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    Question New to Android

    Hello, everybody. After lurking here for about 3 or 4 weeks, I finally made an account today. I'm new to Android, so I have a couple questions I haven't seen answered elsewhere.

    I recently acquired my 1st ever Android device, which is also my 1st ever unlocked mobile phone. Now, I've had several never-locked (or, "factory unlocked") phones before, but my LG P505 Phoenix is the 1st phone I've ever had that was branded (AT&T), and later unlocked. In my case, I purchased this phone used, over the internet. It was advertised as being unlocked, and I have confirmed that it works with a non-AT&T SIM.

    1. Is that all the proof I need that the phone is truly unlocked, and has been unlocked properly? If a phone is "unlocked," can that mean more than 1 thing?
    2. Is it possible to lose my unlock if I flash the ROM?


    Thank you, guys, for any input.
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    1. That should be proof enough.
    2. I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LifesGoodPhoenix View Post
    2. I don't think so.
    Well, I'm not sure how many different ways there are of unlocking a phone (or this phone, specifically). I've already done a factory reset a few times on it, and it's still unlocked. Does that make it any better?
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    Adds confermation to it being unlocked.
    Are you 2.2.2or2.3.4?
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    Default Re: New to Android

    2.2.2

    Edit: I read about the baseband thing with the LG upgrade utility, and wanted to avoid it for now, though I don't really know the significance, yet.
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    The process of rooting won't make you lose your unlock; and according to xda you shouldn't lose it if you flash a rom. You should be fine.

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    Oh yeah, I am rooted as well (superoneclick).

    Are there some phones or unlock methods which are lost with a ROM flash?
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    Not that I've read
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    Ok, good!

    I noticed you guys are saying "you shouldn't lose it" and "I don't think so." Are you just being cautious, so you don't get blamed for my misdeeds?
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    I said it because that's not something I personally have experience with, as I use a CDMA provider so SIM unlock isn't part of my phone tweaking.

    But it's been confirmed on XDA that you won't lose unlock - i say shouldn't because you never know, there may be some weird fluke somewhere.

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    Alright, well you made me feel better. Thanks!

    I'll be back to bug you guys some more.
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    Mostly.
    Partly cuz I'm no dev. I don't know for a fact how some of this stuff works
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    So what are the down sides to upgrading to 2.3.4? I know the baseband gets upgraded, which makes other ROM flashes trickier (at least as I understand it). Anything else? Is it worth it to upgrade?
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    so far just the lock screen lag. over all performance isnt that smooth, but neither was froyo.

    has better battery life is the main thing
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    Funny, I was just wondering about lock screen lag in my phone (2.2). Is it worse in 2.3? Or do you mean that it isn't gone?
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    its worse
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    Oh! So, I guess if I'm happy with the battery life, I should stick to Froyo.
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    You could always get a different recovery and flash cm9 with the appropriate p505 kernel.
    Then you get awesome battery and no lock screen lag.
    I'm just waiting for a good new baseband kernel to go back.
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    So there's no way to downgrade the baseband, huh?

    I'll have to look into the CM9 thing. Do you have a suggested kernel?
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    Yes you can flash old baseband. I don't have time to play that game.
    As for a new baseband kernel ... there is reayne' s and jobans.
    Reayne ' s is stock. Don't know much about it.
    Jobans first release Wifi don't work, data works only if you flash " funny sim version".
    Joban has fixed the Wifi and maybe some other tweaks. But hasn't released it yet. Crossing fingers.
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    So if I keep my old baseband & use CM9, I still need Joban's (unreleased) kernel?
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    No. You would need reaynes new kernel with the baseband patch
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    Ok, thanks!

    Now, as far as backing up, is it enough to use Titanium Backup to back up all user + system apps + data, flash everything, then install & use Titanium Backup to restore everything? Or would I only restore User apps + data?
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    The sim lock is deeper then just a rom setting . Flashing a new rom shouldnt lock nor unlock your sim.
    Although im not 100% sure .. Most logical answer i could think of
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    well if all goes smoothly with flashing a recovery, and it should, id boot into recovery and a make a backup there.
    then use TB to then back up apps , all if you want, doesnt matter now what you back up cuz you have a full backup already thru recovery. the only apps you would HAVE to back up are the apps you want to restore after flashing a rom.

    and if anything goes wrong with flashing a rom or you just dont like it you can boot back into recovery and restore your back up, of what i would assume to be stock root.
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