Got the Merge!
Well, with a stroke up luck and a little something else (can't disclose the info to protect the seller), I just got the HTC merge which will be arriving in the mail next week. (this is ofcourse the one that does not have the rumored 4G antenna). I'll post some pictures when I get it!
- 01-29-2011, 04:21 PM #2
- 01-29-2011, 09:39 PM #4
- 01-31-2011, 07:26 PM #6
- 01-31-2011, 07:55 PM #7
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ok got a question, been following all the merge rumors for ages now,(just joined this site now just bc of all the coverage) i am dying for this phone!!!
but a quick thought, if it comes out on Alltell shouldnt anyone with verizon be able to just buy it and use it with verizon?? they let you use sprint phones (cdma) so why cant someone who wants this just buy it when it comes out on alltell regardless of what verizon does??
I didn't go for the G2 because I didn't like the optical pad and the Z hinge. After spending almost an hour with it, I hated the optical pad and the Z hinge keeps on falling on me.
You can say that it's a store model so it's been abused alot, but I also consider it as what it will be like 2 to 3 years from now so it's a good indication of its use in the future.
When I saw the merge, it looks beautiful, has a normal sliding keyboard like my Fuze, and it's pretty much the phone that i really really like. It just clicked. So hopefully, I will be able to use it on AT&T's 3G network or I might have to put the merge back on the market again. But I hope I dont have to because it's a beautiful phone that I really do not want to part with at any point or time.
- 02-01-2011, 02:57 PM #9
Congrats! (you SOB ) Because we all wanted the phone. I would be curious if it would run on ATT and if it doesn't, whether I (why follows) could run it on Verizon.
I don't have any experience but I imagine moving from droid phone to droid phone wouldn't be difficult within the network. I am still using a 12 button ancient phone with no data plan. I wonder if I could just walk into a Verizon store and want an upgrade to a data plan. I'd probably have to mention I had a test phone that they aren't officially supporting. And that would be a little awkward.
Can't wait to see what you've got.
I'll be recieving it on the 3rd. I do have an internship on that day from 9:45am to 7:15 so i wont get my hands on it till friday. I'll see if i can drop by a verizon store to unlock the phone.. or maybe over the phone, but we'll see.....
that or try to sim unlock it.
If it works out I'll have a nice phone, but if it doesnt... as i have said, i'll be posting on both htcmerge.com and here to sell it because atleast I will know you truly want the phone and will make use of it.
- 02-05-2011, 12:52 AM #11
- 02-05-2011, 01:08 AM #12
the number of test units out there is rather large but I would hope you would at least ensure none of the test information is on the device before posting pics.
I still have my unit so i know its not mine but whoever sold u that hopefully can ensure it remains active on the network..
- 02-05-2011, 01:44 AM #13
If I were to hunt down and procure one of the many units in the wild, would there be any difficulties in moving from a 12 button? I'm curious because I wanted a merge and since Verizon seems to have canned it, I gotta figure out what to do. Perhaps MWC will give some insight in 4g vs old 3g vs updated 3g (ex: inc2).
Puttr, you seriously wanted to do other things on a Friday night than play with the phone?
So here's a quick update:
I got the merge in the mail today and the first thing I did was to give Verizon a call. After about 10 minutes of arguing (NOTE: I called them saying that I bought the phone at full price and wanted to unlock it for use in a different country), they pretty much told me, we don't have access to the code and even if we do, we wouldn't give it away because you must use Verizon service even if you're using it in a different country. I then ask if I contact the manufacturer, will they be able to provide me the unlock code and their answer was that no because they wouldn't know it. So here I pointed out that it is impossible for both the carrier and the manufacturer to not have an unlock code. It's either they both have it or one of them has it. Now I realized that the cs guy is a dirtbag and will not help even if he can, so I hung up.
The next thing I did was to email HTC with the same story, I bought the phone full price from the carrier and that they refuse to give me the unlock code. Now I'll be waiting for a reply from them. Apart from that, I don't think I want to try to root it since this is the first android phone I've ever used so that stuff will have to come waaaaaay later if i can unlock it.
More updates to come as I find out more.
Update 1: HTC contacted me back saying that they do not have the unlock codes and that I would have to try Verizon again. I'm going to call verizon tommorrow and if it doesn't work, drop by the store and see if I can get it done there. If none of this works, I would prefer not to root it since there's a potential for the phone to not work at all on AT&T's network. I'm also thinking if I can get a friend of mine who has a verizon subscription and have them call to see if they can unlock the phone via my friend instead.
