How Sammy will slam Apple over LTE

**jontalk** · 06-09-2012, 12:32 PM

Just saw this and figured everyone would want to read about this. As you will see Samsung appears to own many of the LTE patents that Apple may infringe upon to release the 'next iPhone'.. So it's likely Sammy is NOT going to play nice with Apple, which will be a HUGE strike back at them..

Read it and weep Apple!

Ry · 06-09-2012, 12:47 PM

Why wait for an LTE iPhone? Go after the LTE iPad.

**oldmanjenkins** · 06-09-2012, 02:14 PM

Samsung deff needs to use that as leverage. Samsung has already showed it has balls by directing every aspect of the release of GS3 for the US markets. Instead of having provider variants of the GS3 like the iPhone each provider has the same. This will allow the consumer to determine for themselves which provider has the better network.

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**3rdpig** · 06-09-2012, 02:32 PM

Apple is going to find that the old saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is true. They're going to have every other mobile manufacturer in the world lined up against them. Yes they've got deep pockets, but are they that deep?

**Blujay93** · 06-09-2012, 02:37 PM

Apple buyers are gonna find that the high prices of any Apple equipment stems from their outrageous use of lawyers.

**Mac.World** · 06-09-2012, 02:48 PM

Question is, who owns the other 90% of LTE patents? Does Apple own any sminal related LTE patents or joint own through NORTEL patents? Are the Samsung patents under FRAND? Lots of questions that article failed to cover or explain.

**taylorz_412** · 06-09-2012, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Blujay93

Apple buyers are gonna find that the high prices of any Apple equipment stems from their outrageous use of lawyers.

How can you say that? They are sitting on a mountain of cash

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**equishd** · 06-09-2012, 03:31 PM

i hate all of this nonsense but i hope they do

Ry · 06-09-2012, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Blujay93

Apple buyers are gonna find that the high prices of any Apple equipment stems from their outrageous use of lawyers.

Because iPhones always cost more than Android phones. Lol.

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**chubb** · 06-09-2012, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Ry

Because iPhones always cost more than Android phones. Lol.

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Off contract they do.

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Ry · 06-09-2012, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by chubb

Off contract they do.

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Nice. Now post the off-contract prices for Android phones.

And don't forget to post the price for the 3GS and 4.

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**oldmanjenkins** · 06-09-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by taylorz_412

How can you say that? They are sitting on a mountain of cash

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Because with lawsuits or legal proceedings it will be their multimillion dollar lawyers that will be making the money.

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**chubb** · 06-09-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ry

Nice. Now post the off-contract prices for Android phones.

And don't forget to post the price for the 3GS and 4.

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Too lazy to do that. But I'm sure 90% of them are $550-$650 for new model phones. Exception is the gnex at $399 for the GSM. The GS3 will be around $650-$700 off contract. For 32GB, then add $50-$100 bucks for a 64GB card and you get 96GB for $50 cheaper than a 64GB iPhone.

Edit: Here's a sandisk 64GB for 72.99.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005V7WIA2

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**SirGeorgeKillian** · 06-09-2012, 06:23 PM

I hope Samsung goes for their throat....

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**taylorz_412** · 06-09-2012, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by oldmanjenkins

Because with lawsuits or legal proceedings it will be their multimillion dollar lawyers that will be making the money.

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They are the most valuable company in the WORLD I think they can cover a couple lawyers... Don't get me wrong I'm not sticking up for apple and am not a fanboy of android or iOS I like them equally just sum threads like this make me wanna smash my head of a wall it's business they are doing this because it's the smart thing to do deal with it....end of rage rant...

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Ry · 06-09-2012, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by chubb

Too lazy to do that. But I'm sure 90% of them are $550-$650 for new model phones. Exception is the gnex at $399 for the GSM. The GS3 will be around $650-$700 off contract. For 32GB, then add $50-$100 bucks for a 64GB card and you get 96GB for $50 cheaper than a 64GB iPhone.

Edit: Here's a sandisk 64GB for 72.99.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005V7...idcentral00-20

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Don't dismiss the 3GS at $375 and 4 at $550. The iPhone being much more expensive is such an outdated myth.

