Poor Nexus S Sales Figures = Delayed N1 Gingerbread ?

**going_home** · 01-04-2011, 07:47 PM

Anyone seen any sales numbers on the Nexus S yet ?
If they were flying off the shelf I'd think we'd have seen some press on it by now.
I'm guessing the sales figures are underwhelming.
Maybe thats why the Nexus One is still lonely for Gingerbread ?

**Baconator** · 01-04-2011, 07:56 PM

Well if the sales figures are down I think it is because people can't see past the no 4G thing and no SD card. The no 4G doesn't even matter because the Nexus S does 4G speeds. And 16GB of memory is enough memory for anyone. They just need to see that 4G doesn't matter because it is the same on a 3G Nexus S or a 4G MyTouch.

**icebike** · 01-04-2011, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Baconator

And 16GB of memory is enough memory for anyone.

Famous Last Words.

**Baconator** · 01-04-2011, 08:09 PM

Well not for anyone. But for the average user. But then again whoever wants a Nexus S usually is not the average user.

**going_home** · 01-04-2011, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Baconator

Well not for anyone. But for the average user. But then again whoever wants a Nexus S usually is not the average user.

And that my friend was Googles mistake.
They made a niche phone that not even many N1
owners want.
Most N1 owners expected a lot more from the NS than what actually happened.
I know I did.

**Baconator** · 01-04-2011, 08:48 PM

I know what you mean. But sometimes if you use a lot of space you have to learn to try to limit the amount of space you use. 16GB is a lot and I doubt even a non-average user will fill it up. I am a non-average user and it still is a lot for me. A lot of times if you have more than 16GB of stuff on your phone a lot of the stuff that is in there is stuff that you don't use and it won't hurt to delete it. You have to learn to take the junk out of your phone.

**going_home** · 01-04-2011, 08:59 PM

The no SD card thing is definitely a "whatchu talking bout Willis" moment.
But no way to move the curser was the dumbest thing IMHO.
Whose idea was it to leave the track pad off anyways ?
If we wanted a stupid Iphone we'd buy one, know what I mean ?
We are Androids, not iclones.

**Baconator** · 01-04-2011, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by going_home

The no SD card thing is definitely a "whatchu talking bout Willis" moment.
But no way to move the curser was the dumbest thing IMHO.
Whose idea was it to leave the track pad off anyways ?
If we wanted a stupid Iphone we'd buy one, know what I mean ?
We are Androids, not iclones.

Oh yeah I still have problems with that because I came from a Hero with a trackball. It doesn't bother anymore. Hey at least we have 4 touch sensitive buttons. The iPhone, iPad, and iPod only have one and I hate that. I want to go back and I always push the home button.

**Grimmy** · 01-05-2011, 03:11 AM

But no way to move the curser was the dumbest thing IMHO.

I'm guessing you haven't used Gingerbread yet? I used to use the trackball a lot for cursor navigation on my Nexus One. The only thing I honestly miss about it since getting the Nexus S, is it's notification feature.

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**going_home** · 01-05-2011, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Grimmy

I'm guessing you haven't used Gingerbread yet? I used to use the trackball a lot for cursor navigation on my Nexus One. The only thing I honestly miss about it since getting the Nexus S, is it's notification feature.

Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

You guessed wrong.
I had an NS for 7 disappointing days before I returned it.
No track pad and the fact that its barely an upgrade
From the N1 made it not worth a two year contract.

**Grimmy** · 01-05-2011, 11:41 AM

Oh, okay. It's just you said there is "no way to move the curser" when there is a pretty effective way of moving the cursor without a trackball/pad introduced in Gingerbread.

The extra storage is a big enough upgrade for me. I was always having to uninstall apps on the Nexus One. I have all the ones I've previously had to uninstall on the Nexus S now.

**Smokexz** · 01-05-2011, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Baconator

Well if the sales figures are down I think it is because people can't see past the no 4G thing and no SD card. The no 4G doesn't even matter because the Nexus S does 4G speeds. And 16GB of memory is enough memory for anyone. They just need to see that 4G doesn't matter because it is the same on a 3G Nexus S or a 4G MyTouch.

You have to realize, these millions that are contemplating this purchase are not you, they have very little money and do not want to make a mistake. They might need 4g(by the way, it doesn't have that "4g" speed everyone wants anyways) . They might need SD cards for documents or maybe music or entertainment. The camera also lacks a lot of features, maybe they need a camera? Don't assume everyone should be satisfied just because you are satisfied.