If all of this fails (since there are no online sites for unlock services that work on the merge that I know of) I'll be putting it back on the market this coming monday or so.
EDIT: this is just a copy/paste that i did for another site, but anyways, I wanted to spend alot of time witht he phone, but I ended up having to go to an internship on an urgent appeal, so i wasn't able to do much. So now my goal is to find a way to trick verizon to give me the unlock code or attempt to use Gfree (g2 unlocking software) to do a permaroot/SIM unlock/SuperCID all that once. but that i'll save for last if everything fails. otherwise I'll be putting it back on the market.
- 02-05-2011, 02:18 AM #15
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- 02-05-2011, 10:39 AM #17
Well, that would be a very very very odd way of getting it unlocked, since companies like verizon and at&t or microsoft and apple are like children on a playground, they fight and fight and act completely stupid. Chances are they wont help especially if they were asked by a competitor.
- 02-05-2011, 12:24 PM #19
Oh I agree completely but you never know. Besides, it's not like there's any harm in throwing out ideas or trying some out. Seeing if ATT can help you out might have a minimal chance of success but there's also minimal consequence in terms of failure. Worst case, you just get a no and you're back where you were.
- 02-05-2011, 02:39 PM #21
I have been following this thread and have to give my two cents since I've had some experience with what you're trying to do.
I have SIM unlocked both the HTC Touch Pro2 and the HTC Ozone on Verizon. I travel to Europe quite frequently so I only really buy global devices. Having said that I believe your experiment is in vain.
I called Verizon both times and received unlock codes for the devices. And have placed both T-mobile and ATT SIMS in them. Neither was able to use 3G data here in the US. Both were limited to EDGE or GPRS.
I believe that IF you do find an unlock code, which might have to be through one of the HTC unlocking sites or Ebay, not Verizon since you have not been a customer in good standing for 6 months, you still will not have 3G on ATT.
It is a very simple reason, while the phone IS GSM compatible. It costs more for manufacturers to put capable antennas in the phone. Since your Merge was not designed to operate on 3G in the US, the antenna simply won't be compatible for US frequencies. I am 90% certain on this since both devices I have dealt with had the same antenna issue.
This practice saves Verizon on manufacturing costs AND prevents their devices from going to their competitors while still offering full service abroad. Just to confirm, both of my HTC devices do function on 3G aboard, but as soon as I'm in the states, I'm back to EDGE.
So, I'd like to offer to help you. I can activate it on my account and attempt to get a SIM unlock code (which I've had 100% success with but never a phone not actually released). I also have ATT sims to try and can prove there will be no 3G here. If I'm wrong, I'd be more than willing to return the phone to you.
So after all this is over, I'd like to purchase the phone from you which is actually a risk because of the obvious fact that there will be no insurance replacements should I lose or damage it during my travels.
Let me know, but I think you're wasting your time. I'm sorry for the long reply, but feel free to PM me if I can elaborate on anything. Obviously, should you send me the phone to try to unlock, I will pay in full as a deposit. My only real reason for wanting this phone is that I have the same keyboard on my TP2 and would just like a global implementation of Android.
- 02-05-2011, 02:46 PM #22
the phone did come with a SIM card, but the original owner said he wanted it back. it is a verizon sim.
on the 2nd one, i did not prompt me for the unlock code, but will refuse to make any kind of call through gsm. it directs me straight to the verizon activation line. Apart from all that it's pretty much a completly clean phone.
I was able to find to location to input the unlock code, but that's about it.
- 02-05-2011, 07:17 PM #24
The most likely way of unlocking the phone is to use one of the HTC unlocking sites on the web. They usually charge about $20. Ill try and find the last site I used to unlock my friends Aria.
Just make sure that its a site that guarantees an unlock or your money back. They usually generate the unlock code based on MEID. If they ask what kind of phone, I would just enter G2.
Hope that helps and I wish you luck. Please keep me in mind when you move on.
I should add that the HTC imagio I had for a couple months behaved the same way as the TP2, no capable antenna.
I looked at HTC Merge Unlock - HTC IMEI UNLOCK
but they've already said that they dont have the code for the imei.
They apparently dont work with MEID (the site doesn't)
if you do happen to find a reliable place that would be awesome.