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    Arrow Thunderbolt: Apps that are safe to remove once rooted (and how to put them back!)

    Please read carefully and proceed with caution

    If you are only looking for the lists, feel free to scroll down to them. That said, there is some very important info before the lists, that I would strongly encourage you read.

    This list has been created based on my prior experiences with a variety of devices. I am very confident that the Verizon Bloatware, Live Wallpapers, and Widgets listed below can be safely renamed/moved. I am somewhat confident that the HTC apps can also be safely removed based on pervious experience with both the EVO and Incredible. That said, this is a new device with an updated version of Sense. If you do not want to be a test case, you should wait for others to confirm these apps are safe to remove. Do not throw stones at me if something goes wrong.

    Before you begin:
    • Read this procedure to learn how to move files around.
    • Before you start making changes, I would strongly recommend backing up your device with a program like Titanium Backup (also in the market).
    • All of the files below are in /system/app.
    • The most popular file explorer for accessing and moving these files is called Root Explorer. The thread above shows you screen by screen how to use it.
    • Do not delete files. Either:
      1. Renaming them from <filename.apk> to <filename.apk.old>
      2. Use thread refrenced above to help you learn how to move them. Historically, on other phones, OTA updates have failed if apps don't exist. The system folder had to be exactly the way it was when the phone shipped.

    • Before you rename or move an app in the /system/app folder, check the list below. If it is not listed, or you are unsure if it is safe to modify, please ask first. To be safe, I would only remove the apps listed below, until it is updated.
    • If an APK file also has an associated ODEX file, the ODEX can be renamed/moved also.
    • Do not remove any file starting with VzWBA (related to Verizon Backup Manager). Your TB will croak.

    The following is a must read if you need to put an app back!

    When you move an app (and ODEX if applicable) file, from /system/app to the SD card, the permissions change from rw-r--r-- (to) --rwxr-x. The owner/group changes from root/root to system/sdcard_rw. The app disappears from the app drawer and all is good.

    Now, lets say you move them back for some reason:

    • When you move them back, the permissions remain what they were on the SD card.
    • The apps (e.g., VZ Nav) will not show up in the app drawer - even after a reboot.
    • You have to put the permissions back to rw-r--r-- and then reboot before they will show up in the app drawer again.
    • If it's Sense related (e.g., one of the widgets), you MUST go into settings > applications > manage applications > HTC Sense > and clear data; otherwise, they will not show up in the widget pick list. After you do so, Sense will revert back to the out of the box config; including wallpapers, widgets, etc.
    • The owner/group of these files will remain system/sdcard_rw, but that doesn't seem to have any negative impact.

    The best way to change the permissions - is to use Root Explorer.

    1. Move your apps from the SD card to your /system/app folder.
    2. If it isn't already, mount the folder as R/W
    3. Press down on the file you want to change the permissions on then select permissions from the popup. If you get an error that it isn't read/write, then you didn't mount the folder.
    4. Next, you should get a popup that allows you to change permissions. Change them as follows:

    Required file permissions if you need to move something back:


    ADB should also be able to do this, but no time for me to try that at the moment.

    Now for the The List(s):


    Do Not Remove:


    Verizon Applications:


    HTC Widgets:


    Wallpapers:


    Other:


    Notes:
    • There will be others, I'm sure, but I won't be the first to try.
    • If there are additional apps that you have successfully renamed or moved, please post them in this thread.

    Suggested alternatives for removed apps:
    • Instead of the built in browser use Dolphin HD.
    • Use Google Maps with Navigation instead of VZ Navigator.
    • Buy apps through the Amazon MP3 store instead of the VCast music app.
    • Convert movies using DVD Catalyst 3, then transfer to your SD card instead of using the VCast video app.
    • For file browsing try using Root Explorer.
    • Search AppBrain for a free caller ID - instead of the subscription based CityID app.
    • Instead of the Verizon IM client search AppBrain for an IM client app and/or stick to the built in Gtalk application.
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    Arrow Thunderbolt: Apps that are safe to remove once rooted.

    A lot of people root their phone's because they want to remove that pesky bloatware. After they've rooted (Either with their Mac or with their PC), they often ask, "Now how do I move the bloatware?" This procedure answers that question in detail. I use a file explorer called "Root Explorer" in this post because it's the most popular app when it comes to folder mounting and file manipulation. It's a paid app and will cost you a double tall latte.

    Post #2 will walk you through the process of using Super Manager another file explorer that will also accomplish the job.

    Also, before you go all crazy moving stuff, make sure you read the Thunderbolt: Apps that are safe to remove once rooted thread. Please.

