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    Default Why did samsung not upgrade processor speed to 1.5GHz?

    Almost every single upcoming android powerhouse phone I am reading about has a 1.4-1.5GHz dual core processor. Even international LTE GSII would get upgraded to 1.5GHz. With a bigger body and battery than original international GSII, samsung could have safely increased their processor speed and thereby maintained some good lead for a little longer in the US market, so what could be the reason they still chose to go with 1.2GHz clock speed??

    Now I understand that numbers are not everything, and exynos clocked at 1.2ghz is already fast enough and still has muscle to overpower many other competing processing chips, and as such, 1.2Ghz would give us a side benefit of even more slightly increased battery life over a day's use, but its few of us educated android users from these forums who know it, not the common man, who is in majority and who would be basing his choice based on what sales people tell him or what he reads on the device label. I remember originally international GSII was going to be launched with 1GHz dual core initially, but samsung later increased the clock to 1.2 for competitive edge. With iPhone5 just coming out in few more weeks, and almost every upcoming super android phone having bigger clock speed number, why did Samsung still choose to keep processor speeds at 1.2GHz??
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    Default Re: Why did samsung not upgrade processor speed to 1.5GHz??

    Because, "You don't fix what ain't broken," it's a solid device and it doesn't need the insane clock speeds.
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    I agree the GSII is arriving a bit late to the U.S. party, and as a result it has aged a bit since it was the top dog, but it still is the best Android as of today. Even in a couple months with the Bionic and the HTC phone (forget the exact name) it's still going to be right in the top tier. Plus, I'll take SAMOLED+ over HTC's fairly drab screens and TouchWiz over Moto's BlurLite skin. To me, its got the best combination of features. Now that resolution staying the same on the other hand...
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    Seriously...besides eating more battery, would you honestly notice the difference between 1.2ghz dual and 1.5 if you weren't playing a high end game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfenton View Post
    Seriously...besides eating more battery, would you honestly notice the difference between 1.2ghz dual and 1.5 if you weren't playing a high end game?
    Probably not...
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    It's gonna fly with a 1.2 Exynos! Just watch the vids on the Euro version!

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    Default Re: Why did samsung not upgrade processor speed to 1.5GHz??

    I did wish they would have upgraded it but what i wanted most im getting, Exynos!.... This for the masses will be just fine. the Euro numbers were pushing 3000+ and when rooted to 1.5 was over 4100. So i want to see them try that with these upcoming phones.

    Im with media monkey... The screen should have been updated. but ill still take it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sndplace View Post
    I od wish they would have upgraded it but what i wanted mose im getting Exynos.... This for the masses will be just fine. the Euro numbers were pushing 3000+ and when rooted to 1.5 was over 4100. So i want to see them try that with these upcoming phones.

    Im with media monkey... The screen should have been updated. but ill still take it...
    I agree that the screen should have been updated but I am excited they upped it to 4.5" though. Kind of makes up for it a little......
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    I'm happy that is 4.5 inch . I don't drive myself nuts with this pentile stuff. To me the screen looks great and thats what counts... Who looks at there screen 2 inchs away from their face anyway lol

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    I'm with the OP. They changed everything about this phone supposedly upgrading it. The screen is larger yet still the same resolution. This probably helped them reduce manufacturing cost. It’s a bit insulting that the US is getting a cheaper aging GS2 while the real SG2 x2 (1.5ghz processing) is currently getting ready to launch in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrettfarnum View Post
    Because, "You don't fix what ain't broken," it's a solid device and it doesn't need the insane clock speeds.
    They already did fix what ain't broken. We aren't getting the awesome GS2, we're getting a redesign.
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    We wouldn't even be having this discussion if it didn't take so long to get the US versions released. If they had released in June or July like they should have we wouldn't have even heard about the 1.5ghz model yet. But the specs have been set in stone for awhile so it is what it is.

    We're still getting a cutting edge device, with the same great Exynos processor, great screen, and other specs. It just won't be as cutting edge as it was in May. I'd expect I'll be very happy with this device for the next couple of years, and don't think an additional 0.3ghz would get me any additional mileage or noticeably improve my using experience.
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    Interestingly the you tube page linked previously showing the specs of all 3 US variants shows the ATT and TMobile getting Exynos chip sets and the Sprint version getting an Orion???

    I know Orion was the precursor to Exynos and the name changed...I wonder why the difference in the listing of the specifications?
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    Root it and overclock it to 1.5, no big deal. As far as the screen goes they don't have a better 4.5 screen yet. They haven't been able to make the HD screen less than 5 inches yet.
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    I'm totally with OP. It really sucks that we're getting this 6 months later than everyone else, and it really adds insult to injury that they announce an updated version with an updated processor for the rest of the world before our version has even shipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfenton View Post
    Seriously...besides eating more battery, would you honestly notice the difference between 1.2ghz dual and 1.5 if you weren't playing a high end game?
    So what, some of us like to play high end games.

