Welcome to the Android Central Forums Create Your Account or Ask a Question Answers in 5 minutes - no registration required!
Results 1 to 20 of 20
Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By Spartoi
  1. Thread Author  Thread Author    #1  

    Default Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    I am weighing the pros and cons of both the Evo 3D and Galaxy S2. I think the Galaxy S2 is a superior phone but the lack of updates worry me. HTC and Sprint just seem to update their phones much frequently than any other company.

    Is the lack of updates making you reconsider Samsung and have you decided to purchase another phone instead of waiting for the Galaxy S2?? I have an Evo 4g and I had the Epic and I dont remember even one update.
  2. #2  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    The evo and epic both received updates. The evo has gingerbread and the epic will be getting it soon. As far as your first question goes, the answer is no. No way I wouldn't get the GS2 cause of slow updates. Only thing that would stop be would be a physical keyboard. Then I would wait for the nexus for sure.
  3. #3  
    graffix31's Avatar

    Posts
    82 Posts
    Global Posts
    1,034 Global Posts
    ROM
    we will see what comes

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    i agree, i dont think there is any question what the better phone is. gs2 ftw
  4. #4  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    Yes it is.
  5. #5  

    Default

    Right now I'm concerned about the lack of updates on when or if the GSII is coming to sprint

    Sent from my EVO without me knowing
  6. #6  

    Default

    I have a samsung epic, and I was extremely frustrated with the runaround waiting on the 2.2 update. I'm going to wait and see if samsung improves their support when they deliver 2.3 before buying another product from them. I bought the epic because I was told 2.2 would be out by mid october and it did not come until april. I needed flash for something work related. Flash was part of the 2.2 update, and samsung pushed the release 4 times making themselves look incompetent.

    I just bought 2 evo 3ds for each of my kids, and it is a smooth device. Very quick, and the 3d feature is more practical than I thought it would be. I really like swype on my epic, but htc really improved upon it with their swype touch. It gives you optional words on a bar closer to the keyboard rather than the pop up window. I would definitely recommend the evo 3d, and I'm going to look hard at the motorola photon.

    I may just holds on to my epic for another year. It is a sound device. I really need international coverage, but I just completed a lot of travel. I don't have another international trip for 6 months so no hurry.

    Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
  7. Thread Author  Thread Author    #7  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    Quote Originally Posted by heymista View Post
    I have a samsung epic, and I was extremely frustrated with the runaround waiting on the 2.2 update. I'm going to wait and see if samsung improves their support when they deliver 2.3 before buying another product from them. I bought the epic because I was told 2.2 would be out by mid october and it did not come until april. I needed flash for something work related. Flash was part of the 2.2 update, and samsung pushed the release 4 times making themselves look incompetent.

    I just bought 2 evo 3ds for each of my kids, and it is a smooth device. Very quick, and the 3d feature is more practical than I thought it would be. I really like swype on my epic, but htc really improved upon it with their swype touch. It gives you optional words on a bar closer to the keyboard rather than the pop up window. I would definitely recommend the evo 3d, and I'm going to look hard at the motorola photon.

    I may just holds on to my epic for another year. It is a sound device. I really need international coverage, but I just completed a lot of travel. I don't have another international trip for 6 months so no hurry.

    Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
    Thanks alot for your response. I have a feeling I may get the Evo 3d bcause I am sure it will get ice cream months before!!
  8. #8  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    definitely have doubts... I have the OG EVO now.. and loved it.. thought I would get the 3D for sure, but the glowing reviews of the S2 had made me wait for the S2.

