Ice Cream Sandwich - ICS on Charge?

**sv_one** · 10-20-2011, 02:42 PM

So....wonder if and when this will be released on the Charge. (Wouldn't it be something if they didn't release gingerbread because they - SURPRISE - wanted to go straight to ICS!?)

Yeah, I know, I'm delusional.

**hillview** · 10-20-2011, 04:33 PM

My fingers are crossed !

**swenpro** · 10-20-2011, 04:36 PM

lol... gotta love this forum.

**W_A_Watson_II** · 10-20-2011, 06:06 PM

Well I actually got a reply, but not an answer to my question to Samsung. "I know as of right now Verizon and Samsung are bickering over the upgrade to the latest OS upgrade for the Droid Charge, but if Verizon won't corporate will you at least step up and save us from the feud and release a Samsung only upgrade?". Here is the response:

Dear William,

Thank you for your inquiry. Unfortunately, we are unable to speculate when/if this Gingerbread software revision might be available for Samsung Droid Charge due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.

Should this become available, it will be posted on our website in the Samsung Download Center.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Do you have more questions regarding your Samsung Mobile Phone? For 24 hour information and assistance, we offer our new FAQ/ARS System - Automated Response System at

.

We appreciate your continued interest in Samsung products.

Sincerely,
Chris
Technical Support

So I'm not holding my breath any longer.

**arctic388** · 10-20-2011, 07:54 PM

Do you know they are bickering? What about? I want ICS.

**Bob61** · 10-20-2011, 08:47 PM

If you are going to write to a business you need to be sure to check for spelling errors... you used corporate instead of cooperate

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**arctic388** · 10-21-2011, 12:04 PM

but it was spelled correctly. its a grammatical error.

**sv_one** · 10-21-2011, 12:39 PM

I'm sure you all saw the Androidcentral post on this topic, but in case not, here's the link to the full article and an excerpt of the portion dealing with the Droid Charge.

The charge was not listed under the subheading "Phones That Will Get ICS." It was listed under "Phones that might (and should) get Ice Cream Sandwich".

http://www.androidcentral.com/will-m...cream-sandwich

Samsung Droid Charge

If the Nexus S can get updated, and LTE is working well in the Galaxy Nexus with ICS, there's no reason for the Charge not to see ICS. Samsung will figure out whatever they plan to do with TouchWiz, then they need to start rolling those changes out to their early adopters in the LTE space. Luckily, Samsung is in a pretty unique position once again -- they are building the Nexus Galaxy and have worked closely with Google during the process. The Charge is still what most of us would call a "new" phone and taking time to get it updated is a wise move. Whatever Samsung and Verizon decide to do here will be remembered by tech nerds on the Internet forever.

**W_A_Watson_II** · 10-21-2011, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by arctic388

but it was spelled correctly. its a grammatical error.

No it was a mouse click error. Be careful when picking the correct spelling from the list, it can dramatically change the meaning of a sentence. IE, don't misspell Warehouse and pick the wrong word.

**bluevolume** · 10-22-2011, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by W_A_Watson_II

Well I actually got a reply, but not an answer to my question to Samsung. "I know as of right now Verizon and Samsung are bickering over the upgrade to the latest OS upgrade for the Droid Charge, but if Verizon won't corporate will you at least step up and save us from the feud and release a Samsung only upgrade?". Here is the response:

I'll explain this situation, and you'll be able to answer your own question. The Droid Charge is a Verizon product, manufactured by Samsung. Samsung manufactures the phone, creates the software builds (including the Verizon extras), and tests that they work together. Verizon then sells the phone and is ultimately responsible for supporting it.

Its important to understand that relationship, and know that Samsung is never going to release any updates themselves. Doing so would actually be a serious breach of contract, and a lawsuit from Verizon would follow. The main reason that Verizon is so slow to release updates is that they face huge risks in support costs and customer satisfaction if an update causes problems. For the 2% of us that are demanding Gingerbread, and would probably accept a few new bugs just to have a newer OS, there is the other 98% that would be freaking out because they "sent out some update that broke my phone." Even something as simple as an update causing a factory reset could result in tens of thousands of support calls from angry users.

What is probably going on right now with the Charge Gingerbread update is that Verizon continues to find bugs in the rom builds and is going back to Samsung for fixes. (Its not because Verizon is taking time to add their bloat-ware; all of that is baked into the package that comes from Samsung.) My guess at this point is that they still will release Gingerbread for the Charge, but it will be something newer than the current "leak" that's out there.

**W_A_Watson_II** · 10-23-2011, 07:32 AM

I'm sure that you have it right, that VZW designs/specifies the details in the complete phone and Samsung is just a manufacturing facility.

I know carriers like VZW make design demands, but if it was as you describe, the same phone would not be used across carriers. If it's as you describe, as much as I hate apple, perhaps we should just embrace it and and get a phone that works as intended. Yea the "Charge" model is only offered by VZW, and I suspect there is some exclusivity deal that releasing their own software would cause a ruckus.

I guess VZW also wrote the specifications for Android and Google is just the coding house as well, darn. Guess all the phones are actually running different OS's and not the same one.

I only stayed with VZW because of coverage requirements, but this damn phone isn't working any better than an Iphone is those marginal areas. My old BB was a great reception phone, just getting so old there weren't any software updates. Wait those updates were from BB, I thought VZW designed the phone, why didn't I get updates from VZW rather than BB?

At this point I'm getting feed up with the VZW software and it's continuous updates that change/break functions. I should have just bought a very good brick phone with plenty of signal strength and a table of my own choosing rather than a SERVICE PROVIDER's dictate and used the two separately. If only the SERVICE PROVIDER would not GOUGE me on such a contract coverage plan.

