1. Jay Holm's Avatar
    I'm curious, if LTE is already installed at a cell tower, what is involved in upgrading it to 20x20 Wideband LTE?

    Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile
    01-29-2014 07:58 AM
  2. dpham00's Avatar
    Your phone would have to support 20x20mhz at full speed. The s4 is a cat 3 device which supports speeds up to 100mbps. The Note 3 is a cat 4 device and supports speeds up to 150mbps. TMobile 20x20mhz supports speeds up to 147mbps.

    So you can use your s4 up to 100mbps.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    01-29-2014 08:13 AM
  3. Jay Holm's Avatar
    But I'm curious what's involved in upping a cell towers spectrum to 20x20? Is it costly, timely, complicated?

    Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile
    01-29-2014 08:22 AM
  4. dpham00's Avatar
    But I'm curious what's involved in upping a cell towers spectrum to 20x20? Is it costly, timely, complicated?

    Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile
    The only way spectrum can be acquired is either through the government or through another entity that bought spectrum from the government. Also spectrum is sold by cma (cellular market area), or sometimes multiple cma's are combined when sold. But the point being a carrier might have 20x20mhz in one cma but not in another.

    Now, assuming that the carrier has 20x20mhz spectrum in your area, then they may need to upgrade the cell tower equipment to support it as well as the backhaul which supplies the cell tower.

    On Verizon, the backhaul is 150mbps, but divided into Verizon's 2 bands. So even though Verizon aws 20x20mhz is capable of 150mbps, it is limited by the backhaul. TMobile doesn't need to broadcast lte on multiple bands yet though they will do so once they deploy band 12.

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    01-29-2014 08:48 AM
  5. Jay Holm's Avatar
    Do you think there's any realistic chance of T-Mobile's S5 having the 700mhz band 12 support?

    Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile
    01-29-2014 09:42 AM
  6. Almeuit's Avatar
    Do you think there's any realistic chance of T-Mobile's S5 having the 700mhz band 12 support?

    Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile
    I'd say so. There are people taking advantage of the 20x20 LTE in Texas at the moment.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Note 3 using AC Forums.
    01-29-2014 09:46 AM
  7. Jay Holm's Avatar
    Yeah, I heard there getting speeds as high as 90+ in Dallas! Very exciting! I wonder how much longer til more markets get the 20x20 LTE???

    Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile
    01-29-2014 10:01 AM
  8. Almeuit's Avatar
    Yeah, I heard there getting speeds as high as 90+ in Dallas! Very exciting! I wonder how much longer til more markets get the 20x20 LTE???

    Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile
    Hopefully soon. Here is a 20x20 test from a user in Dallas.

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    01-29-2014 11:24 AM
  9. Jay Holm's Avatar
    Any idea what smartphone was used to get that 107mb/s speed? S4 is Cat 3 LTE, only capable of reaching speeds of 100mb/s.

    Posted using Android Central App on my Samsung Galaxy S4 T-Mobile
    01-29-2014 11:50 AM
  10. KTKareen's Avatar
    Most likely a LG G2

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using AC Forums mobile app
    01-29-2014 11:54 AM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    G2,note 3, nexus 5, g flex, tab 3, z1s all support wide band lte

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    01-29-2014 06:33 PM
  12. georgewillow's Avatar
    The first screenshot with 95 down was my iphone 5s. The second one was another persons so not sure. I have a nexus 5 too that got over 100 from inside my house.


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    01-30-2014 07:34 PM
  13. georgewillow's Avatar
    Here's my N5

    http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/718119064

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
    01-30-2014 07:37 PM

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