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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hustleman View Post
    Because he has one of those ol school style plans with 450 minutes.

    I compared apples with apples, not Apple's to oranges.

    Unlimited everything +3 GB on att is 120 and the same with 4gb in Verizon is 110 how is that not cheaper?

    How is that not true?

    You see the images, they aren't photoshopped and they aren't anything but an unmodified screen shot submitted.

    Then if you only need 2gb, it's 20 bucks cheaper.

    Don't argue with facts!

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    Your a bad Verizon salesman Hustleman scaring away potential customers that can be found in this forum.
    Your $ argument is upside down & you should be requesting OP location.
    From there look up rootscore to compare service . If V;s on top in his coverage area push that aspect & close deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hustleman View Post
    Because he has one of those ol school style plans with 450 minutes.

    I compared apples with apples, not Apple's to oranges.

    Unlimited everything +3 GB on att is 120 and the same with 4gb in Verizon is 110 how is that not cheaper?

    How is that not true?

    You see the images, they aren't photoshopped and they aren't anything but an unmodified screen shot submitted.

    Then if you only need 2gb, it's 20 bucks cheaper.

    Don't argue with facts!

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    So if you chose pure unlimited it's cheaper... What if I don't need unlimited minutes? Verizon has no options if I'm not mistaken but with ATT I could have 450 anytime minutes with... Unlimited any cell phone to any cell phone. That works for many people.. So that plan could be better for him and therefore cheaper.

    Verizon doesn't give you the option yet att does.. So technically in this case att is cheaper.

    Don't argue with facts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almeuit View Post
    So if you chose pure unlimited it's cheaper... What if I don't need unlimited minutes? Verizon has no options if I'm not mistaken but with ATT I could have 450 anytime minutes with... Unlimited any cell phone to any cell phone. That works for many people.. So that plan could be better for him and therefore cheaper.

    Verizon doesn't give you the option yet att does.. So technically in this case att is cheaper.

    Don't argue with facts!

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    Actually we still can sign customers up with nationwide plans with a certain amount of minutes and limited data

    They just don't push it.

    And like I said for the exact same thing, Verizon is cheaper, I've already proven that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hustleman View Post
    Actually we still can sign customers up with nationwide plans with a certain amount of minutes and limited data

    They just don't push it.

    And like I said for the exact same thing, Verizon is cheaper, I've already proven that.



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    Not in my book. You showed a unlimited plan not a limited one.. So in his situation att is cheaper.

    You just are saying it's always cheaper.. Which.. I guess is true in certain situations.. Just like att is cheaper in other situations to. There isn't an above all cheaper one.

    If I wanted I could say my unlimited data and pretty much minutes due to cell to cell on Sprint is the best.. 92$ after taxes... But I understand that isn't the case for all. Tons of stuff depends on who is better for what price. Some areas Verizon can suck and att could rock.. And vice versa... Just like some people on Sprint couldn't beat AOL dial up in their area... But I can. So network choice is a lot of factors and needs... Once the needs are known then by all means you can quote a plan and see which is best/cheapest.

    So I'll agree with you on Verizon being cheaper for fully unlimited all around.. But they aren't 100% of the time like your acting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingbox View Post
    ATT LTE towers are LTE advanced capable with small adjustment nothing major that will delay late 2013 launching.
    Sprint on the other hand is far behind in LTE tower count thus making deployment much slower on all levels.
    There maybe some area's that are being primed for LTE-A but AT&T entire network will not be ready for LTE-A like Sprint Network Vision will....Sprint will be able to Launch LTE-A across it's entire Network with almost the flick of a switch. Sprint is upgrading it's entire Network all 38.5K towers, not just slapping LTE panels on their existing infrastructure like ATT and Verizon has done over the majority of their network.

    Not to mention AT&T network won't be as consistent as Sprint's seeing as they don't have nationwide LTE on a single spectrum band. Sprint will have LTE consistently nationwide across the 3 same bands. 800/1900/2.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almeuit View Post
    Not in my book. You showed a unlimited plan not a limited one.. So in his situation att is cheaper.

    You just are saying it's always cheaper.. Which.. I guess is true in certain situations.. Just like att is cheaper in other situations to. There isn't an above all cheaper one.

    If I wanted I could say my unlimited data and pretty much minutes due to cell to cell on Sprint is the best.. 92$ after taxes... But I understand that isn't the case for all. Tons of stuff depends on who is better for what price. Some areas Verizon can suck and att could rock.. And vice versa... Just like some people on Sprint couldn't beat AOL dial up in their area... But I can. So network choice is a lot of factors and needs... Once the needs are known then by all means you can quote a plan and see which is best/cheapest.

    So I'll agree with you on Verizon being cheaper for fully unlimited all around.. But they aren't 100% of the time like your acting.

