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  1. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Can you post a side by side with the DNA and the Thunderbolt to show size differences?
    I'm even gonna charge that old beast for ya.
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    11-14-2012 01:13 PM
  2. iLLusive's Avatar
    Why do you think 16GB was HTC's decision?
    Inclined to believe HTC has had history ever since the Thunderbolt, one of the last HTC phones to have SD card inside, to go to 16gb model. Now is this the downfall of their profit margin, probably not. You can look back at Incredible line, Thunderbolt, Rezound and Verizon based phones. Most all were 16gb models and in this sense I think HTC needs to adapt to needs of the current user base to be competitive. Moto originally only released the Razr but after battery life complaints and storage the Maxx came out shortly after. This model has done well for Moto / Google and I can't imagine that HTC is going to continue to get passed by and suffer as a company over things easily fixable in their upcoming devices.
    11-14-2012 01:16 PM
  3. edoublediz's Avatar
    See, you (and others) keep saying that as if it'd have no impact on the design of the phone.

    And to call any manufacturer an ***** says more about you than it does them. Let's grow up, m'kay?
    Of course it would alter the design of the phone! You are acting like they designed the chassis first then tried to fit what they can. It should be opposite, design internals then wrap it. Obviously it is a harmony of the two. NO ONE would have cared if the phone was 1mm thicker!!!!! NO ONE! In fact i would bet you 9 out of 10 people would opt for larger battery. It would have been a killer!! Not that it isnt, just more so.

    For doing this, i call them stupid! Do a survey, conduct market research, whatever, it is easy to see people want battery life to do all thw awesome stuff a smart phone does all day. It is simple as that. Any company that doesnt recognize that is stupid.

    This is just my opinion!
    Jocelyn84, Markster1 and JDStone1 like this.
    11-14-2012 01:17 PM
  4. cmdr430's Avatar
    Am I missing the answer to these questions? They seemed to have been passed over a couple times....


    Phil,

    Does the phone look to be serviceable?

    i.e.

    battery removal and replacement?

    I am not so much worried about battery life. It just seems to me that with all of the great internals of this phone it should/could last a long time. i.e more than a two year contract... and the one year warranty....

    Are these new super phones being designed to be disposable?

    I keep my phones in a case and with a screen protector, but I have no control over a battery that goes bad....

    Thanks

    Cameron
    11-14-2012 01:19 PM
  5. iLLusive's Avatar
    It's probably serviceable but I wouldn't try it being HTC list it as -
    Battery
    2020 mAh LI-ION (embedded)
    11-14-2012 01:21 PM
  6. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Inclined to believe HTC has had history ever since the Thunderbolt, one of the last HTC phones to have SD card inside, to go to 16gb model. Now is this the downfall of their profit margin, probably not. You can look back at Incredible line, Thunderbolt, Rezound and Verizon based phones. Most all were 16gb models and in this sense I think HTC needs to adapt to needs of the current user base to be competitive. Moto originally only released the Razr but after battery life complaints and storage the Maxx came out shortly after. This model has done well for Moto / Google and I can't imagine that HTC is going to continue to get passed by and suffer as a company over things easily fixable in their upcoming devices.
    Repeat: Are you sure it was HTC's decision to only put 16GB in there? See what I'm sayin' yet?
    paulmike3 and Fraggle79 like this.
    11-14-2012 01:25 PM
  7. mountainman's Avatar
    Phil,

    Not sure how big your meat hooks are, but thought I would ask if the DNA is comfortable to type one-handed?

    Also, are you running around naked, or do you have a case on it? Does it feel/look ridic when you are talking on it?

    And, how is the dedicated camera button? Good feel as in hold halfway to focus?


    Thanks Phil.
    11-14-2012 01:26 PM
  8. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Of course it would alter the design of the phone! You are acting like they designed the chassis first then tried to fit what they can. It should be opposite, design internals then wrap it. Obviously it is a harmony of the two. NO ONE would have cared if the phone was 1mm thicker!!!!! NO ONE! In fact i would bet you 9 out of 10 people would opt for larger battery. It would have been a killer!! Not that it isnt, just more so.

