[nanachkh]

This is what I've removed without issues-


app sharing
blockbuster
internet
city id
fm radio widget
friend stream widget
music widget
stocks widget
twitter widget
flickr
friend streaming
gmail
google search
facebook for htc sence
fm radio
footprints
htc footprints widget
news
news widget
mobile im
mobile instant messaging widget
music
screen brightness widget
streaming media player
sync widget
peep
kindle
android live wallpapers
live wallpaper picker
magic smoke wallpapers
htc sense live wallpaper
vcast media manager
slacker
stocks
talk
tune wiki
vcast apps
music visualization wallpaper
visual vm
vz navigator
bitbop
lets golf 2
rhapsody
rockband

[Forgetful]

I'm getting the same Rosie errors...

[3coup3]

Anybody working on the various weather apps? Only the widget is on the safe list but there are several .apk files supporting the standalone app as well. Who knew downloading a 5 day forecast was so tough.

[Cory Streater]

Cory...great info. Do you have a list like this for the Droid Pro? It sure would be beneficial to a lot of Pro users. Thanks.

Moto is a different animal, but I'll see if one of the Advisers can take this on.

I apparently removed something I wasn't supposed to. On the Add Widget screen when I select Browse all HTC widgets I get an error saying "Sorry! The application Rosie Utility (process com.htc.RosieUtility) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. And there's a Force Close button.

right under the Browse HTC widgets is a green bar icon with an x in it. Label reads: 80.0dip HTC. Selecting that gives me the same error message.

I am able to select every other widget without a problem.

The Rosie.apk and rosie.odex are still in the system/app directory. I did move a few HTC widgets that I'll never use to the bloat folder on the SD card.

Thoughts??


Edit I moved the HTC widget files back into the APP directory but the problem still persists.

I'm getting the same Rosie errors...

This is why:

When you move an app (and ODEX if applicable) file, from /system/app to the SD card, the permissions change from rw-r--r-- (to) --rwxr-x. The owner/group changes from root/root to system/sdcard_rw. The app disappears from the app drawer and all is good.

Now, lets say you move them back for some reason:

• When you move them back, the permissions remain what they were on the SD card.
• The apps (e.g., VZ Nav) will not show up in the app drawer - even after a reboot.
• You have to put the permissions back to rw-r--r-- and then reboot before they will show up in the app drawer again.
• If it's Sense related (e.g., one of the widgets), you MUST go into settings > applications > manage applications > HTC Sense > and clear data; otherwise, they will not show up in the widget pick list. After you do so, Sense will revert back to the out of the box config; including wallpapers, widgets, etc.
• The owner/group of these files will remain system/sdcard_rw, but that doesn't seem to have any negative impact.

The best way to change the permissions - is to use Root Explorer.

1. Move your apps from the SD card to your /system/app folder.
2. If it isn't already, mount the folder as R/W
3. Press down on the file you want to change the permissions on then select permissions from the popup. If you get an error that it isn't read/write, then you didn't mount the folder.
4. Next, you should get a popup that allows you to change permissions. Change them as follows:

ADB should also be able to do this, but no time for me to try that at the moment.

[bosscib]

I'm getting the same Rosie error when trying to go HTC Widgets. I checked all of the apps in System/Apps, and they're all rw-r-rr. I didn't move anything back to System from the SD card either. Here is what I put on my SD card:

Blockbuster_htc.apk
CityID.apk
com.htc.FMRadioWidget.apk
com.htc.FMRRadioWidget.odex
com.htc.FriendStreamWidget.apk
com.htc.FriendStreamWidget.odex
com.htc.StockWidget.apk
com.htc.StockWidget.odex
com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk
com.htc.TwitterWidget.odex
Flickr.apk
Flickr.odex
HtcTwitter.apk
HtcTwitter.odex
Kindle-OEMxxxxxx
VCast.apk
VzNav.apk
VZW_BitBop.apk
VZW_Golf.apk
VZW_Rhapsody.apk
VZW_RockbandStub.apk

I thought I only moved ones from your list, but I may have been mistaken. Any other thoughts?

[Cory Streater]

I'm getting the same Rosie error when trying to go HTC Widgets. I checked all of the apps in System/Apps, and they're all rw-r-rr.

Is that a typo?

They should be rw-r--r--

Also, do a reboot once you are done.

[Cory Streater]

P.S. You must do this step also:

[*] If it's Sense related (e.g., one of the widgets), you MUST go into settings > applications > manage applications > HTC Sense > and clear data; otherwise, they will not show up in the widget pick list. After you do so, Sense will revert back to the out of the box config; including wallpapers, widgets, etc.