    With that said, every one said they hated samsung's software... be it the rate it get the updates out... or to fix the GPS... or just touch wiz in general.

    in contrast.. HTC is well known to be awesome in software and responsiveness... EVO 3D has some issues in the software.. and they are even pushing out bug fixes without going thru sprint.. .which is awesome.. and keep the device updated....

    so in conclusion.. i am still waiting for S2 to come out to at least see for myself.. but i still have doubts... and I MAY still get 3D......
  9. #9  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    I've done my home work and watched way more YouTube reviews than I care to admit. From all I've seen and read the S2 is a real winner in so many ways. I'm not terribly worried about updates, BUT I am very concerned about the possibility of a functional issue (GPS,SMS, email bugs) not being dealt with in a timely manner. I'm in lust with this phone, but may have to (reluctantly) go Evo 3D to err on the side of reason.

    My thanks to all who take the time to contribute - I appreciate you!
  10. #10  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    2.3.4 has already been leaked for the Galaxy S2 (which was only released about 2 months ago). Carriers are the reason why the Galaxy S variants took so long to get updates as the international Galaxy S had Froyo in October and I think they got Gingerbread in April or May, and 2.3.4 was leaked last week. If your getting an unlocked Galaxy S2, you won't have to worry about updates. Besides, the S2 is already very capable as it is.
    rickhamilton620 likes this.
  11. #11  
    MikeBinOK's Avatar

    Posts
    308 Posts
    Global Posts
    449 Global Posts
    ROM
    boring ol' stock

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    I like the Galaxy S2 phone much better than the EVO 3D, but when I had a chance to upgrade my EVO 4G, I unhesitatingly went for the EVO 3D over the Galaxy. I did this even though I can't see in 3D<!> so the 3D capability is literally useless to me. Reasons were that the EVO 3D is available now, and that HTC has a proven track record of providing timely updates.

    The other option, the Galaxy S2 is not available on Sprint, to our knowledge has not passed through the FCC with Sprint radios installed, will be supported by Samsung which has a dubious reputation on software update support (though they do claim they are going to do better), and may end up being modified by Sprint to have a physical keyboard or other unknown and undesirable things to make the Sprint version distinctive (and these changes will presumably make software upgrades tougher).

    So even though I was fascinated by that great Samsung screen, and liked many of the other features, I went with another EVO unhesitatingly. And now the clock is ticking so I can upgrade again in twelve months! Rather than waiting for something that might come by Thanksgiving, or possibly not at all.
    Palm V-->Palm Vx-->Palm m505-->Garmin iQue3600-->Treo 650-->Treo 755p-->Palm Pre-->EVO 4G-->EVO 3D-->Droid Razr Maxx-->Galaxy S4
  12. #12  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    Im dieing to get the samsung galaxy s 2 in my hands.. It's going to be a beast!!!!!! Or should i wait for the nexus 3??? Can't make my mind up...
  13. #13  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartoi View Post
    2.3.4 has already been leaked for the Galaxy S2 (which was only released about 2 months ago). Carriers are the reason why the Galaxy S variants took so long to get updates as the international Galaxy S had Froyo in October and I think they got Gingerbread in April or May, and 2.3.4 was leaked last week. If your getting an unlocked Galaxy S2, you won't have to worry about updates. Besides, the S2 is already very capable as it is.
    I agree completely. Remember that carriers have the final say about whether software gets pushed or not. However, their internal testing is important and caught many (but not all) fit and finish issues software wise on these devices: Remember the mistranslated text in dialog boxes and stuff? Granted those were in places that the average user wouldn't normally delve on a daily basis but polish matters, even on a carrier subsidized device.

    The GPS issue wasn't Samsung's fault: They chose the superior (Google employees admitted as such in internal emails) Skyhook service for assisted GPS positioning, but were forced to strip it out at literally the last minute by Google in a rare for them power play. How Google controls Android: digging deep into the Skyhook filings | This is my next...

    Because this was done so late in the game, Samsung were left flatfooted trying to re-calibrate the GPS to work properly with Google's location service. Could the GPS update's be pushed out faster, absolutely. But remember that even those needed carrier approval.