    For doing this, i call them stupid! Do a survey, conduct market research, whatever, it is easy to see people want battery life to do all thw awesome stuff a smart phone does all day. It is simple as that. Any company that doesnt recognize that is stupid.

    This is just my opinion!
    And it's a perfect valid opinion. But that's not necessarily how smartphones are designed.

    And I've met designers from a numbers of manufacturers have laughed in our face when we said exactly that. "It's only 1mm." "EXACTLY!" they said. "That's 1mm that we don't want in the design."
    JDStone1 likes this.
    11-14-2012 01:27 PM
  9. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Re: The battery.

    Is it serviceable? I dunno. By whom? Certainly not by me.
    No. You cannot remove it. It's in there good. In fact, it's BETWEEN the display and the circuit board, and not just under the case. Good luck getting to it. Will be interesting to see a teardown.
    11-14-2012 01:29 PM
  10. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Phil,

    Not sure how big your meat hooks are, but thought I would ask if the DNA is comfortable to type one-handed?
    So I've got small hands, but it's not any more difficult to type on than any other phone. It's really no wider than anything else I use.

    Also, are you running around naked, or do you have a case on it? Does it feel/look ridic when you are talking on it?
    Me? No. The phone? Yeah. I don't use cases, for the most part.

    And, how is the dedicated camera button? Good feel as in hold halfway to focus?
    There is no camera button.
    11-14-2012 01:31 PM
  11. hannsoft's Avatar
    Are you sure it was HTC's decision to only put 16GB in there? See what I'm sayin' yet?
    Readin' THAT loud and clear .. coupled with the new data plan tiers. Pardon while I go back and thumb through the "keeping unlimited data" thread ....
    Fraggle79 likes this.
    11-14-2012 01:33 PM
  12. skatergirl's Avatar
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    They ROCK!


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    I have found it to be extremely easy in the 5 days I have had it
    Thank you NightAngel!
    NightAngel79 likes this.
    11-14-2012 01:34 PM
  13. bigdaddytee's Avatar
    And it's a perfect valid opinion. But that's not necessarily how smartphones are designed.

    And I've met designers from a numbers of manufacturers have laughed in our face when we said exactly that. "It's only 1mm." "EXACTLY!" they said. "That's 1mm that we don't want in the design."
    I've read about HTC, their design process/criteria, and the surveys they've taken which they use to justify the choices they make for hardware. (See articles from six months ago, "our customers want thin".)
    I also see their sales and market share.

    Perhaps they should try to attract customers who are more interested in performance, rather than looks. Like the million enthusiasts here on AC.

    Just saying.

    Sent from the red headed stepchild of the Nexii.
    11-14-2012 01:37 PM
  14. cmdr430's Avatar
    Re: The battery.

    Is it serviceable? I dunno. By whom? Certainly not by me.
    No. You cannot remove it. It's in there good. In fact, it's BETWEEN the display and the circuit board, and not just under the case. Good luck getting to it. Will be interesting to see a teardown.
    This bothers me more than it not having a removable battery.....

    The specs on this phone are high end enough to keep it running for years on end IMO.....

    So, I guess that phones are going to become disposables....

    That is a shame when you have to pay full price to keep your unlimited plan.....
    11-14-2012 01:41 PM
  15. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Somehow I've come to hate the Sense UI. I loved it once upon a Time..now I know its just a battery killer and makes Android even slower than ever.
    Some stock JB love (not CM plz)

    Sent from my RaZr HD.
    11-14-2012 01:41 PM
  16. wnflyer's Avatar
    Thin is in! Just ask my ex wife---j/k.

    Gonna drop the GS3 and give this a try. I like what HTC has been doing and although I tried the Note 2 for a week, I just could help but feel that it was too much phone (I carry an iPad when traveling for wok).