[bosscib]

Yeah, that was a typo. I'll try your other step too - thanks.

Edit - that last step worked. I figured my widgets may get messed up, but some of them seem to have been deleted (clock, weather, etc). I'm sure I'll figure it out. This is all new to me. Thanks again.

[madroix]

I have followed the instructions you posted here and have also tried many other methods but I cannot get City ID back on my Thunderbolt. I am currently running Das Bamf rom and the basic debloat before that. This is giving me fits man. It has been two weeks and for some reason I just can't get it back on the phone. Suggestions?

[dirk4201258]

So is it possible to hook into my comp (without root) and open the directory and just delete these files like blockbuster, city id, bitbop, vz navigator etc??

[saberwalk]

Anybody working on the various weather apps? Only the widget is on the safe list but there are several .apk files supporting the standalone app as well. Who knew downloading a 5 day forecast was so tough.

Just moved them all to the sd card then restarted. got htc.bgp service has stopped error, but could be cause I also moved twitter. Will see.

[saberwalk]

Okay, followed the following step from Cory and everything seems okay after removing all weather related apks and widgets:
[*] If it's Sense related (e.g., one of the widgets), you MUST go into settings > applications > manage applications > HTC Sense > and clear data; otherwise, they will not show up in the widget pick list. After you do so, Sense will revert back to the out of the box config; including wallpapers, widgets, etc.

[saberwalk]

Never mind. Still getting com.htc.bgp error. Not sure if it is related to weather or twitter so will restore nandroid and go more slowly.

[saberwalk]

Okay. Restored nandroid backup to rooted stock rom, then deleted weather related apps and widgets only. immediately got com.htc.bgp error. Also loaded weatherbug elite as a replacement so it could be the combination. Settles it for me though.

[Steven57]

I successfully rooted. ShootMe and Root Explorer both work, although ShootMe is the only thing that shows up in Super User. Got the BusyBox as Titanium instructed, but still won't access root. IDEAS?

[Steven57]

I successfully rooted. ShootMe and Root Explorer both work, although ShootMe is the only thing that shows up in Super User. Got the BusyBox as Titanium instructed, but still won't access root. IDEAS?

Figured it out. Had to do reboot and then still had to run BusyBox. After reboot all programs showed up in Super User.

[Steven57]

Found 2 more things out. The free version of Titanium "backed up" everything, but when I did some file renaming in Root Explorer and did a reboot I found out that Titanium didn't do any backups or it lost the back up that it did. Get what you pay for? Also, renamed VCast and the app is still functioning even after reboot. Renamed it "VCast.apk.crap"

[Cory Streater]

Okay. Restored nandroid backup to rooted stock rom, then deleted weather related apps and widgets only. immediately got com.htc.bgp error. Also loaded weatherbug elite as a replacement so it could be the combination. Settles it for me though.

Weather Widgets are on the list. The weather app itself is not. It's integrated into Sense.

Found 2 more things out. The free version of Titanium "backed up" everything, but when I did some file renaming in Root Explorer and did a reboot I found out that Titanium didn't do any backups or it lost the back up that it did. Get what you pay for? Also, renamed VCast and the app is still functioning even after reboot. Renamed it "VCast.apk.crap"

I have never had any luck with that app. I would do Nandroid backups via ROM Manager instead.

[saberwalk]

Doh! (palm to forehead). Yeah but it was fun experimenting.

[Cory Streater]

Lol tell me about it. Don't think for a second I haven't been in the FC loop in my Android past

[SamOliver]

I just tried to put all the apps I deleted back into the "app" folder (because I need to exchange my phone) but after I did this I got error messages and now my phone won't reboot. I think where I went wrong was hitting "select all" from my replacement Thunderbolts "app" folder and pasting it into the "app" folder on my defective Thunderbolt. I thought that it would be quicker because it would just replace all the apps that I deleted... apparently I was wrong. Was that a $700 mistake, or is there anyway to recover, or even turn on, my Thunderbolt?!?! Someone please help!

Edit: Never mind, I'd never done a recovery from clockworkmod recovery before. How do I donate to ClockworkMod? They saved me from a heart attack.

[tonydfx]

So just adding ".old" to the end of file name makes is "dead" and never starts up no matter what? Including removing the icon?

We don't need to literally move a file when killing bloatware?

[Cory Streater]

Correct. Only move apps if it makes you feel good. There is plenty of space on the TBolt that you don't need to move things. At best, you will save about 175MB.

[indymeh]

removed backup assistant with no problems here...

[Cory Streater]

removed backup assistant with no problems here...

Interesting.

I would still recommend people avoid this.