1. Almeuit's Avatar
    http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobi...d-lte-end-2014

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    03-13-2014 08:34 AM
  2. raino's Avatar
    Wait...they're refarming 2G to LTE? What happened to UMTS 1900?
    03-13-2014 08:50 AM
  3. Bigballer's Avatar
    TMobile, the only carrier that gets better day by day.
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    03-13-2014 09:09 AM
  4. dpham00's Avatar
    What band would this be?

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    03-13-2014 09:15 AM
  5. raino's Avatar
    What band would this be?
    Second paragraph in,

    T-Mobile is now kicking off a major new program to upgrade its 2G/EDGE network with 4G LTE...The upgrade will provide customers who currently experience 2G/EDGE coverage new access to 4G LTE
    So maybe they're planning a simultaneous refarming of PCS to UMTS and thus redundant AWS to LTE. When I first read it, I thought they were straight refarming PCS to LTE.
    03-13-2014 09:54 AM
  6. dpham00's Avatar
    So should be band 2 then. I think a number of tmobile phones support band 2 lte already

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    03-13-2014 09:59 AM
  7. sierrajinx9's Avatar
    This will help and hurt! Those living on the outskirts of town will now get better data coverage.. but those people generally have 3G phones and rely on that 2G back up when they are hitting the edge of coverage.... Those phones will thus become 3G ONLY Devices... Those with LTE Devices will benefit most...

    Ultimately, it does not matter how many customers or what kind of contracts they have... They need COVERAGE.. and not just Minor coverage with a MAJOR amount of roaming agreements.... they need Actual HOME Coverage, Because like i, i travel between 2 cities, i road trip within the state.. and a lot of times, my phone is a paper weight in between cities.... Where others have coverage everywhere
    03-13-2014 01:02 PM
  8. Almeuit's Avatar
    I did miss this at the bottom of the press release.

    T-Mobile has taken legal action demanding that Verizon cease and desist the carriers network map advertising, arguing that Verizon has cherry-picked a single network technology to depict in its ads rather than accurately reflecting the many technologies widely in use today. T-Mobile reaches over 230 million people nationwide with 4G HSPA+, which provides 4G coverage in many locations where LTE has not yet been rolled out. This is in addition to T-Mobiles nationwide 4G LTE coverage.

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    03-13-2014 01:30 PM
  9. sierrajinx9's Avatar
    They took maps from TMOBILE back when you could select what the map showed... You could have it show just voice coverage, Just Home Network, just 2g, just 3g, Just LTE or all.... They Selected to JUST SHOW LTE Coverage... But then used the map to say they TMOBILE has no Coverage.... rather then depicting it as a 4G LTE Map
    03-13-2014 01:35 PM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    They took maps from TMOBILE back when you could select what the map showed... You could have it show just voice coverage, Just Home Network, just 2g, just 3g, Just LTE or all.... They Selected to JUST SHOW LTE Coverage... But then used the map to say they TMOBILE has no Coverage.... rather then depicting it as a 4G LTE Map
    Yeah I just wonder how T-Mobile can fight it since they list their maps as LTE coverage. Will be interesting to see..

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    03-13-2014 02:20 PM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    It clearly says 4GLTE coverage... Will be interesting to see.

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    03-13-2014 02:47 PM
  12. Bigballer's Avatar
    So when they throttle you back after you went over your monthly allowance of data, does it revert back to EDGE or a "throttled" 4G?
    03-13-2014 03:06 PM
  13. dpham00's Avatar
    So when they throttle you back after you went over your monthly allowance of data, does it revert back to EDGE or a "throttled" 4G?
    My understanding is it is 4g network but throttled to 2g speeds

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    03-13-2014 03:11 PM
  14. yfan's Avatar
    Yeah I just wonder how T-Mobile can fight it since they list their maps as LTE coverage. Will be interesting to see..
    My guess is that T-Mobile is claiming that Verizon is trying to make 4G synonymous with LTE through their ads, and that's deceptive advertising. So while Verizon's claim is technically correct, it is misrepresenting its competitive advantage by leaving out coverage of other networks with speeds comparable to LTE.
    03-13-2014 03:55 PM
  15. raichur0xx0rz's Avatar
    My guess is that T-Mobile is claiming that Verizon is trying to make 4G synonymous with LTE through their ads, and that's deceptive advertising. So while Verizon's claim is technically correct, it is misrepresenting its competitive advantage by leaving out coverage of other networks with speeds comparable to LTE.
    Eh... that then goes way back... like when T-Mobile was "attacked" for saying they have 4G when it was really HSPA+...

    Gray area haha.
    03-13-2014 04:18 PM
  16. sierrajinx9's Avatar
    T-Mobile is referring to a FEW select commercials that DO NOT say "4G" or "LTE" they just say Coverage! T-Mobile doesn't have a claim as long as atleast ONCE in the commerical TMOBILES MAP is labeled LTE and the words 4G or LTE are named, or pictured in regards to verizons map
    03-13-2014 06:14 PM
  17. yfan's Avatar
    Note that T-Mobile hasn't actually sued VZW. They have taken legal action, which is to say sent them a cease-and-desist letter. But they haven't actually filed a lawsuit.
    03-13-2014 06:23 PM
  18. dpham00's Avatar
    Note that T-Mobile hasn't actually sued VZW. They have taken legal action, which is to say sent them a cease-and-desist letter. But they haven't actually filed a lawsuit.
    Verizon would just modify it just enough to satisfy the legal requirements

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    03-13-2014 08:41 PM
  19. yfan's Avatar
    Verizon would just modify it just enough to satisfy the legal requirements
    Eh. Under current law, I don't think there is anything for Verizon to modify. I quite suspect this is a PR move to draw attention. And it's fine as a PR move, but I don't think it has any actual legal value.

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    03-13-2014 09:03 PM
  20. Almeuit's Avatar
    Eh. Under current law, I don't think there is anything for Verizon to modify. I quite suspect this is a PR move to draw attention. And it's fine as a PR move, but I don't think it has any actual legal value.

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    Yeah I think this as well.

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    03-14-2014 08:16 AM
  21. sierrajinx9's Avatar
    I will be interested to see what TMOBILE Will do once they AX EDGE... Will they throttle you back to 4G HSPA+ or just throttle you "Like 2G" speeds
    03-16-2014 08:06 PM

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