    Thanks to Phil and A/C for all the feedback.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
    11-14-2012 01:43 PM
  17. XDCX's Avatar
    Repeat: Are you sure it was HTC's decision to only put 16GB in there? See what I'm sayin' yet?
    I think most of us follow your point.....

    I wonder if it could be argued that it's "Restraint of Trade" for Verizon to force HTC to "gimp" their phone so it didn't compete directly with Verizon's more expensive flagship phone, the Razr Maxx HD? (No SD slot, small battery and only 16GB.)
    11-14-2012 01:44 PM
  18. streetstrip01's Avatar
    I'm even gonna charge that old beast for ya.
    Thanks for posting.

    Everyone gives the TB a bad rap, mine was crap until I rooted it, it now has ICS and I am still at 70%+ with moderate use. (On extended battery)

    It's so damn heavy though....

    So heavy.
    Fraggle79 likes this.
    11-14-2012 01:49 PM
  19. ohio2010's Avatar
    I travel alot and would like to see if the DNA can handle a movie in airplane mode with some decent battery at the end. Gotta call a cab once I land of course
    11-14-2012 01:50 PM
  20. weblos's Avatar
    is there going to be a white version available in the future?

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    11-14-2012 02:02 PM
  21. Matto2007's Avatar
    Does anyone know if a touchstone charger will work with this phone. Those are really cheap and there really does not seem to be very many other qi charging mats out there for sale now.
    11-14-2012 02:08 PM
  22. ApexPredation's Avatar
    I'll jump in to help try and answer questions too. I'm doing a full heavy use day and I will post a screen shot later. I can confirm that the battery is doing great so far. Especially when compared to a gnex and rezound.

    Sent from my DROID DNA
    11-14-2012 02:10 PM
  23. dsignori's Avatar
    Does anyone know if a touchstone charger will work with this phone. Those are really cheap and there really does not seem to be very many other qi charging mats out there for sale now.
    Note sure about that one (The Nexus 4 didn't work with that one), but these all use the Qi standard and should work ...

    Energizer Single Position Inductive Charger

    Nokia DT-900

    LG Electronics WCP-700
    Matto2007 likes this.
    11-14-2012 02:23 PM
  24. D_Ar1zzl3's Avatar
    This is great. I almost pre-ordered the day it was announced (since I've been following the leaks on this phone for a while now mainly from this site), but held back after seeing the specs on battery and non-expandable storage...

    However, the accessories mentioned by other members here are convincing me more and more to go with this phone over the GN II. Which even though they're not direct competitors, I think it's the closest phone that matches up to the DNA (the Nexus 4 doesn't cut it IMO). However, I'm waiting to see the reviews on battery life before I take the plunge. Any ideas when you guys will release your official review of the phone?

    To me, as long as the phone lasts from the time I get up in the morning to the time I go to bed (~15-16 hours) with moderate-to-heavy use, then I'm happy. But I'm still a bit concerned on that 11GB of usable storage (which can be more with a cleaned up or slimmed down custom ROM). However, since I'd have to pay the full retail price since my "upgrade eligibility" is not until July of 2013, the DNA would cost $100 less... and I guess that makes up for the smaller battery and no microSD slot...
    11-14-2012 02:24 PM
  25. Rizz1-2's Avatar
    I've read about HTC, their design process/criteria, and the surveys they've taken which they use to justify the choices they make for hardware. (See articles from six months ago, "our customers want thin".)
    I also see their sales and market share.

    Perhaps they should try to attract customers who are more interested in performance, rather than looks. Like the million enthusiasts here on AC.

    Just saying.

    Sent from the red headed stepchild of the Nexii.
    I am 100% with you. However you should keep in mind that while the 1 million of us here love performance, the other 10 million customers just want the phone to physically look good.
    bigdaddytee likes this.
    11-14-2012 02:35 PM
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