HDMI Mirroring?

**E_man** · 01-09-2011, 01:58 AM

The 2X has it, does the Atrix have HDMI Mirroring? Not sure it's even necassary, but would be nice.

**Smitty_82** · 01-09-2011, 03:23 AM

I'm pretty sure it does. Most dual core phones will have it.

**btgrave** · 01-09-2011, 05:48 PM

It does.

**blopez24** · 01-09-2011, 06:51 PM

whats hdmi mirroring? sorry for the noob question.

**E_man** · 01-10-2011, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Bob Brown

It does.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Blopez21

whats hdmi mirroring? sorry for the noob question.

It means that anything on your screen is also displayed on the TV or monitor. The difference is that phones like the Droid X only allowed certain things such as DRM free movies to pass through.

**textiaac** · 01-10-2011, 07:34 PM

I heard that it doest. When you plug it into a TV it runs linux. You can pull a window containing your phones UI in full screen though. It will not have mirroring out of the box. An app (or rooting) may solve the problem.

**oldemu** · 01-13-2011, 03:09 PM

This is news to me but a necessary an awesome feature. Should be standard on all new Android based phones

**reverepats#AC** · 01-13-2011, 04:08 PM

does the EVO have mirroring????????....just wondering

**skribbles505** · 01-13-2011, 05:18 PM

No Mirroring on the EVO, although I believe Cyanogen is working on it for their rom.

**4given_p8ntblr** · 01-13-2011, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by skribbles505

No Mirroring on the EVO, although I believe Cyanogen is working on it for their rom.

Now could you use that ROM with the DX?

**uberspeed** · 01-13-2011, 11:10 PM

I don't see it listed

It could be a feature of Tegra2 though as the LG Optimus 2X has it. Perhaps it's another one of those things that will come after release like the 1080p recording.

**Droid hungry** · 01-13-2011, 11:11 PM

Anyone know about the moto bionic? i know its not quite the right thread but its close so i figured i'd pop it in real quick.

**Smitty_82** · 01-13-2011, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Droid hungry

Anyone know about the moto bionic? i know its not quite the right thread but its close so i figured i'd pop it in real quick.

Yes on the bionic

**Dark_Blu** · 01-14-2011, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by skribbles505

No Mirroring on the EVO, although I believe Cyanogen is working on it for their rom.

If no mirroring, then what does the EVO display via HDMI out. If it doesn't mirror what's on the phone screen, what is the point? HDMI is pretty useless if it doesn't mirror. That's one of the reasons I got an EVO.

**JKChad** · 01-14-2011, 03:21 PM

After playing with the Atrix at CES last weekend. I can confirm that it does have mirroring, but through the webtop interface. The interface basically runs an emulation of the phones screen. Although I'm a VZW guy. I'm honestly really jealous of this device and can't wait to see some of the features, Laptop dock specifically, for some of the future VZW droids. I've got photo's and video's of the device if anyone is interested.

**btgrave** · 01-14-2011, 06:19 PM

There IS hdmi Mirroring........when you connect it to a TV, it will give you the option for entertainment center mode or "do nothing" mode. "Do nothing" mode will simply mirror your screen on the TV instead of launching into Moto's entertainment center styled UI with your phone's screen turning into the remote.

**Auzo** · 01-14-2011, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dark_Blu

If no mirroring, then what does the EVO display via HDMI out. If it doesn't mirror what's on the phone screen, what is the point? HDMI is pretty useless if it doesn't mirror. That's one of the reasons I got an EVO.

It doesn't mirror, what it does is display certain videos, ad pictures on a tv or music through the tv speakers. You cant generally see a copy of whats on your phone's screen, play games, watch protected media, or look at your browser, on the TV, among other things. That feature on the EVO only works for a small subset of what you probably would want to use it for. It was the best available at the time as most of last years processors couldn't handle true screen cloning.

**E_man** · 01-14-2011, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by uberspeed

I don't see it listed

It could be a feature of Tegra2 though as the LG Optimus 2X has it. Perhaps it's another one of those things that will come after release like the 1080p recording.

1080p is coming? Where'd you see this? The 2X has it, but I would think that if the Atrix had it, moto would have made sure you knew, even if it was a "coming soon" feature. Edit: Nevermind, I saw it in your link. Sweet.

