View Poll Results: High end devices, should there be carrier & manufacturer bloatware/UI addons?
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Yes, that is fine with me.
No, I feel I'm paying for a high end device and can decide what I want for apps, etc.
Doesn't matter to me, I will just root and remove it anyways.
I really don't care either way.
High End Devices should they have bloatware?
Just as the title says... You buy a high end device, regardless of what carrier. Do you feel you should be paying all that money and still have to deal with carrier provided bloatware and UI add ons?
- 03-19-2011, 08:55 PM #2
There is nothing wrong with the carrier adding additional software, (crapware, bloatware..) However, Every user of any device.. be it high end or entry level should be able to delete unwanted non system essential apps with out having to root.
Same problem with desktop PC's ( which is why i run Linux at home) Consumers shouldnt have to deal with extra crap on their resh new PC (like norton trial.. or Macafee.,).
I always to a fresh install with any new Computer purchase.Please add thanks if I have helped you in anyway. I will always spread the Aloha and reciprocate.
Samsung Epic; Froyo DK28
Carrier Sprint since 1998
Palm Pilot 1997 + Nokia 7650,8200, Palm Treo 700p 2005, Palm Pre June 2009, Sayonara Palm. Android Sept. 2010
- 03-19-2011, 09:28 PM #3
i feel the same as addie...if its there i should have the option to remove it. i havent completely gotten the ui of android...i'm learning as i go but i remember with my blackberry i hated all the extra apps that i didnt need or want. so i would put them in a folder and hide them. my husband even has a "sh!t" folder (no lie he actually named it that lol) to put all the extra crap that came with his bb. i dont use all the apps that come with the phone i download my own but all the extra stuff that i dont need i dont see a purpose for. i guess its nice that we can save apps to the sd card to save memory.
I agree on the stripped purchase on computers, wish it was that way on cell phones. Last two Dell computers I bought I had them built stripped, no additional software. When I received them there was like one Dell app and then the built in Windows garbage which, well its Windows you have to deal with that I guess but it can be removed...
- 03-19-2011, 11:44 PM #5
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I agree with the idea of if its there at least let me delete it. Some people do start out on high end devices, ( I did for example, the epic was my first android) so maybe the pre-installed apps help them out..BUT, you should always be able to delete anything you don't want on your phone. ( That is, anything that isn't necessary for the phone to run)
- 03-19-2011, 11:57 PM #6
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- 03-20-2011, 08:42 AM #13
As I said earlier, I don't know why carrier/device makers can't just install their bloatware to "Data" like we do on custom ROMs. Their software is still there but at least it gives the user option to dump it if they don't want it. That is not how they think, they have to keep you in a stranglehold by installing it to "/system/app" so it can't be removed unless you root.
Its an unfair practice I believe. You paid for the phone you should be able to remove what you don't want, period. Bad enough the carrier gets to have their name stamped on the darn thing, at least give me the option to remove your software I don't like.
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- 03-23-2011, 10:12 AM #20
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This echoes the legal battle going on with Sony/Geohot right now. When I bought my phone, I tried to remove the Sprint software that I did not want or need. It took up space, slowed my phone down, and drained precious battery life. I then learned that rooting was the only way to remove it. I shouldn't have to do that. I can uninstall anything that is shipped on a PC from the manufacturer, why should I have to go through this extra step on my phone? And this is where this comes full circle... Is it really "my property", do I really "own" this phone?
- 03-24-2011, 01:21 AM #21
- 03-24-2011, 06:37 AM #22
I am not sure what the obsession here is with bloatware. I for one do not watch nascar on sprint but having it and removing it is not a big deal. I do however watch sprint tv. It is just part of what you get when you sign onto a service, and imo, there is nothing wrong with that.
I respect that you don't care for it, but embrace it
- 03-24-2011, 07:57 AM #23
- 03-26-2011, 09:59 AM #24
a) This handset had no ability to use card memory for programs for seven months. It was one of the few released in Sept that had this limit (do to older android). This made conserving space on internal memory important and blaotware a more serious negative than other handsets.
b) It is an objective fact that the drm service added with media hub causes a 5% to 15% hit on overall battery life even if you never use media hub.
- 04-26-2011, 05:51 PM #25
for me personally, i don't care what crap they pre-load the device with, because it's gonna get rooted. and i understand loading a couple of carrier specific apps (sprint tv, nav, ect) for people to take advantage of if they would like. the problem is not giving the customer the ability to remove the apps if they are unwanted (after all, i bought the phone, i'm not renting from sprint). then when you start getting into hidden processes (i.e. DRM service, CIQ), that not only effect performance/battery life, but may also be gathering information in the background, that's where i start to have some big problems