- 02-13-2011, 12:39 PM #2
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Dang, I'm actually quite disappointed with the camera. Darnit. I mean, I'm not buying the phone for its camera, but when compared to the iPhone 4, it really suffers. It almost looks like maybe there was a fingerprint smudge over the lens. It is really fuzzy and the blacks are not black at all. Poo!!
- 02-13-2011, 05:08 PM #9
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Let's get it out of the way now, no phone out there so far has beaten the iPhone4's camera except for the Nokia N8.
It's all down to sensors and no one is really pushing that now but instead tricking consumers by just having bigger megapixels.
Also, if you really need a good camera for pictures, just invest in a simple point and shoot or an actual camera.
- 02-13-2011, 05:09 PM #10
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- 02-14-2011, 12:15 AM #14
There's really no excuse for a device as high end as the Atrix to have such a poor camera. I know the quality will not match a good point and shoot, but the technology to make it good is there and readily available.
The truth is, people rely on their smartphones to be their "everything" in their pocket, and this includes pictures. People take their phones everywhere, and should be able to take pictures when the moments strick without carrying a secondary device around all the time. I only take pictures sometimes, but I do expect them to be of decent, dare I say 'good' quality (for a phone) when I buy a $500+ device. Even my N1 has a better camera quality than this.
Devices this high end should be quality through and through.
- 02-14-2011, 01:16 AM #15
- 02-14-2011, 07:10 AM #16
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I have been pleased with the camera on my 3Gs. Ever since my daughter was born, I found myself taking a bunch of pics, I think there are 1500 or so on my phone now. I'm sure that the atrix will take better pics than the 3Gs does, so it may not be the best of everything in the industry, it is still better than what I got. Let the iPhone crowd have the better camera, while we are on our faster, larger capacity phones doing things that would make Steve Jobs cringe we will remember who made the better choice. I for one am fed up with mother apple.
- 02-14-2011, 09:08 AM #17
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p.s. lens aren't the problem. It is the sensors. To have better pictures, you need better and bigger sensors, but when manufacturers put those in a smartphone, then you'll be complaining about how thick the phone is. You can't have it both ways. Deal with it.
- 02-14-2011, 11:34 AM #18
Did you look at the article on Anandtech? That picture should have been pretty clear, and the ones you posted, maybe two were decent.
The point is, there is NO reason for a high end phone to have such crappy optics anymore. End of story.
- 02-14-2011, 02:40 PM #19
The argument that if you want a good photograph...buy a camera, is way old. With phones now offering cameras as good or better than some point-and-shoots, the argument is moot. Who carries there camera and their phone with them everywhere they go (that isn't a reporter or professional photog)? Not too many people. If when my phone comes, I'm not completely satisfied with the quality of the camera, I'm sending it back.
I'm not a brand snob. I wanted a phone with Android because I've never had one. I picked the Atrix because it was the best that AT&T offered. If I'm not happy with it, I'll just wait a little while longer and maybe get the iPhone 5. I want something that I'll be happy with for the next two years.
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- 02-14-2011, 10:28 PM #23
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This is just for my personal situation, but I happen to love flickr and traveling, so I already have a fantastic Panasonic Lumix camera that I absolutely adore. I don't care if my Atrix has a bad camera I do care if I'm going to be charged for tethering, though...I heard we can disable this after the first month's bill and keep the ability of using the laptop dock though? Is this true?
edit: However, that doesn't change the fact that I definitely agree that such a high-end phone should have a better camera by now.
- 02-14-2011, 11:07 PM #24
I too have a really nice Panasonic Lumix FZ20. I know, kind of dated, but such a great camera. It's no pocket point and shoot though. I'm not even upset about the Atrix having a 5MP camera. The apple phone has a 5MP camera. I'm just wishing it took better pics. I was looking at engadget's review and looking at how purple the blacks are...me no likey!!
- 02-15-2011, 12:01 AM #25
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However, now I've read this part of Anandtech's review about the docks, specifically the laptop dock, and I'm beginning to think, with my current situation of being quite low on funds, maybe I just shouldn't even bother with that particular dock. I'd really be wanting it for college classes (typing up notes quite often), and heavy (preferably HD) youtube usage. Both of which the Atrix 4G doesn't seem to have quuuite enough juice to power the dock with, according to the review. I quote:
"Where the Firefox/PC experience breaks down is the minute you ask for more than a simple browsing experience. Typing in Google Docs is laggy. With a couple of browser tabs open I found that I could type three sentences before they'd appear in my document.
YouTube playback works, however anything above 360p begins to drop frames. While 480p is playable, anything higher is basically impossible to watch. Motorola preloads Flash 10.1.120.10 with hardware acceleration in its webtop Linux however there doesn't appear to be any way to force an update. You'll note that this is the same version of Flash that the Optimus 2X was running, although I'm not convinced that GPU acceleration is fully enabled under Motorola's webtop Linux. Monitoring CPU usage in Android shows that playing a YouTube video in webtop Linux eats up between 50 - 80% of the two ARM Cortex A9s. Hilariously enough, HTML5 video is unwatchable in Firefox on the Atrix 4G.
Light usage isn't bad, but open too many tabs and you quickly get a worse-than-netbook browsing experience on the Atrix 4G.
You can Alt+Tab to switch between windows when you're in webtop Linux however even bringing up the task switcher is incredibly laggy at times.
It's clear that the webtop app is Motorola's main reason for including 1GB of memory on the Atrix. The Android VM typically eats up around 40% of available memory, with Firefox another 16% during light usage. While Motorola could've gotten by with only 768MB, I believe the 1GB is probably perfect for the Atrix if you're going to be using it in webtop mode."
So, now I'm leaning more towards not bothering with the extra expense of the laptop dock...but I wish I had the financial freedom of not worrying about the extra expense and that I could just buy it right now like some of you have done! =)
So, as of now, I'm super undecided. Leaning towards the regular dock, vehicle dock, and the phone...only. And not adding any dumb tethering fee to my bills.