AT&T is now pushing JB update OTA...

**blue_sector** · 01-15-2013, 09:13 PM

Looks like AT&T is no longer requiring Kies to update ICS to JB. You might remember I've complained in the past about the Kies-only nature of the update since I don't have any personal machines running Windows or OSX (and I wasn't going to buy Windows 7 install media just to update my phone), Looks like those complaints are moot now. This afternoon, my phone received an update over WIFI that appears to have taken me to 4.1.1. Download size was only 350MB which is quite a bit smaller than the Kies-supplied update (700+MB, right?). Makes me wonder if the OTA update omitted anything...

**repligation** · 01-15-2013, 09:43 PM

How about a screen shot of your phone os version and build number from your About Device page?

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-15-2013, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by blue_sector

Looks like AT&T is no longer requiring Kies to update ICS to JB. You might remember I've complained in the past about the Kies-only nature of the update since I don't have any personal machines running Windows or OSX (and I wasn't going to buy Windows 7 install media just to update my phone), Looks like those complaints are moot now. This afternoon, my phone received an update over WIFI that appears to have taken me to 4.1.1. Download size was only 350MB which is quite a bit smaller than the Kies-supplied update (700+MB, right?). Makes me wonder if the OTA update omitted anything...

Odd it is that small...

**blue_sector** · 01-15-2013, 10:48 PM

Download was pretty slow...couple hours. It even self-terminated about 83% through although it happily restarted where it left off when I tried to do a manual update via the 'About Device' --> 'Software Update' option. Given the size discrepancy versus JB-over-Kies, I assumed that this was merely a fix for the recent Java security holes.

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-15-2013, 10:58 PM

hmmm...same info as mine. It took 2 hours and was half the size?? Took me about 20 minutes from downloading Kies to upgrade being finished.

**WymanD** · 01-15-2013, 11:10 PM

Cool Beans...downloading now......or should I say..."Cool Jellybeans!!"...

Edit, just finished the download, took maybe 15-20 minutes tops, , 354.64 MB.

**repligation** · 01-15-2013, 11:51 PM

Holy crap, I updated my s3 to 4.1.1 over a month ago via Kies but my wife's phone I left alone on ICS because she really doesn't care that much. Sure enough it is there on hers OTA at 355MB and downloading right now. What the hell did they leave out at half the size?

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-15-2013, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by repligation

Holy crap, I updated my s3 to 4.1.1 over a month ago via Kies but my wife's phone I left alone on ICS because she really doesn't care that much. Sure enough it is there on hers OTA at 355MB and downloading right now. What the hell did they leave out at half the size?

I'm really interested in knowing what was left out also. Since you have two phones upgraded two different ways, I nominate you to search both phones and tell us the difference.

Anyone second that nomination?

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-16-2013, 12:00 AM

And the Samsung page still says this:

This update is available through Windows and Mac computers using the Samsung Kies software application only. This update will not be made available over-the-air.

**chaseclouser** · 01-16-2013, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns

I'm really interested in knowing what was left out also. Since you have two phones upgraded two different ways, I nominate you to search both phones and tell us the difference.

Anyone second that nomination?

I second that

**Puma91** · 01-16-2013, 12:16 PM

Has anyone been able to get the update yet? I had not received an update notification and when I went to check for a software update it said one wasn't available.

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-16-2013, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by chaseclouser

I second that

Then it shall be so! repligation is our new "go to" person on this issue

**Almeuit** · 01-16-2013, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns

I'm really interested in knowing what was left out also. Since you have two phones upgraded two different ways, I nominate you to search both phones and tell us the difference.

Anyone second that nomination?

Originally Posted by Kelly Kearns

And the Samsung page still says this:

This update is available through Windows and Mac computers using the Samsung Kies software application only. This update will not be made available over-the-air.

Not sure. Even the Engadget article doesn't mention the difference.

Sent from my Sprint S3 using AC forums

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-16-2013, 12:27 PM

Yeah, kinda odd, seems like a huge difference in the file size to me...

**superm1** · 01-16-2013, 12:33 PM

I'd bet it's smaller because of the way that an OTA update works vs how a kies update works.

OTA update is a binary patch to the filesystem. If binaries are modified at all it doesn't work.
KIES update is actually a full partition image. The phone wipes the entire partition that contains /system and then flashes the stuff from KIES.

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-16-2013, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by supermario

I'd bet it's smaller because of the way that an OTA update works vs how a kies update works.

OTA update is a binary patch to the filesystem. If binaries are modified at all it doesn't work.
KIES update is actually a full partition image. The phone wipes the entire partition that contains /system and then flashes the stuff from KIES.

Ok, finally..someone speaking a language I can understand about what could be the cause of the big file size difference!

**CrazyCamel369#AC** · 01-16-2013, 03:21 PM

AHH!!! Someone tell me if it's better than the current ty one we got. If it is I'm re-installing the previous version then upgrading via OTA

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-16-2013, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by CrazyCamel369#AC

AHH!!! Someone tell me if it's better than the current ty one we got. If it is I'm re-installing the previous version then upgrading via OTA

It is the same thing, same build number, etc.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747

**dirtbikerr450** · 01-16-2013, 03:26 PM

im so happy for this

thanks

**k6rim** · 01-16-2013, 03:44 PM

Fortunately, the Samsung page is WRONG.
I am downloading the (presumably) JB update right now. (354.64 MB)
Hopefully, it will be a worthwhile update without major bugs.
ATT must think so, since it (finally) has made it available OTA. About time .............

**Kelly Kearns** · 01-16-2013, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by k6rim

Fortunately, the Samsung page is WRONG.
I am downloading the (presumably) JB update right now. (354.64 MB)
Hopefully, it will be a worthwhile update without major bugs.
ATT must think so, since it (finally) has made it available OTA. About time .............

Just last week, the news from AT&T was no OTA and many AT&T high tech employees were surprised with the OTA update.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747

**k6rim** · 01-16-2013, 04:31 PM

Went to my (regular) ATT store about a month ago. Reps there had never heard of either Kies or JB.

Done downloading JB. So far, so good: Swift Key and Nova Launcher still working fine. All seems normal, but time will tell.

**Sailindawg** · 01-16-2013, 04:33 PM

What state do you guys live in that are getting the ATT JB update. I'm in mass. I checked my phone's software update & I get a return that all update servers are offline. I'm running ICS still and I'm on the fence with JB.