    Steps 1 & 2: Download, install, and open Root Explorer:


    Steps 3 - 5: Use Root Explorer to get to the bloatware:


    Steps 6 - 8: Select the bloatware you want to move and click move (don't forget to read this first!):


    Steps 9 - 11: Navigate to the sdcard -- where the bloatware will be moved to:


    Steps 12 - 14: Create a new folder on your SD card -- to park those files -- and then paste/move them in there:


    The Bloatware has been moved. Depending on which apps you moved over - you might get a few force closes:


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    Arrow Thunderbolt: Apps that are safe to remove once rooted.

    As promised, here is the procedure for using a free file management alternative like Super Manager. It's hard to argue with free, but I still love Root Explorer.

    Also, before you go all crazy moving stuff, make sure you read the Thunderbolt: Apps that are safe to remove once rooted thread. Please.

    Steps 1 thru 3: Download, install, run, and setup Super Manager:


    Steps 4 - 6: Enable and allow root:


    Steps 7 - 9: By default, Super Manager opens the SD Card directory. You need to go up a few levels to the "Root" folder:


    Steps 10 - 12: Now you're going to navigate to the /system/app folder and choose which apps to move (don't forget to read this first!):


    Steps 13 - 15: Once you've finished selecting apps, you're going to navigate to the sdcard -- where the bloatware will be moved to:


    Create a new folder on your SD card to move the files to:



    Next you're going to paste/move the files:



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    Thanks for the valuable information Cory. As soon as I root I will start moving most of the files you have listed to my SD card. Quick question, when moved to the SD card do the files still need to be renamed?
    Thanks again!
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    No, I would just create a folder on your SD card called "Bloatware" or something like that and then move them over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cory Streater View Post
    No, I would just create a folder on your SD card called "Bloatware" or something like that and then move them over.
    Very good.
    Thanks!
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    The city id program can be removed form the program itself.

    I found this out the other day.

    Go into the program and choose subscription status i believe> end free trial> uninstall.
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    You can also use Titanium backup to Freeze the apps. Good for testing.
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    Thanks Cory. It's amazing how much junk they put on there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgetful View Post
    Thanks Cory. It's amazing how much junk they put on there.
    It's all about the benjamins

    VZW gets paid quite a lot of boodle to load all that stuff on there
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    Would we be able to disable or remove the Backup Assistant?
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    I removed Adobe Reader with no problems whatsoever.

    Thanks for the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russell5 View Post
    The city id program can be removed form the program itself.

    I found this out the other day.

    Go into the program and choose subscription status i believe> end free trial> uninstall.
    thanks for the tip! just removed it now. cant wait to get rid of the rest of the bloatware
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    Looks like you can remove /system/etc/CDROM.ISO to get rid of that prompt to install the Verizon drivers every time you plug your phone in, and HtcFootprints.apk to remove Footprints.
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    so on my phone, if you uninstall any htc widget rosie wont load
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    How much storage space would we gain back after getting rid of the bloat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt56 View Post
    Would we be able to disable or remove the Backup Assistant?
    On past phones removing BA pricked the phone until you reflashed it.


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffnucci View Post
    so on my phone, if you uninstall any htc widget rosie wont load
    Are you absolutely certain it was removing a widget that did this? Widgets shouldn't cause this to happen. There'san apkcalled Rosie. Is it possible you deleted that.
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    Can't get Root Explorer to mounts as R/W..Any ideas?
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    Pick up date: [3.17.2011]
    Recovery: [Clockwork 3.0.2.5]
    ROM: [Das BAMF v1.5] Radio: [1.16.00.0402] Kernal: [2.6.32.21 BAMF 4.4.2]
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    Super User Manager is FREE and it's an amazing app.
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    Thank you for the list.

    But for the love of whatever anyone might consider holy, is there a way to get rid of the recent apps in the notification pulldown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AisforAustin View Post
    Can't get Root Explorer to mounts as R/W..Any ideas?
    If you can't get it to mount as R/W you are probably not rooted. Try another root app to be sure, such as shootme or adfree. If neither works, you are not rooted for sure.
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    Seems that if you remove HtcStreamPlayer.apk you will no longer be able to stream video from sites such as ESPN.
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    Two Apps - Slacker Radio and Tune Wiki,

    Can I remove them and if so, how can I remove them? They pop up and restart everytime I kill them in Open Advanced Task Killer and takes up RAM.

    Anybody got an idea?
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    From what I understand, Task Killer should be removed, but Slacker and TuneWiki require rooting. I could be mistaken, though.
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    I removed the 3 files associated with VZW Backup assistant and all is good, I removed them when I had the DINC when I had it as well
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