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  1. Old Stoneface's Avatar
    Except that now you've provided an API to get at the SIM card, which the carriers don't want, and understandably so.
    I guess you missed the parts where "...the delivery and installation of [the app] would be controlled by the wireless provider, authenticates itself via the API." It would be only the provider's own app which would be granted the necessary access, for the purpose of facilitating WiFi calling connections.

    Jim
    08-11-2014 12:36 PM
  2. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    I guess you missed the parts where "...the delivery and installation of [the app] would be controlled by the wireless provider, authenticates itself via the API." It would be only the provider's own app which would be granted the necessary access, for the purpose of facilitating WiFi calling connections.

    Jim
    I didn't miss a thing. But I think you missed the part where someone from XDA cracks it in 5 minutes.
    08-11-2014 01:49 PM
  3. Old Stoneface's Avatar
    I didn't miss a thing. But I think you missed the part where someone from XDA cracks it in 5 minutes.
    And the difference between somebody from XDA cracking that vs. cracking what's already there is...?

    Jim
    08-11-2014 02:25 PM
  4. npaladin-2000's Avatar
    And the difference between somebody from XDA cracking that vs. cracking what's already there is...?

    Jim
    Is that so far it's so low-level and so integrated into the OS that no one's been able to crack it. But if you leave an API open for a program to talk to, that makes it a lot easier.
    08-11-2014 02:41 PM
  5. raptir's Avatar
    Is that so far it's so low-level and so integrated into the OS that no one's been able to crack it. But if you leave an API open for a program to talk to, that makes it a lot easier.
    All this talk made me realize that the difference between Android and iOS is open source vs closed source. If it was to be integrated into Android it would have to be open sourced. By integrating it into the T-Mobile specific devices you don't need to make it open source so it's much easier to keep locked down.
    08-11-2014 03:33 PM
  6. bberrynewbie84's Avatar
    I switched from vzw to T-Mobile and so far I love it but my first big test comes today,I'm taking a two hour road trip and I wanna see how good my service will be while on the road.
    08-14-2014 08:19 AM
  7. raptir's Avatar
    I switched from vzw to T-Mobile and so far I love it but my first big test comes today,I'm taking a two hour road trip and I wanna see how good my service will be while on the road.
    Hope it works well for you. I am still happy with T-Mobile due to the price/unlimited data but you do need to be willing to accept that in some cases (like road trips) you may need to prepare to not have data service.
    08-14-2014 09:18 AM
  8. bbycrts's Avatar
    Given that only T-Mobile is crowing about it so far, I have a feeling that Apple is specifically implementing T-Mobile WiFi calling. Otherwise Sprint and Republic would be jumping all over it marketing-wise. Particularly Republic, since they're the only ones that have managed to get the WiFi<->Cell handoffs right.





    We said phone, not child's toy. Seriously, the Avant is a very low-end device that someone used to an M8, GS5, or G3 wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.
    Phone snobs...gotta love them. My son loves his Galaxy Avant.
    08-20-2014 12:46 AM
  9. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Hey folks, let's keep the discussion on topic, shall we? Thanks!
    08-20-2014 01:46 AM
  10. busa2006's Avatar
    I moved a year ago from Verizon I'm glad

    Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
    09-27-2015 08:18 AM
  11. RicKaysen's Avatar
    Regarding T-Mobile having issues in tall buildings....I work in a high rise on Wall Street and was previously a Verizon customer. I was constantly frustrated by the lack of a cell signal at my desk when, one day, I noticed a co-worker right next to me had a full five bar signal. He was on T-Mobile. I am too now. True, some rural areas are spotty, but the same can be said for any carrier. At one time or another, I've used all four of the major carriers and none of them are perfect everywhere, all of the time. (Sprint was the worst)
    09-30-2015 09:33 AM
  12. PhiPsi32's Avatar
    ^^^^ Yes, it can be very odd. For many, many years I got the best service from Verizon. After a recent relocation, Verizon is the worst provider at home and at the office. Cell coverage and mobile data is ridiculously good with T-Mobile.
    10-01-2015 10:45 PM
  13. delrey1900's Avatar
    I just switched from VZW to TMO about a month ago. I only have issues with TMO in a couple of places. And I agree with building penetration, it sucks. If I had to sum up the difference between the two: VZW has an even coverage and with just enough signal to get you by. TMO signal is either non-existent or really strong. TMO calls are also clearer and it's LTE is way faster than VZW's. On most days, TMO is just fine. It's just when I venture out in the middle of nowhere is when I wish I still had VZW. Also, I must add that I do have a beef with TMO on their coverage map. It show's great LTE coverage at my office, but I can't even get a solid 2G signal to make a call or send/receive a text. But their map shows it being in great LTE coverage. I've contacted them about it but I have yet to hear back about it but I doubt I will.
    10-02-2015 08:26 PM
  14. PhiPsi32's Avatar
    Yeah, I gave T-Mobile my home address. The phone agent said, yeah, you have great coverage there. I start service . . . and no not so much. I call back and phone agent is like, no, coverage there is really bad, sorry. WTF!
    10-02-2015 09:00 PM
  15. bkeaver's Avatar
    Yeah, I gave T-Mobile my home address. The phone agent said, yeah, you have great coverage there. I start service . . . and no not so much. I call back and phone agent is like, no, coverage there is really bad, sorry. WTF!
    Sorry to hear that but that is exactly why there is a test drive program so you can test and see for yourself how the coverage is where you live, work and play.

    I will say this their network has improved 110% since last year and they keep improving it all the time..

    Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
    10-03-2015 07:42 PM
  16. PhiPsi32's Avatar
    Yeah, but I still like T-Mobile. As someone who travels abroad, the international service is a big win. And at work I get great coverage, much better than Verizon. T-Mobile has been very good for me.
    10-03-2015 07:47 PM
  17. dadathepanda's Avatar
    Switched from Vz to tmo three months ago and overall I'm satisfied. I say overall because of the signal issues. I live in NYC metro area and signal is good here but once you go rural, you lose a lot of coverage. Over the summer I and wife went to Lake George in NY and for the whole weekend the only connection with the outside world was when we were on WiFi... Absolutely no coverage up there.
    But the cost savings compared to Vz more than make for the occasional dead zone when travelling into really rural areas.

    The panda has spoken
    10-15-2015 02:18 PM
  18. phillymade's Avatar
    Made the call Friday to switch, ordered the V10 and should have it Tuesday. I have noticed my data speeds on VZ have been dropping and have been on 3G more than normal. I'm in DE and hope the coverage is decent, last year TMO only had 2X where I live, now they are said to have LTE, guess I'll find out. Fingers crossed
    11-15-2015 12:45 PM
  19. delrey1900's Avatar
    Made the call Friday to switch, ordered the V10 and should have it Tuesday. I have noticed my data speeds on VZ have been dropping and have been on 3G more than normal. I'm in DE and hope the coverage is decent, last year TMO only had 2X where I live, now they are said to have LTE, guess I'll find out. Fingers crossed
    Does the area in question on the map have customer backed coverage symbol (Hexagon with an exclamation point)? If so, you should be fine. If not, be careful.
    11-18-2015 06:58 PM
  20. gibbga's Avatar
    Switched from VZW about 2 weeks ago and so far, so good. I've been very pleased so far actually. The only reason I had not switched yet (been w/ VZW for about 15 years) was poor coverage in rural SE TN where my family lives. However, the Tmo coverage map recently began showing 4G coverage being fairly extensive in my hometown now. So, I decided to give it a go.

    I got to test the 4G service there when I visited over T-giving. Everyone warned me, the Tmo map lies, don't believe it, etc, etc, etc. To my surprise, Tmo blew it out of the water and that map of the area was dang near perfect. I kept my VZW line active during the trip too because I didn't want to lose my current contract until I knew how Tmo would work out. While that was the reason, it gave me a great opportunity to test the coverages against one another. I spent a good bit of time at a hospital in the town next door and Tmo had 4G compared to VZW w/ 3G. At my parent's home both had 4G though a speedtest showed Tmo w/ a 4 to 1 speed advantage. So, I definitely felt better about cutting off the VZW siphon from my wallet.
    11-30-2015 11:08 PM
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