets! Man, that dev is a genius! With Beautiful Weather, this phone becomes even awesomer (I know not a word)!