Enjoy,
Will

**Midnight_Ninja** · 10-23-2011, 09:46 AM

I have a feeling that they are going to release ICS on the charge, the question really now becomes, when will they release it. I remember reading somewhere that Verizon will support/update their phones for 18 months. So I have a feeling that if we dont see GB before the end of the year, we are getting ICS.

In regards to the post about bugs in GB, the last two GB links, have had little to no bugs, and most of the people running them seem to have a bug free experience.

**elkniwcire** · 10-23-2011, 07:36 PM

Hopefully it gets it as soon as my fascinate got Gingerbread.

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**Gravytrain** · 10-25-2011, 11:58 PM

The charge is not gonna get ics... We're gonna be stuck with this lagging thing until its upgrade time. As soon as iPhone has a bigger display, I'm going back to ios.

**ick** · 10-29-2011, 08:14 PM

Verizon is not going to allow the Charge to be updated with any new operating system. That way they sell more phones. You'll only be able to get the latest and greatest if you pay. Follow the $$$. Root, root, root.

**radar320** · 10-30-2011, 12:39 AM

I've given up expecting any upgrades on the phone from Verizon and Samsung. Even Samsung's website has posted (and this was posted by someone at Samsung), they dont know when or if the charge is going to get gingerbread. I rooted and with each new stable leak, I flash it to my phone and that is how I upgrade and have been happy each time.

**trigun123478** · 10-31-2011, 08:21 AM

You think we are going to get ics port to the charge maybe,from a awesome devs? There doesn't seem to be that many roms for the Charge.

**porkshanker** · 10-31-2011, 04:05 PM

Scamscum announced that only 5 devices will get ICS and guess what Charge didnt make the list.

**trigun123478** · 11-01-2011, 03:04 AM

What about ports and roms based on it?

**porkshanker** · 11-01-2011, 08:51 AM

no clue on ports but I did notice every device Samsung says will get ICS has a dual core

**sv_one** · 11-01-2011, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by porkshanker

Scamscum announced that only 5 devices will get ICS and guess what Charge didnt make the list.

Link?

**Midnight_Ninja** · 11-01-2011, 04:07 PM

Here is the source

Notice that it says this is from Samsung Italy. That claim is baseless, as I think that the Charge is only sold here.

**frstbubble** · 11-02-2011, 06:40 PM

I grudgingly switched from my BB to the Android platform because neither BB nor VZW was releasing their new OS 6 to the phone I currently had that was still being sold as a premium phone from VZW. Now I am dealing with a 6 month old phone that was an OS system behind when I bought it becoming 2 upgrades behind with no upgrade in sight.

My friend who has a BB. that is no longer sold by AT&T, that got the OS 6 upgrade as soon as it was released. With this and the fact that I am in a 4G area and cannot even connect on the 3G network and see the phone phone going to 1xRTT on a daily basis I seriously thinking a change in carrier is in order,

There is no reason I should have to root a phone, other then to remove bloatware, to have a phone with the current OS when I buy it.

I was new to Android and not familiar with the OS releases when I bought the phone.

As mentioned earlier follow the money and VZW makes no money updating an OS. They only make money on service contracts and charging unreal prices for phones when you upgrade.

**molocules** · 11-15-2011, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by frstbubble

I grudgingly switched from my BB to the Android platform because neither BB nor VZW was releasing their new OS 6 to the phone I currently had that was still being sold as a premium phone from VZW. Now I am dealing with a 6 month old phone that was an OS system behind when I bought it becoming 2 upgrades behind with no upgrade in sight.

My friend who has a BB. that is no longer sold by AT&T, that got the OS 6 upgrade as soon as it was released. With this and the fact that I am in a 4G area and cannot even connect on the 3G network and see the phone phone going to 1xRTT on a daily basis I seriously thinking a change in carrier is in order,

There is no reason I should have to root a phone, other then to remove bloatware, to have a phone with the current OS when I buy it.

I was new to Android and not familiar with the OS releases when I bought the phone.

As mentioned earlier follow the money and VZW makes no money updating an OS. They only make money on service contracts and charging unreal prices for phones when you upgrade.

I was having the same issues. My phone would not keep 4g very well and then a few days ago it would not pick up 3g and would only pick up 4g after a power reset. I talked to the VZW help technicians and they had me reset my phone, which did not work. He then said he would put in a trouble ticket with their network team saying something about how my phone was provisioning the network. Their network team did something and now my phone picks up 3g and switches between 3g and 4g and does way better at picking up 4g.

**Terrigno** · 11-15-2011, 01:59 PM

If the source code can be fully yanked from the Galaxy Nexus working with LTE, Im sure a DEV will take that and make it work for the Charge. We just have to hope that there is a DEV who knows his stuff and is willing to make something like that happen for the Charge.

Honestly, The best way to go about things is learning the Hacking process. Loading Custom ROMS, Root, what Root programs do, etc.....This way, no need to worry about when will your carrier release this? This way, there are people who make Custom Roms that are far superior then the factory OS's that get updated from Carriers. Its best to learn the Rooting process and what can be done with ClockWorkRecovery Mod. Running GingerBread at the moment since its an actual leak and IS made from Samsung. Meaning there working on this code for the Charge so if anything, the Charge *should* get GB through Verizon since Samsung is working on it for a reason.

Either way. Custom Roms can be made to look and perform exactly how ICS is, if ICS doesnt get released for the Charge. And if not that, Drop a code thats good and Devs will get to work for it. If people put that there willing to pay, some Devs will go that extra mile to make it happen............yet most, do it for free totally because they love doing what they do. Custom Hacking.