Beats Audio...

**reb422** · 11-07-2012, 02:14 AM

Has anybody used an HTC phone that has Beats audio and is there much difference besides added bass? AND... I've read that the HTC 8X windows phone has built in sound amplifiers that make the speaker a lot louder... any speculation on if the DNA will have them built in as well? I couldn't have been more disappointed in my T-Bolt speaker's volume... I thought it would be great since the speaker grill is huge but not so much.

**DreamSTi** · 11-07-2012, 09:02 AM

I would like to know this as well.....

**Duane Kay** · 11-08-2012, 12:19 PM

I've been using the HTC Rezound with Beats Audio and Beats Earbuds. They are great. Better than other earbuds I've used. I'm a solid HTC backer because of inclusion of Beats and the user interface. I'm looking forward to upgrading to the DNA.

**sitlet** · 11-11-2012, 10:22 AM

The Beats headphones themselves are garbage, and way overpriced. I was very skeptical of the whole Beats enhancements at first, but my latest phone has it, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. It's not just added bass like most people think. It really brings out the good in a lot of music. I'm using a nice pair of Sennheiser studio buds.

**n8ter#AC** · 11-13-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by sitlet

The Beats headphones themselves are garbage, and way overpriced. I was very skeptical of the whole Beats enhancements at first, but my latest phone has it, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. It's not just added bass like most people think. It really brings out the good in a lot of music. I'm using a nice pair of Sennheiser studio buds.

Beats is not much better than what you get with the SRS or Dolby Enhancements in high end Samsung phones, for example, and Samsung tends to use superior audio chips in their devices. The Beats headsets certainly aren't worth what they charge for them. They're cute, though. I like red.

**Mellimel22** · 11-13-2012, 03:19 PM

I have beats on my epic and it does make the music sound not just louder but clear too

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**seeingwhite** · 11-13-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by reb422

Has anybody used an HTC phone that has Beats audio and is there much difference besides added bass? AND... I've read that the HTC 8X windows phone has built in sound amplifiers that make the speaker a lot louder... any speculation on if the DNA will have them built in as well? I couldn't have been more disappointed in my T-Bolt speaker's volume... I thought it would be great since the speaker grill is huge but not so much.

The hardware output amplifiers are the bigger deal here, not so much the beats audio sound "optimizations".

**jamdmyers** · 11-13-2012, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by seeingwhite

The hardware output amplifiers are the bigger deal here, not so much the beats audio sound "optimizations".

Can you explain how these amplifiers are implemented ?

**ItsaRaid** · 11-14-2012, 03:39 PM

I've got a OneX, and I use Shure ear buds. The Beats implementation works great and sounds great.

**whiteshadow001** · 11-14-2012, 07:00 PM

The beats headsets for the 2013 year are out and now that they aren't owned by monster they are great. Monster ruined the headsets for beats. Beats is now on its own and they seem to have gotten a makeover. The build quality is better than before and the new sound enhancement put into HTC phones sound great.

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**tony bag o donuts** · 11-14-2012, 07:20 PM

Give me poweramp any day.
Tried beats headphones. Not crisp enough for rock imho so I went cheaper and got noontecs.
arriving tomorrow but can't open till santa comes.

Why would you guys think beats is better off without monster?
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**Mellimel22** · 11-15-2012, 09:35 PM

Yeah poweramp is a good player and a side note I LOVE CM10 this my first time flashing it and its love to the sgs2 GPS finally works this seems to good to be just a text version

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**Mellimel22** · 11-15-2012, 09:36 PM

Sorry for hijacking lol

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**lakaw** · 11-16-2012, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by reb422

Has anybody used an HTC phone that has Beats audio and is there much difference besides added bass? AND... I've read that the HTC 8X windows phone has built in sound amplifiers that make the speaker a lot louder... any speculation on if the DNA will have them built in as well? I couldn't have been more disappointed in my T-Bolt speaker's volume... I thought it would be great since the speaker grill is huge but not so much.

Yes, the DNA has two amplifiers, one for the headphones and one for the external speaker.