    The fact that there were so many divergent Galaxy S devices didn't help matters. Even TouchWiz 3 varied in features among all of the "big 4" Galaxy S handsets. I think that if there were only two Galaxy S form factors (I strongly believe in a physical keyboard option when possible...it shouldn't have too much of an effect on software besides making the homescreen rotate, and the Epic's keyboard is amazing) that had a standardized build of the OS across the board (TouchWiz the same, limited amount of bundled apps) that it would have made the process simpler.

    Does the Galaxy S II fall under the renewed commitment among the big wireless carriers and phone makers to have X amount of updates for X amount of years that was announced at this year's I/O conference.
  14. #14  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    I have an Epic 4g. I'm running Gingerbread 2.3.3 EF02 non rooted. It wasn't that long that I got Froyo. And now I'm using a beta test gingerbread version for the Epic. Kudos to Sprint for getting gingerbread up and running for the Epic. And bigups to Samsung for getting on Sprint for getting the updates moving faster.
  15. #15  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    I don't worry so much about software updates if the phone itself is performing well. That would be my concern. I wouldn't mind being on gingerbread for a while if the operating system its stable.
  16. #16  
    Ricky Babalu's Avatar
    BEACH BUM

    Posts
    1,941 Posts
    Global Posts
    1,947 Global Posts
    ROM
    Stock : Rooted, Unlocked

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    I am not big on software updates as long as the phone performs well out of the box. I am venturing into uncharted waters here and am well aware of Samsung's track record. My "biggest" concern would be any bugs that would require updates to fix, I cannot afford to have a phone that does not function. This phone is getting rave reviews so far and that seems to alleviate any concerns with regard to it performing out of the box (unless my carrier mucks it up with their "crap" somehow).
  17. #17  
    astarling10's Avatar

    Posts
    20 Posts
    ROM
    4.0.2 Stock Rom

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    I bought the Galaxy S II from New Egg and I couldn't be happier. I have ATT for service and while the service can be finicky at times, it's not nearly as bad as people make of it. My road to the SII started from iPhone 4>Motorola Atrix>Nexus S>Samsung Infuse>SII and out of all of them, the SII is significantly better. I have had no issues with GPS (didn't have any with the Infuse either). I use GPS pretty regularly for geocaching and it's plenty accurate. As someone already mentioned, their is a leaked build of 2.3.4 already out on another forum and several ROMs created using it. I rarely use a phone a couple of years anyway so if the S II doesn't end up getting Ice Cream or whatever else is next after that, I would probably end up buying a different phone with better specs in a year anyway. But for now, the SII is the best in my book.
  18. #18  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    The fact that the photon was just announced today may sway my decision. Two weeks away, Samsung better make an announcement ASAP!
  19. #19  

    Default Re: Lack of updates cause doubt or reconsideration?

    Quote Originally Posted by unvme9180 View Post
    The fact that the photon was just announced today may sway my decision. Two weeks away, Samsung better make an announcement ASAP!
    I wonder what today's Photon announcement means for the Within. I can't see a carrier releasing two top tier smart phones within 30 days of each other, but I'd imagine crazier things have happened. Although I would argue that the two devices do have different appeals, so each will probably have their own market without a crazy amount of crossover.

    Still, I'd say this makes a mid to late August release for the GS2 more likely now, with early September not out of the question. *sigh*
  20. #20  
    garrettfarnum's Avatar

    Posts
    409 Posts
    ROM
    Zedomax OC 1.6 Ghz

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by JayWill72 View Post
    I wonder what today's Photon announcement means for the Within. I can't see a carrier releasing two top tier smart phones within 30 days of each other, but I'd imagine crazier things have happened. Although I would argue that the two devices do have different appeals, so each will probably have their own market without a crazy amount of crossover.

    Still, I'd say this makes a mid to late August release for the GS2 more likely now, with early September not out of the question. *sigh*
    I would definitely say early september, just so people can't get the photon and return it for the SII

Posting Permissions