Sent from my Nexus S

**going_home** · 01-05-2011, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Grimmy

Oh, okay. It's just you said there is "no way to move the curser" when there is a pretty effective way of moving the cursor without a trackball/pad introduced in Gingerbread.

The extra storage is a big enough upgrade for me. I was always having to uninstall apps on the Nexus One. I have all the ones I've previously had to uninstall on the Nexus S now.

Really ?
There's an effective way to move the curser ?
Hows that ?

Really though I have a MyTouch 4g now,
there's no way I'd go back to the NS now.
This is the fastest phone out for TMO.

**rb81** · 01-05-2011, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by going_home

Really ?
There's an effective way to move the curser ?
Hows that ?

Really though I have a MyTouch 4g now,
there's no way I'd go back to the NS now.
This is the fastest phone out for TMO.

I think they have mt4g forum on android central...

**fangorious** · 01-05-2011, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by going_home

Really ?
There's an effective way to move the curser ?
Hows that ?

When you tap in a text field a big cursor dragging appears (the picture on top, the one on the bottom is for copy/paste). You just drag that giant carat around and the cursor follows it.

**Baconator** · 01-05-2011, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Smokexz

You have to realize, these millions that are contemplating this purchase are not you, they have very little money and do not want to make a mistake. They might need 4g(by the way, it doesn't have that "4g" speed everyone wants anyways) . They might need SD cards for documents or maybe music or entertainment. The camera also lacks a lot of features, maybe they need a camera? Don't assume everyone should be satisfied just because you are satisfied.

Sent from my Nexus S

I understand. And I don't want anyone to think like me. I wouldn't want anyone to ever think like me. Everyone sees things different. All I want to say to people contemplating this phone is to try it if it is for you get it. If not then don't.

**going_home** · 01-05-2011, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by fangorious

When you tap in a text field a big cursor dragging appears (the picture on top, the one on the bottom is for copy/paste). You just drag that giant carat around and the cursor follows it.

Yeah I saw that but its still not as precise as a track pad when it comes
to getting the curser in the exact spot you want it.
And that was actually the straw that broke the camels back after
a week of using a NS.
It is a nice phone but not nice enough to waste a two year contract on.
But then neither is the MT4G.

**bclapper** · 01-13-2011, 03:24 PM

I have to say I agree that no 4G or SD is hardly an issue for me. I'm usually on wifi and the 3G in Columbus, Ohio works very quickly. As for the SD expansion I agree 16 GB is plenty for me and I'd say I require more than the average user (not by a lot though). And honeycomb won't have any hard inputs period, let alone a trackball so get used to it. I know it's starting just for tablets but honeycomb will be on phones eventually.

**KU Kitch** · 01-14-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by going_home

Yeah I saw that but its still not as precise as a track pad when it comes
to getting the curser in the exact spot you want it.
And that was actually the straw that broke the camels back after
a week of using a NS.
It is a nice phone but not nice enough to waste a two year contract on.
But then neither is the MT4G.

After having the first 3 iphones, the trackball of the N1 was nice, but I guess I was used to tapping around to get places. Frankly, Android is much better at this than iOS as you have to hold and get the magnifier to drag to certain spots in iOS, instant tap is nice. Personally, I also find that the cursor works very well for moving around and find that both my Vibrant and NS have been on par with my N1.

The screen is leaps and bounds better, the vibrate is much better and I don't mind the plastic much. The soft-touch material was nicer, but not having it is alright. People who say samsungs seem cheap must not ever use iphones as those are also plastic and I can't say there's much difference beyond removable backs. I think they're all nice, but for my experience the NS is the best of the group, having owned them all

**brucewayne** · 01-15-2011, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by going_home

You guessed wrong.
I had an NS for 7 disappointing days before I returned it.
No track pad and the fact that its barely an upgrade
From the N1 made it not worth a two year contract.

I think you're in the wrong area, try the MT4G section.

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**Droid800** · 01-15-2011, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Smokexz

They might need 4g(by the way, it doesn't have that "4g" speed everyone wants anyways) .

What speeds are you getting? The speeds on the Nexus S are IDENTICAL to my MT4G, and it will remain that way for a little while.

**Johhnyred23** · 01-18-2011, 05:53 PM

hi i now own a one and a s. i must say, that the s look awesome and the screen is great.but the build of htc is just awesome i might would have not got the s if gingerbread was on the one. but i want the blk. status bar and new ui tweeks.i hope the next s is by htc ,but black, not that bronze color.