    Also, faster clock speeds often equate to lower battery usage. If a CPU is able to process everything it needs to process and then go to low power mode sooner, it often saves power in the net even though it's using more power while it's on.
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    The simple solution for you then is not to buy it. Wait for something else...which will be bested by something else coming along before you buy that
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    Why no 1.5GHz dual core?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfenton View Post
    The simple solution for you then is not to buy it. Wait for something else...which will be bested by something else coming along before you buy that
    Had this phone come out with the rest of the world we would have had the best phone for at least 6 months. As it stands now we will be luck to stand on top for a month or two. I have been considering passing on this phone simple out of principle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gummy View Post
    So what, some of us like to play high end games.

    Also, faster clock speeds often equate to lower battery usage. If a CPU is able to process everything it needs to process and then go to low power mode sooner, it often saves power in the net even though it's using more power while it's on.
    There isn't a game out there that you can't play with 1.2. .3 isn't going to make any difference. If that's what you want by all means get it, but if no one was told the specs you would never notice the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thekarens View Post
    There isn't a game out there that you can't play with 1.2. .3 isn't going to make any difference. If that's what you want by all means get it, but if no one was told the specs you would never notice the difference.
    Yes, today there is no game or software that can push exynos 1.2GHz to its limits, but if someone is buying this phone for next 2 years, there will be games available by then which would need higher speed. 0.3GHz, even if its a small number, is still a 25% boost in the clock speed, which is significant, and can keep this phone powerful with future games for little longer. I understand there would always be next bigger thing, but its not about next big phone, its about keeping my current phone big for little longer in a highly fast moving mobile hardware industry.
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    There isn't a 1.5 phone on Sprint and I would be willing to bet the Prime doesn't make it there before January and when it comes out the rumors of the quad core phones will be out. At some point you just got to make a decision and go with it since there will always something bigger, badder, better a couple months down the road.

    If the S2 isn't for you then certainly you shouldn't get it, but seems a little crazy for that reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thekarens View Post
    There isn't a 1.5 phone on Sprint and I would be willing to bet the Prime doesn't make it there before January and when it comes out the rumors of the quad core phones will be out. At some point you just got to make a decision and go with it since there will always something bigger, badder, better a couple months down the road.

    If the S2 isn't for you then certainly you shouldn't get it, but seems a little crazy for that reason.
    It is not about S2. S2 is a bad wild gunslinger who is gonna rule the sprint nation for next few months, and seriously, its hard to beat a samsung phone. Samsung has proven their worth once again this year after a rocking year of GSI. They carve their own silicon with perfection and its hard to beat them. S2 is a good phone and it will remain so. What I was talking about was that hardware and software and their progress goes hand in hand. When hardware improves, software becomes available that can utilize it fully. Desktop era was a good proof of this. Today there is nothing that can use 1.2GHz power of exynos, but soon there will be. Games qualities and graphics are improving fast, and at a time when quad core CPU's will become norm of next year, power hungry apps will come. Sad matter of the fact is that we are still stuck with 2 year upgrade cycle and there seems to be no way out without paying more for the device. So if I or someone else wants to buy a phone for next two years, then its natural to think of what its power would mean against apps that are gonna come 12 months down the road. 1.2GHz is norm of today, 1.5GHz would be norm of 6 months down the road. So 1.5GHz today could help fight off the desire to have the latest at least for next 6-12 months.

    Next big phones will keep coming. It doesn't mean the current hardware offering of E4GT is anything to laugh at. I already pre-ordered mine, and I am planning to just keep it in healthy condition for next 12 months, when I will sell it on craigslist and then invest couple of hundred dollar, which is same as upgrade cost with a new contract, and buy big thing at that time. It will be far easier this way than to worry about hardware specs for next 2 years. But I agree with your point that you have to make a decision at some point, and GS2 is perfect phone to help make that decision now.
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    If your worried about a phone to last you 2 years and still be able to handle all that it was built for and future proof get a flip phone. they are rock solid, can and will make great calls anywhere. If you want to play some serious games , get a console or subscribe to on live and play that thru your phone. I would like to really know how much gaming people really do on there phones .theirs not enough time in a day to sit their and play COD on it. This Phone will be plenty fine and if your worried about it being old and slow just rooted and push it to 2.0 ghz. Or become a premier member and get a new phone next year like most of us do and pass this one to your spouse like i will. I wish this came with 1.5ghz but if they where to just clock the same chip at 1.5 isnt that what we do when we root? anyway carry on ...
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    I admit I play a lot on my phone and I do because it's portable. I can play before work starts, at lunch, in the line at the grocery store......
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