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    I compared unlimited with unlimited.

    Anything else is apples to oranges.

    And I never said it's cheaper in every aspect in every situation, just noted that they are cheaper for the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hustleman View Post
    I compared unlimited with unlimited.

    Anything else is apples to oranges.

    And I never said it's cheaper in every aspect in every situation, just noted that they are cheaper for the same thing

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    Well I wouldn't know.. I asked to compare a limited minute plan with a att one to be fair on that aspect incase someone didn't want unlimited minutes.. I can't find it but you swear they offer it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lennyj17 View Post
    There maybe some area's that are being primed for LTE-A but AT&T entire network will not be ready for LTE-A like Sprint Network Vision will....Sprint will be able to Launch LTE-A across it's entire Network with almost the flick of a switch. Sprint is upgrading it's entire Network all 38.5K towers, not just slapping LTE panels on their existing infrastructure like ATT and Verizon has done over the majority of their network.

    Not to mention AT&T network won't be as consistent as Sprint's seeing as they don't have nationwide LTE on a single spectrum band. Sprint will have LTE consistently nationwide across the 3 same bands. 800/1900/2.5
    Im not hear to beat up Sprint Lenny but you have been preaching Sprint will win talk for years with predictions that fall far short so lets focus on facts you can see and touch today.
    Sprint is floundering for the most part deploying in small market low population areas with many of their launches providing very low network completion %
    With that being reality Sprint has a very long way to go before even coming close to flipping advance Switch....heck by the look their LTE build out wont be complete till late 2014/ beginning 2015 & will it really be reliable? Seeing Sprints history I find them to be a bad gamble which is why I made the move.
    I hope they succeed though! If they do I may become a Sprint customer again but Im sure is heck not going to wait around on edge speed dreaming about a better tomorrow.

    ATT on the other hand updated Towers in 2011 bringing HSPA+ to table prepping for LTE / LTE advance so their set ready to go.
    Their network build out is solid as seen in their press release today -

    Anyway such prediction conversions are stupid.
    Last edited by Slingbox; 07-02-2013 at 02:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingbox View Post
    Im not hear to beat up Sprint Lenny but you have been preaching Sprint will win talk for years with predictions that fall far short so lets focus on facts you can see and touch today.
    Sprint is floundering for the most part deploying in small market low population areas with many of their launches providing very low network completion %
    With that being reality Sprint has a very long way to go before even coming close to flipping advance Switch....heck by the look their LTE build out wont be complete till late 2014/ mid 2015 & will it really be reliable? Seeing Sprints history I find them to be a bad gamble.
    I hope they succeed though!

    ATT on the other hand updated Towers in 2011 bringing HSPA+ to table prepping for LTE / LTE advance so their set ready to go.
    Their network build out is solid as seen in their press release today -

    Anyway such prediction conversions are stupid.
    While I agree that such predictions are pointless I just wanted to say Sprint has some areas they are building that aren't low pop.. Chicago, Texas, etc. Heck even where I live (Jacksonville FL) they are building... While we aren't a huge population (I don't think) but I do know as a city we are huge land mass wise.

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    oh yeah Sprint is building in some high population areas but for the most part its been small markets , off the wall markets which I find very odd.
    One thing that really upsets me is their definition of New Market available. Many New Sprint markets advertised are only 30 - 50% complete with network stability low after ribbon cut.
    Example would be Sprint LTE market launch for my area , It was a few months ago yet its still pretty much unusable.

    Verizon / ATT get Market 90% complete & tested stable for the most part then announce which makes sense
    Last edited by Slingbox; 07-02-2013 at 03:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lennyj17 View Post
    There maybe some area's that are being primed for LTE-A but AT&T entire network will not be ready for LTE-A like Sprint Network Vision will....Sprint will be able to Launch LTE-A across it's entire Network with almost the flick of a switch. Sprint is upgrading it's entire Network all 38.5K towers, not just slapping LTE panels on their existing infrastructure like ATT and Verizon has done over the majority of their network.

    Not to mention AT&T network won't be as consistent as Sprint's seeing as they don't have nationwide LTE on a single spectrum band. Sprint will have LTE consistently nationwide across the 3 same bands. 800/1900/2.5
    Exactly what I've been saying for months bro lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingbox View Post
    oh yeah Sprint is building in some high population areas but for the most part its been small markets , off the wall markets which I find very odd.
    One thing that really upsets me is their definition of New Market available. Many New Sprint markets advertised are only 30 - 50% complete with network stability low after ribbon cut.
    Example would be Sprint LTE market launch for my area , It was a few months ago yet its still pretty much unusable.

