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    Default What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Because I've been hearing a lot of promises for a long time.

    Network Vision and the chunk of 800meg spectrum they now have SHOULD mean that I might soon have more than 2 bars of 3G at my home???
    Oh, I'm SO looking forward to better penetration from the use of this and their old iDEN spectrum.

    It's not as if I live out in the sticks...
    I live in extreme south west Connecticut, not 30 miles from Manhattan.
    A 1/4 mile from US-1 and less than 1 mile from I-95.
    But it seems I'm lost in a black hole.

    Does anyone want to share what it's like to be surrounded by good coverage and fast data?
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by sure why not View Post
    Because I've been hearing a lot of promises for a long time.

    Network Vision and the chunk of 800meg spectrum they now have SHOULD mean that I might soon have more than 2 bars of 3G at my home???
    Oh, I'm SO looking forward to better penetration from the use of this and their old iDEN spectrum.

    It's not as if I live out in the sticks...
    I live in extreme south west Connecticut, not 30 miles from Manhattan.
    A 1/4 mile from US-1 and less than 1 mile from I-95.
    But it seems I'm lost in a black hole.

    Does anyone want to share what it's like to be surrounded by good coverage and fast data?
    Well it should really boost Sprint's network, as Clearwire holds alot of 4g spectrum. The Softbank deal should also really help the process along too. Hopefully Sprint will put those funds to speeding deployment of nv. This site should help you get oriented with the rollout of nv in your area, they are dedicated to it

    Aside from Sprint's current iDen phones, there are no other phones (and no smartphones), there is a list on that site that has all of the phones that will support the 800mhz band when it filps on. It should be a pretty simple process to upgrade the nv towers that were already upgraded prior to this, all they have to do is a simple firmware update to their routers, they may even do it all at once.

    However, from this point on, all of Sprint's smartphones that they will release will carry Tri-Band LTE. This means that they will be compatible with all of Sprints current and future LTE bands, 2500/1800/800 mhz spectrum, so you'll get 4g anywhere Sprint has it, if you have a Tri-Band. The Galaxy s4 is actually supposed to be re-released on Sprint's network as Tri-Band.
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    I would if i could. I live less then 18 miles from downtown denver, and am in a blackhole as well. Why does sprints network suck so bad? It's so bad at my house that i could get out of my contract no questions asked. But i like unlimited data, but I'm starting to ask why? Because off of my wifi, my phone is almost useless. Anyone else around denver feel sprints 3g is a joke? Especially at any of the stadiums! Holy crap at coors field I'm lucky to get 2 hours out of my phone on a full charge!! Are we missing something here?
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Thanks for your informed reply gollum!

    I was a longtime Nextel customer (i'm in the building trades) but had an iPhone on ATT for a personal phone until recently.
    My Nextel coverage in this area was much better than the Sprint coverage I'm getting now.
    Unfortunately for me I just got this S3 and don't intend to upgrade anytime soon.
    But I'm really happy with it and my switch to Android OS as well.

    It does seem that ALL of the pieces fell into place at once for Sprint.
    I'm glad I stuck it out this long.
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by sure why not View Post
    Thanks for your informed reply gollum!

    I was a longtime Nextel customer (i'm in the building trades) but had an iPhone on ATT for a personal phone until recently.
    My Nextel coverage in this area was much better than the Sprint coverage I'm getting now.
    Unfortunately for me I just got this S3 and don't intend to upgrade anytime soon.
    But I'm really happy with it and my switch to Android OS as well.

    It does seem that ALL of the pieces fell into place at once for Sprint.
    I'm glad I stuck it out this long.
    Dont worry the S3 is on the list for 800mhz compatibility.

    I hope the pieces continue to fall in place for Sprint as well. They are a good company despite what slanderers from camp ATT and Verizon may say (nevermind they are the only American owned major carrier in the US). Personally I think all that price gouging on Verzion, is their British overseers seeking revenge on us. Hopefully, within the next few years, we may see Sprint rivaling Verizon for the top spot. Considering they the most successful carrier in Japan backing them.
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by gollum18 View Post
    However, from this point on, all of Sprint's smartphones that they will release will carry Tri-Band LTE. This means that they will be compatible with all of Sprints current and future LTE bands, 2500/1800/800 mhz spectrum,.
    I was referring to the 2500 band, but like I said I'll be happy to have webpages fill faster than a 56k connection.... :rolleyes:
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by sure why not View Post
    I was referring to the 2500 band, but like I said I'll be happy to have webpages fill faster than a 56k connection.... :rolleyes:
    Oh I know, me too. I run my desktop off of it and it is slow... I just use it to lurk (and occasionally post) on here and the linux mint forums, oh and I occasionally play a few flash games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gollum18 View Post
    there is a list on that site that has all of the phones that will support the 800mhz band when it filps on.
    Do you have a link to that list? I just took a quick look, and didn't see anything.
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    the S3 will support 800 for voice, but not 800 lte

    here is a good forum for anything sprint
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    My mistake guys, the current phones are only compatible with 800mhz voice (advanced cdma 1x) once its deployed not lte, sorry to dissapoint. I made a stupid mistake, sprint only recently got approval for lte on 800mhz there are no phones that currently support it, although like I said earlier all future sprint 4g phones from this point on will be tri band capable.

    What phones will support CDMA on 800 SMR when it is rolled out?