Quote from the Engadget piece:

**Phil Nickinson** · 11-16-2012, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by lakaw

Yes, the DNA has two amplifiers, one for the headphones and one for the external speaker.

Quote from the Engadget piece:

Pretty sure it's one amp, not 2.

**xXBLACKBERRYXx5** · 11-16-2012, 08:09 PM

i've heard that its 2 amps not one. i dont remember which review said it because i've watched basically all of them but im pretty sure i've heard 2 more than a couple times.

**Jocelyn84** · 11-16-2012, 08:15 PM

Anyone know which DAC it's using?

**JHBThree** · 11-16-2012, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Jocelyn84

Anyone know which DAC it's using?

It's using a Qualcomm one, iirc.

**Jocelyn84** · 11-16-2012, 08:38 PM

Thank You JHBThree. I'm guessing it probably has a Qualcomm WCD9310 after seeing your reply, but I'm hoping they put something a little better and newer into the DNA. Mind you, this is coming from someone who generally picks their phones based on the scientific audio quality and would swap my GNII for a DNA if the dac/audio turned out to perform better. I can't be bothered carrying around a portable usb amp in addition to the phone, so here's to hoping HTC has/had something up their sleeve with the audio hardware

**milan03** · 11-16-2012, 11:29 PM

Does DNA have pre amps or amps? I know audiophiles would love to have a device that plays FLAC and has a pre amp...
Also do I have to turn on that crappy Beats Moniker on, or I'm getting the same amped source without it as well?

**DarkScythe** · 11-17-2012, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by milan03

Does DNA have pre amps or amps? I know audiophiles would love to have a device that plays FLAC and has a pre amp...
Also do I have to turn on that crappy Beats Moniker on, or I'm getting the same amped source without it as well?

Audiophiles would likely not be listening to music on their phone in the first place.. I don't believe the phone has a dedicated Line Out.
Personally, I use an iPod with ALAC out of convenience, via its line out, feeding into my own portable amp, into whatever headphones I decide to bring with me.

I've never been a fan of Beats anything, though.

**jamdmyers** · 11-17-2012, 06:55 AM

Most of the data was on Voltage output, most phone today have less that 1v. The headphone out is 2.5(5) so in regards to amps
i=v/r (ohms law) with 4ohm headphones you'd have .625 with 8ohm headphones .3125a / 1V normal phone with 4ohm .25a
ok enough with the math, that said I believe this will provide higher volumes with less distortion (audio goal) but it will still all rely on
the quality of headphones plugged.

**milan03** · 11-17-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by jamdmyers

Most of the data was on Voltage output, most phone today have less that 1v. The headphone out is 2.5(5) so in regards to amps
i=v/r (ohms law) with 4ohm headphones you'd have .625 with 8ohm headphones .3125a / 1V normal phone with 4ohm .25a
ok enough with the math, that said I believe this will provide higher volumes with less distortion (audio goal) but it will still all rely on
the quality of headphones plugged.

I'm plugging my UE18's custom ears, but I'm kinda worried because a few months ago beats feature completely destroyed my right low driver using One X. Had to send them for repair. Luckily the folks in Irvine, CA really go above and beyond to take care of their customers.
I'm kinda hesitant of this. If I can get completely flat response for my FLACs, and all that with 2.55v I may be a happy camper.

**PsychDoc** · 11-17-2012, 09:42 AM

Any info yet on the clarity of the built-in speaker. This has long been a weak point of most phones. Say what you want about the iphone but I have to say that their built-in speakers are pretty amazing -- providing good volume and clarity. I'm hoping the DNA is as good or possibly even better.

Anyone have any feedback on this?

**lou61166** · 11-18-2012, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by n8ter#AC

Beats is not much better than what you get with the SRS or Dolby Enhancements in high end Samsung phones, for example, and Samsung tends to use superior audio chips in their devices. The Beats headsets certainly aren't worth what they charge for them. They're cute, though. I like red.

HTC also has the dolby srs enhancements,i use i use it on my rezound,with player pro,and bluetooth headsets.