    Verizon / ATT get Market 90% complete & tested stable for the most part then announce which makes sense
    No vzw and att did not. They did the same thing and my city Chicago is the farthest along in nv and we are the third largest city in the us. Plus it's lte in la and ny btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellimel22 View Post
    No vzw and att did not. They did the same thing and my city Chicago is the farthest along in nv and we are the third largest city in the us. Plus it's lte in la and ny btw.

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    IF you mean lte in LA Metro then u do t know what you mean by its so unconsisent that I don't get a usable signal and that us what I want to switch to AT&T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usguyver View Post
    IF you mean lte in LA Metro then u do t know what you mean by its so unconsisent that I don't get a usable signal and that us what I want to switch to AT&T.

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    Well if I'm not mistaken your city isn't a launched market so to expect full coverage is... Yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingbox View Post
    Im not hear to beat up Sprint Lenny but you have been preaching Sprint will win talk for years with predictions that fall far short so lets focus on facts you can see and touch today.
    Sprint is floundering for the most part deploying in small market low population areas with many of their launches providing very low network completion %
    With that being reality Sprint has a very long way to go before even coming close to flipping advance Switch....heck by the look their LTE build out wont be complete till late 2014/ beginning 2015 & will it really be reliable? Seeing Sprints history I find them to be a bad gamble which is why I made the move.
    I hope they succeed though! If they do I may become a Sprint customer again but Im sure is heck not going to wait around on edge speed dreaming about a better tomorrow.

    ATT on the other hand updated Towers in 2011 bringing HSPA+ to table prepping for LTE / LTE advance so their set ready to go.
    Their network build out is solid as seen in their press release today -

    Anyway such prediction conversions are stupid.
    Its not prediction, its facts based on Timetables outlined... Sprint will be further along with implementation of LTE A because its baked into overhaul of Network Vision, Network Vision is nationwide project not a market here a market there type upgrade as AT&T doing. Plus Sprint will have the spectrum in place to launch it consistently across the US on 800/1900/2.5 spectrum, AT&T will not...AT&T is 700 in some markets, 1700 in other, 2100 in some... AT&T spectrum allocation is very much a patch-work and market based.

    You can see by reading thread. People still don't understand the scope of Network Vision and that its a COMPLETE NETWORK OVERHAUL, NOT JUST AN LTE UPGRADE, its not about smaller markets vs. bigger one. Smaller Markets come online before larger one because there are less tower to convert. Doesn't mean larger markets don't have Network Vision accessible, on the contrary except for the cities of OH, mostly all "Big Cities" have Network Vision well under way, with towers online broadcasting LTE.

    You guys really need to study this whole Network Vision thing, and quit talking out your a**es comparing what Sprint is doing to what AT&T and Verizon did/are doing, their not the same things. I feel like I need to defend Sprint, because the people who are bashing it, are doing so without complete knowledge of what's really going on here. Verizon and ATT DO NOT wait until 90% completion, they announce market launch at 40-50%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lennyj17 View Post
    Its not prediction, its facts based on Timetables outlined... Sprint will be further along with implementation of LTE A because its baked into overhaul of Network Vision, Network Vision is nationwide project not a market here a market there type upgrade as AT&T doing. Plus Sprint will have the spectrum in place to launch it consistently across the US on 800/1900/2.5 spectrum, AT&T will not...AT&T is 700 in some markets, 1700 in other, 2100 in some... AT&T spectrum allocation is very much a patch-work and market based.

    You can see by reading thread. People still don't understand the scope of Network Vision and that its a COMPLETE NETWORK OVERHAUL, NOT JUST AN LTE UPGRADE, its not about smaller markets vs. bigger one. Smaller Markets come online before larger one because there are less tower to convert. Doesn't mean larger markets don't have Network Vision accessible, on the contrary except for the cities of OH, mostly all "Big Cities" have Network Vision well under way, with towers online broadcasting LTE.

    You guys really need to study this whole Network Vision thing, and quit talking out your a**es comparing what Sprint is doing to what AT&T and Verizon did/are doing, their not the same things. I feel like I need to defend Sprint, because the people who are bashing it, are doing so without complete knowledge of what's really going on here. Verizon and ATT DO NOT wait until 90% completion, they announce market launch at 40-50%.
    Exactly it's not just swiss cheese slapping lte panels here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almeuit View Post
    Well if I'm not mistaken your city isn't a launched market so to expect full coverage is... Yeah...

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    Yes I let the la metro area is a launched market already so therefore is that should be at around 40 to 50 percent but its not this Christmas time and there's a lot of business you should look it up on s4gru Delhi Metro market is already launched it launched in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usguyver View Post
    Yes I let the la metro area is a launched market already so therefore is that should be at around 40 to 50 percent but its not this Christmas time and there's a lot of business you should look it up on s4gru Delhi Metro market is already launched it launched in April.