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**Irvgotti** · 06-09-2012, 07:43 PM

The iPhone 4 came out in 2010. I hope it wouldn't be more expensive than a new android phone off contract. They all are great phones. All this legal stuff is b.s

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**oldmanjenkins** · 06-09-2012, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by taylorz_412

They are the most valuable company in the WORLD I think they can cover a couple lawyers... Don't get me wrong I'm not sticking up for apple and am not a fanboy of android or iOS I like them equally just sum threads like this make me wanna smash my head of a wall it's business they are doing this because it's the smart thing to do deal with it....end of rage rant...

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But as we know in the court of public opinion, opinions change quickly. Especially when they become one of the 1%. IPhone has become stale even with iPhone 5 coming. It used to be you would combat competitors with better tech but apple just doesn't seem to have any original ideas.

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**metz65** · 06-09-2012, 08:02 PM

So if Samsung tries to shut Apple down with litigation is that ok?

Everyone hates Apple because of litigation says it's BS and to let innovation decide the smartphone wars.

Do we apply a double standard and say it's ok for Samsung? Do we love Samsung for doing the same thing we vilify Apple for? Do two wrongs make a right?

Just curious.

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**kev2126** · 06-09-2012, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Blujay93

Apple buyers are gonna find that the high prices of any Apple equipment stems from their outrageous use of lawyers.

LOL!!!

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**oldmanjenkins** · 06-09-2012, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by metz65

So if Samsung tries to shut Apple down with litigation is that ok?

Everyone hates Apple because of litigation says it's BS and to let innovation decide the smartphone wars.

Do we apply a double standard and say it's ok for Samsung? Do we love Samsung for doing the same thing we vilify Apple for? Do two wrongs make a right?

Just curious.

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Most deff not but Samsung's litigation I think has just been in response to Apple's litigious nature. I think if apple could find a way to sue competitors over the use of the letter "a" they would on the grounds that the letter in question was proprietary and any use without the expressed written consent of Apple is strictly prohibited.

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**coinmanmat** · 06-09-2012, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by metz65

So if Samsung tries to shut Apple down with litigation is that ok?

Everyone hates Apple because of litigation says it's BS and to let innovation decide the smartphone wars.

Do we apply a double standard and say it's ok for Samsung? Do we love Samsung for doing the same thing we vilify Apple for? Do two wrongs make a right?

Just curious.

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Very good point you make here, would Samsung stoop down to Apple's level if its found the iPhone 5 infringes on Sammy's LTE patents? Yes I believe so and its not just because Samsung would want revenge but I think it would also be Samsung wanting to teach Apple a valuable lesson on how to compete as a buisness.

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**nkd** · 06-09-2012, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by metz65

So if Samsung tries to shut Apple down with litigation is that ok?

Everyone hates Apple because of litigation says it's BS and to let innovation decide the smartphone wars.

Do we apply a double standard and say it's ok for Samsung? Do we love Samsung for doing the same thing we vilify Apple for? Do two wrongs make a right?

Just curious.

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When there is a big kid on the block bullying everyone, you need someone to stand up and throw back a punch and knock him down for once. That is not a double standard, it is called teaching someone a lesson. In this case two wrongs do make a right.

**Mac.World** · 06-09-2012, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by oldmanjenkins

It used to be you would combat competitors with better tech but apple just doesn't seem to have any original ideas.

you know, i keep seeing statements like this and anyone that really beleves this is thinking with their emotions and not logic. Apple made the mp3, smartphone, tablet, tv boxtop and ultrabook categories what they are today. Is it a coincidence that Apple happens to dominate all those categories, save for cell phones, in which case it is about even with Samsung. And I don't buy the whole "isheep" mantra. While there are crazy devoted Apple lovers, there def aren't a quarter of a billion of them in this world.

As for original ideas, Jon Ivy has been one of, if not the, most influential designer/engineer within the mobile tech industry in recent memory. You think for one moment that if any other tech company could lure Ivy away from Apple that they wouldn't take the opportunity? How many "ultrabooks" look like the Macbook Air? How many boxtops look like the Apple TV? How many tablets followed the design of the iPad?

I'm not one of the Apple faithful, but I recognize the contributions to the field of tech.