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    Default what does 'factory reset' do?

    Hi all,
    I have searched but couldn't find any info.

    1) what exactly happened when we do 'factory reset'? What gets restored?

    In other words, if I removed/deleted some bloatware from /system/apps on a rooted phone and if I do a 'factory reset',
    will those come back just as the phone was brand new? Where is this 'backup' stored?

    2) Instead of installing a custom recovery and do a NANDROID backup, will it be the same if I do a bunch
    of 'dd' commands directly from the partitions? Something like the following for a Note 2?

    dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 of=/storage/extSdCard/efs.img bs=4096 (backup /efs)

    dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 of=/storage/extSdCard/system.img bs=4096 (backup /system)

    ...etc..
    Thank you.
    mike
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    Default Re: what does 'factory reset' do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lang1 View Post
    1) what exactly happened when we do 'factory reset'? What gets restored?
    When you preform a factory reset it erases your /data, /cache & /dalvik cache. Anything you haven't sync'd or backed up like your contacts, text messages, various settings, etc will be lost. However as long as you have them sync'd to your Gmail account all will be okay. Always make sure you have your device set to backup to Google under Backup and Restore in Settings. This will keep track of your apps and some settings.

    Best way to avoid trouble is use an application like Helium which DOESN'T require root access to make backups of your apps & data. SMS Backup & Restore can handle SMS messages, again no root required.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lang1 View Post
    In other words, if I removed/deleted some bloatware from /system/apps on a rooted phone and if I do a 'factory reset',
    will those come back just as the phone was brand new? Where is this 'backup' stored?
    If you removed bloatware from /system/apps on a rooted device a factory reset is BAD. NEVER USE THE FACTORY RESET IN SETTINGS ON A ROOTED DEVICE. If your going to do a factory reset from a rooted device, then use the option in your custom recovery. Second, no it won't restore any removed bloat, etc. That is your problem to handle with a backup of the apps or making a Nandroid full system backup. Backups from Titanium, MyBackup, Helium, ClockWorkMod & TWRP are normally kept within a folder on your sdcard/internal storage. If your running Android 4.2 and higher some backups like TWRP can be found in the root level of your device under /data/media/TWRP



    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lang1 View Post
    2) Instead of installing a custom recovery and do a NANDROID backup, will it be the same if I do a bunch
    of 'dd' commands directly from the partitions? Something like the following for a Note 2?

    dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 of=/storage/extSdCard/efs.img bs=4096 (backup /efs)

    dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p13 of=/storage/extSdCard/system.img bs=4096 (backup /system)
    Yes you can do this to do a backup of these locations but honestly its just as easy if not better to just use your custom recovery's backup option instead. It will make a full backup image of your devices important areas to restore in the event of something going wrong or simply wanting to revert to your backup.

    Hope this helps !

    Paul
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    Default Re: what does 'factory reset' do?

    Thank you Paul, I appreciate your reply.

    - I understand the user apps/data parts.

    - why did you say "we should never do factory reset on a rooted phone"?

    - from what you said, factory reset **will not** restore the phone to a factory state. I thought there is another copy of system
    stored somewhere on the phone that it will be used to restore to its factory state.

    Thanks again.
    mike
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    Default Re: what does 'factory reset' do?

    The reason I asked the 'dd' command is that my Note 2 was rooted but I did not install a custom recovery. I use CF Autoroot and it keeps the stock recovery.
    I try not to install CWM or TWRP if I don't need it (more things to go wrong :-) )
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    Default Re: what does 'factory reset' do?

    Reason we don't attempt a factory reset from within the Android OS itself is many people have ended with bricks from this.
    It's just been rule of thumb if your rooted then use the custom recovery to do a factory reset.




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    Paul
    Moderator Team Leader @ Android Central

    I am the Tegra Champ. What this means is that from time to time NVIDIA might send me new products to try out. This will not affect my thoughts, ideas, or opinions about any product that are discussed in the forums. Those are still my own.
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    Default Re: what does 'factory reset' do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul627g View Post
    Reason we don't attempt a factory reset from within the Android OS itself is many people have ended with bricks from this.
    It's just been rule of thumb if your rooted then use the custom recovery to do a factory reset.

    But rooted != custom recovery :-)


    Thanks for the advise.




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    Default Re: what does 'factory reset' do?

    Any preference on CWM vs TRWP?
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    Default Re: what does 'factory reset' do?

    My preference is TWRP. Why?

    Back about two years ago when TWRP hit the scene I really liked what they offered over CWM, I switched and just never looked back.




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    Paul
    Moderator Team Leader @ Android Central

    I am the Tegra Champ. What this means is that from time to time NVIDIA might send me new products to try out. This will not affect my thoughts, ideas, or opinions about any product that are discussed in the forums. Those are still my own.
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    Default Re: what does 'factory reset' do?

    thanks. I'm trying to decide which one I should install to my Note 2. I'm rooted with a stock recovery.

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