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    I do check s4gru for things from time to time... But if you just said your only at 40-50 percent then.. You kind of answered your own statement on why it's spotty. I live in Jacksonville and it's 45% so.. It's spotty at times depending on where I am but what else can I expect when it's not 100%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellimel22 View Post
    No vzw and att did not. They did the same thing and my city Chicago is the farthest along in nv and we are the third largest city in the us. Plus it's lte in la and ny btw.

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    Interesting.
    ATT LTE hit my area it was pretty tight little to no dry spots
    During that time frame I stopped by corp store to pay bill & chatted with manger which conveyed ATT wont announce Market until 90% of landscapes complete.
    6 weeks later Launch was announced.
    Many many postings in ATT Site forums following the same time line , Now this is not to say some markets don't go so smooth but for the most part that's how their deployment has played out.

    You go into Sprint site forums complaints galore customers up in arm screaming left , right & in between about so called launches being a joke with many areas being worse off....lots of negative postings about Chicago market with users sick of being told to PRL update & device isn't working properly by Sprint CS .
    My area for example , Sprint Announced launch little over 2 months and service is worst ever. Theres a couple postings in this forum touching on how bad it is in Hampton roads.

    Will these amazing towers save Sprints day? , Maybe when they get them working properly but by the looks of Sprint site forum posting its not looking so good.....tons of postings of users not having service for weeks begging to get out of contract free.
    How long will it take to get them online in proper working order? That's a mystery which no one truly has the answer to.
    Welcome to Sprint.

    I had to say goodbye to that.
    Living in the trailer watching the house being built wasn't for me anymore.
    For the Sprint network dreamers enjoy , If your house is built as strong as you preach I will move in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slingbox View Post
    Interesting.
    ATT LTE hit my area it was pretty tight little to no dry spots
    During that time frame I stopped by corp store to pay bill & chatted with manger which conveyed ATT wont announce Market until 90% of landscapes complete.
    6 weeks later Launch was announced.
    Many many postings in ATT Site forums following the same time line , Now this is not to say some markets don't go so smooth but for the most part that's how their deployment has played out.

    You go into Sprint site forums complaints galore customers up in arm screaming left , right & in between about so called launches being a joke with many areas being worse off....lots of negative postings about Chicago market with users sick of being told to PRL update & device isn't working properly by Sprint CS .
    My area for example , Sprint Announced launch little over 2 months and service is worst ever. Theres a couple postings in this forum touching on how bad it is in Hampton roads.

    Will these amazing towers save Sprints day? , Maybe when they get them working properly but by the looks of Sprint site forum posting its not looking so good.....tons of postings of users not having service for weeks begging to get out of contract free.
    How long will it take to get them online in proper working order? That's a mystery which no one truly has the answer to.
    Welcome to Sprint.

    I had to say goodbye to that.
    Living in the trailer watching the house being built wasn't for me anymore.
    For the Sprint network dreamers enjoy , If your house is built as strong as you preach I will move in
    Well I avg about 15-20mb and 11mb during peak hours and Im in Chicago and travel daily throughout the city and I hardly if ever switch to 3g. Ymmv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellimel22 View Post
    Well I avg about 15-20mb and 11mb during peak hours and Im in Chicago and travel daily throughout the city and I hardly if ever switch to 3g. Ymmv

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    That's because Chicago is almost ninety nine percent complete all other areas are only 50 percent complete taking a very long time to complete such as the l.a. Metro market area which I live in. So I finally talked to someone and they mean they will I should let me on my contract I'm just desding if I'm going to do it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usguyver View Post
    That's because Chicago is almost ninety nine percent complete all other areas are only 50 percent complete taking a very long time to complete such as the l.a. Metro market area which I live in. So I finally talked to someone and they mean they will I should let me on my contract I'm just desding if I'm going to do it or not.

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    He was responding to Slingbox's rant that everyone in Chicago was complaining. Thus proving it was just a rant and not to be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey47 View Post
    He was responding to Slingbox's rant that everyone in Chicago was complaining. Thus proving it was just a rant and not to be taken seriously.
    Exactly lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey47 View Post
    He was responding to Slingbox's rant that everyone in Chicago was complaining. Thus proving it was just a rant and not to be taken seriously.
    Who said everyone , I stated lots lol

    Some more so call Chicago rant
    Chicago July 2012 LTE rollout -
    Almost a year later their 99% complete according to usguyver

    There still lots complaining about service issue in city , Maybe those entering need to PRL more

    Anyway , The root score for the 99% compete Chicago Sprint network -
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    Root metrics was always flacky and me and the others I know avg around 15-20mb which is more than ok.

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