    Apple iPhone 5
    BlackBerry Curve 9350
    HTC EVO 3D
    HTC EVO 4G LTE
    HTC EVO Design
    Huawei Express
    Kyocera Brio
    Kyocera DuraCore
    Kyocera DuraMax
    Kyocera DuraPlus
    Kyocera DuraXT
    Kyocera Milano
    LG Eclipse 4G
    LG Marquee
    LG Optimus Elite
    LG Rumor Reflex
    LG Viper
    Motorola Admiral
    Motorola Photon Q LTE
    Samsung Array
    Samsung Conquer
    Samsung Epic 4G Touch
    Samsung Galaxy Nexus
    Samsung Galaxy S3
    Samsung Galaxy Victory
    Samsung M370
    Samsung Transform Ultra
    Samsung Trender
    ZTE Fury

    *List updated September 2012* nearly all new phones released after September 2012 will support CDMA 1x RTT on 800MHz SMR

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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Gollum,
    Damn you, for what is obviously going to be another huge timesink....

    These are the NV market rollout threads.



    ... Now, what to do about data when I don't have Wifi.
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    I share the same frustration. Living in a city for half of the year and the suburbs of a major city for the other, I just can't understand how I always get 4G when driving on the highway or walking through the park but I never get it when I really want it - at home, at work, on the train.

    Verizon is still to this date the only carrier that didn't disappoint service wide. Yes, it's more expensive. But I get what I pay for. Having smartphones on T-Mobile and Sprint over the past four years has been an undeniable headache. Wi-Fi is necessary, even in the comfort of my own home. Not a problem unless I'm trying to conserve battery, make a phone call, or send a basic text message - aka the three primary reasons good reception and data helps. I feel like I'll eventually end up back with Verizon although I really don't want to, just simply because the service at cheaper carriers just annoys me to no end.

    Hopefully the Clearwire acquisition means good things. Hopefully with more advanced, true LTE technology en route, we will see faster speeds by the time I'm about to upgrade. But T-Mobile promised HSPA and LTE and fast speeds with new spectrum from the failed AT&T deal and all I ended up with was a letter from T-Mobile indicating three phones on my plan wouldn't be covered anymore and we'd need to upgrade or not have access to service anymore. Six months before our contract was up. And that required a new 2 year deal.

    It's just another reason why the American model sucks all around. Stifling innovation, restricting buyers, and forcing us into corners...

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    Wi-Fi is necessary, even in the comfort of my own home. Not a problem unless I'm trying to conserve battery,
    If you're trying to conserve battery you WANT to use WiFi. It is far more efficient than cellular data, especially 4G data.
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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    If you're trying to conserve battery you WANT to use WiFi. It is far more efficient than cellular data, especially 4G data.
    Oh yeah. Until we see the new qualcomm chips with all the radios integrated into one chip actually being put into use. The two separate radio chips will really sick up battery with both on. Really most 3g data from all the carriers besides sprint (at the moment) is faster than ~80% of all cable/dsl providers speeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spawndoodling View Post
    I share the same frustration. Living in a city for half of the year and the suburbs of a major city for the other, I just can't understand how I always get 4G when driving on the highway or walking through the park but I never get it when I really want it - at home, at work, on the train.

    Verizon is still to this date the only carrier that didn't disappoint service wide. Yes, it's more expensive. But I get what I pay for. Having smartphones on T-Mobile and Sprint over the past four years has been an undeniable headache. Wi-Fi is necessary, even in the comfort of my own home. Not a problem unless I'm trying to conserve battery, make a phone call, or send a basic text message - aka the three primary reasons good reception and data helps. I feel like I'll eventually end up back with Verizon although I really don't want to, just simply because the service at cheaper carriers just annoys me to no end.

    Hopefully the Clearwire acquisition means good things. Hopefully with more advanced, true LTE technology en route, we will see faster speeds by the time I'm about to upgrade. But T-Mobile promised HSPA and LTE and fast speeds with new spectrum from the failed AT&T deal and all I ended up with was a letter from T-Mobile indicating three phones on my plan wouldn't be covered anymore and we'd need to upgrade or not have access to service anymore. Six months before our contract was up. And that required a new 2 year deal.

    It's just another reason why the American model sucks all around. Stifling innovation, restricting buyers, and forcing us into corners...

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    I always use WiFi when I am at home. Constant 98 Mb/s. Can't get that on any carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ab304945 View Post
    I always use WiFi when I am at home. Constant 98 Mb/s. Can't get that on any carrier.
    What kind of router / AP are you using? I don't get close to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    If you're trying to conserve battery you WANT to use WiFi. It is far more efficient than cellular data, especially 4G data.
    Well I cannot send a text message or make a phone call on Sprint using Wi-Fi, so yes it may be more efficient, but it's relatively worthless if I'm trying to do basic functions with my phone that don't require data.

    Also, I use MMS a lot and it doesn't seem to work without Mobile Data on. So I end up always having Wi-Fi and Cellular Data on, wi-fi to get good speeds and coverage on data and mobile data on to send MMS. Thus, it becomes a battery killer. Of course, if I was able to use one without the other, this would solve the problem.

    (And while I have considered using apps like Whatsapp or Hangouts as my primary method of communication, nobody I know uses either and they're all stuck on iMessage, SMS, and basic phone calls)

    The central problem here is reception. Sprint and T-Mobile are just routinely blown out of the water by Verizon unless you live in a major city/city center. But even then, it varies. I used to think these carriers would give priority to DC as well, until I found that getting 4G with either in what is supposedly a 4G equipped city is still as random and variable as good mobile data always has been.

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    Default Re: What the aqusition of Clearwire spectrum and backing of Softbank means to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by spawndoodling View Post
    Well I cannot send a text message or make a phone call on Sprint using Wi-Fi, so yes it may be more efficient, but it's relatively worthless if I'm trying to do basic functions with my phone that don't require data.
    Have you tried Google Voice?
    It is integrated with your Sprint service.


    Sidenote; I saw 4G at the end of my street this morning.
    Unfortunately I don't think it will reach this far into the valley.
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