Originally Posted by Bob Brown

There IS hdmi Mirroring........when you connect it to a TV, it will give you the option for entertainment center mode or "do nothing" mode. "Do nothing" mode will simply mirror your screen on the TV instead of launching into Moto's entertainment center styled UI with your phone's screen turning into the remote.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Auzo

It doesn't mirror, what it does is display certain videos, ad pictures on a tv or music through the tv speakers. You cant generally see a copy of whats on your phone's screen, play games, watch protected media, or look at your browser, on the TV, among other things. That feature on the EVO only works for a small subset of what you probably would want to use it for. It was the best available at the time as most of last years processors couldn't handle true screen cloning.

I don't think it was the processors fault, there were apps that allowed you to do it iirc. My Galaxy S did as well, but it was through the 3.5mm port with crap quality.

**Auzo** · 01-14-2011, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by E_man

I don't think it was the processors fault, there were apps that allowed you to do it iirc. My Galaxy S did as well, but it was through the 3.5mm port with crap quality.

No, it's definitely the processor. You could probably do some fake mirroring in software but the performance would be bad.

First off you are comparing a hummingbird based SoC from Samsung to the first gen Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor (SGX540 >> Adreno200). Secondly there is a huge difference from mirroring 1080p through HDMI vs "crap quality" through the 3.5mm headset jack (I am very interested to see how you output video over that jack btw.)

**JVAndroid** · 01-14-2011, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Auzo

First off you are comparing a hummingbird based SoC from Samsung to the first gen Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor (SGX540 >> Adreno200). Secondly there is a huge difference from mirroring 1080p through HDMI vs "crap quality" through the 3.5mm headset jack (I am very interested to see how you output video over that jack btw.)

The Galaxy S series has the third ring on the female end of it's 3.5mm jack, it carries the video through a 3.5mm to composite RCA cable.

**Auzo** · 01-14-2011, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by JVAndroid

The Galaxy S series has the third ring on the female end of it's 3.5mm jack, it carries the video through a 3.5mm to composite RCA cable.

Ah yes that makes sense, thanks for the explanation.

So at best with this method you have standard def which is a far cry from outputting HD.

**JVAndroid** · 01-14-2011, 11:42 PM

Even without the HD quality, the 3.5 to composite is at least reliable. My experience with using the HDMI out on the Evo is rather grim, phone reboots, florce closes, and overall instability galore with three differant Evos, (no, they were not mine) and two different cables. I'm not sure if Motorola's implementation on the DX has been better, but for the sake of the Atrix, I hope so... because I plan on having one.

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**Auzo** · 01-14-2011, 11:53 PM

Ya for the Atrix the Tegra 2 supports 2 displays at a hardware level so as long as Motorola wants it you will have high quality cloning that looks as good as it does on the LG Optimus 2X.

From Nvidia:

Display
Display Controllers 2 simultaneous
HDMI 1.3 1920x1080
LCD 1024x600 (Tegra 230)
1680x1050 (Tegra 250)
CRT 1280x1024 (Tegra 230)
1600x1200 (Tegra 250)
MIPI DSI Yes

**E_man** · 01-15-2011, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Auzo

No, it's definitely the processor. You could probably do some fake mirroring in software but the performance would be bad.

First off you are comparing a hummingbird based SoC from Samsung to the first gen Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor (SGX540 >> Adreno200). Secondly there is a huge difference from mirroring 1080p through HDMI vs "crap quality" through the 3.5mm headset jack (I am very interested to see how you output video over that jack btw.)

Even so, there is nothing stopping the phone from rendering the screen and displaying multiple outputs if the GPU can send output to multiple screens. Not talking from a phone standpoint, but from that of a PC, rendering an image takes the processing power. Displaying the same image on more than one screen does not. If the GPU on the HTC's had enough clock gens to support two screens, HDMI mirroring would be possible on a hardware level.

**lampux** · 01-17-2011, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Bob Brown

There IS hdmi Mirroring........when you connect it to a TV, it will give you the option for entertainment center mode or "do nothing" mode. "Do nothing" mode will simply mirror your screen on the TV instead of launching into Moto's entertainment center styled UI with your phone's screen turning into the remote.

That's a good news. I have a doubt: if I want connect the atrix to a TV, could I buy just a simple HDMI cable (mini hdmi) or I will be forced to buy the multimedia dock to connect the atrix to TV? The real mirroring is the first option, like you can do with lg optimus 2x.