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    Default My Apps Keep Opening. Why?

    Hey guys. So I've got my Incredible all set up with widgets and such and to conserve battery I got Advanced Task Killer. It's interesting because that shows that many of my apps turn themselves on automatically. Some are widgets and I get those being on but others are like City ID which I never open. Why do they keep coming on?
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    Not sure ATK is going to help conserve the battery, its more for managing memory.... and thats up for debate if its really necessary or helpful.
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    What apps keep opening....android will open anything called for by anouther app. Its best to just let android do its thing!!!!!!!! Look through the article below, and it tells you what kinda apps open for what reasons/services....

    http://www.androidcentral.com/how-pr...s-i-went-there
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    I thought it would help with battery because it would allow me to turn off apps when I'm not using them.
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    I wish there was a final verdict on whether ATK was good or bad, I've installed it then uninstalled, then installed, then uninstalled. Cant make my mind up.
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    City ID opens anytime you make or receive a phone call. It tells you the city you are calling or the city a caller is calling from.
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    Final verdict, they are bad. You don't need them.
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    don't worry about it.

    task killers (or managers) aren't necessarily bad (for those who know what they're doing) but they are mostly not necessary.

    unless you see something drastically eating up battery, memory, and cpu cycles, just let the OS do what it was designed to.
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    Default Re: My Apps Keep Opening. Why?

    @Adiliyo what the heck do you mean for those who know what they are doing? My battery goes dead some times in 3 hours without even touching my phone, All because the apps keep opening all by them selves. My opinion is the android OS is the absolute worse thing available and they don't care because they probably have a deal with the battery suppliers. Just the fact there is no way to close most apps proves my point. With windows you click the X and your browser closes but android has no way to close apps without going into the manage apps in settings, Yet the apps still re-open on their own without touching the phone. Its a major flaw min the OS and it needs to be addressed.
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    I see all these responces about this and they claim its not draining the battery yet they don't ever mention the fact they are using up all the internal memory and that is causing the phone to lock up and drain the battery. I'd love to hear a response to that.
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    Default Re: My Apps Keep Opening. Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by napanascarnut View Post
    @Adiliyo what the heck do you mean for those who know what they are doing? My battery goes dead some times in 3 hours without even touching my phone, All because the apps keep opening all by them selves. My opinion is the android OS is the absolute worse thing available and they don't care because they probably have a deal with the battery suppliers. Just the fact there is no way to close most apps proves my point. With windows you click the X and your browser closes but android has no way to close apps without going into the manage apps in settings, Yet the apps still re-open on their own without touching the phone. Its a major flaw min the OS and it needs to be addressed.
    Quote Originally Posted by napanascarnut View Post
    I see all these responces about this and they claim its not draining the battery yet they don't ever mention the fact they are using up all the internal memory and that is causing the phone to lock up and drain the battery. I'd love to hear a response to that.
    WOW. I don't recall the last time I saw someone trolling this hard for an argument. Especially from a thread that's over a year and half old!

    If you don't like Android, don't care to understand how the OS works, or have an affinity for "closing" out apps perhaps you should go back to Windows.
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    Default Re: My Apps Keep Opening. Why?

    Take task killer off. It's not needed once a phone gets past 2.0 (froyo). Atk will try to kill apps that Android tries to keep open. Android leaves commonly used apps in cache at very very low power level to open up quicker. Atk keeps trying to kill these apps, which will create a loop and consume battery very quick.
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    Save your breath (or keystrokes) ghess517, I'm pretty sure this guy has no real interest in being a constructive part of this forum.
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    I understand, just trying to be helpful to OP..
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    Both of these guys were really helpful, as my point of view was the same as the guy who wants to close everything. I understand they open automatically and closing and re-opening will cause unnecessary load on the cpu, but I don't like the fact that I could look at my task list after an hour of non use and find 2 voicemails, 3 map/gps services, and other applications I never use. my displeasure is compounded when I can lose 30% battery in an hour of non-use.
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    hey I find this subject VERY helpful. And I also have an issue with apps opening on their own, but mostly because phone starts to operate very slowly. For instance I try to type text msg but than it has a 1-2 sec lag before the letter appears.
    Now Im far from an expert but I still do feel that this memory vs opening apps issue can be worked on.
    Is there a way to manually restrict memory to be used by self opening apps and would this solve a problem?
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    Default Re: My Apps Keep Opening. Why?

    For periodic tasks, Apps can register themselves to "Alarm manager" AlarmManager | Android Developers

    Check out "Wakelock detector " at Google play,

    it has a option "Wakup Triggers", that shows which APPS periodically RUNNING themselves and doing some tasks.
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    Default Re: My Apps Keep Opening. Why?

    Don't get me wrong, I like Android. I just want it to be better.

    So what is the best solution ?

    Point1: ... I do want some apps to be in memory and managed by the OS. I am fine with that. These are applications I use often, or often enough.
    Point2: ... I also want some applications to NOT have any CPU or memory until I open them. I think this might be more a case for a clear conscience than anything else. After a reboot I have Youtube running, why ?

    As an example, I have Twitter, Zedge and Youtube apps installed yet I do not use them often. Why oh why do they take memory and generate network traffic from time to time for their status, alerts or notifications ? ... I know I agreed to the application's permissions when I installed them, but I did not accept those for 100% of the time. I expect a setting in the OS to allow an application to run, and then to optionally be KILLED 100% ... not half baked service running without me needing it. Most of the applications want to stay in memory forever just to keep tabs on the user and be ready at a moment's notice. These applications are not willing to die and go away so they will offer a notification service to stay on.
    Some rationale would make sense claiming that it costs more to clear the memory and process table, but that is simple laziness on the developers side and poor OS.

    I know I will not lose much memory or CPU time, but if I do have a problem with battery consumption how am I to find the faulty party ? ... I am loosing significant battery since there are tiny Wifi or data network traffic. I need my phone to stay on as long as possible and having applications lying around does not help me trusting the OS.


    I am wondering if rooting my phone would allow me to change what is starting at boot time. But even then I do not think the OS will change so applications will stay in memory unless I kill them manually.
    I am wondering if Blackberry or IOS are better at this.
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    Default Re: My Apps Keep Opening. Why?

    @Hikmat abdoollayev ... I see the "Wakup Triggers", and it does match to my running apps. ... now how do we stop the apps from doing that ? ... I mean other than asking the developer or finding another app that behaves properly or has the proper options for not running on their own ?
    The apps did ask permissions to do a bunch of stuff on my phone, and there is no specific permissions I can refuse if I want the app.
    The only thing working would be a background task killer and we all agree that that is counter productive.
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    Non of the smartasses can really answer the question, but still are showing how important they are... Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liudas Stonys View Post
    Non of the smartasses can really answer the question, but still are showing how important they are... Pathetic.
    I agree - the question is simple enough
    I too hate apps opening just because I have touched or moved the phone.

    Why peeps have got to rave about everything else I just don't know

    In any event, it would be great if someone who actually knew the answer to the question was to respond

    Thanks
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    Default Re: My Apps Keep Opening. Why?

    Alright, for those interested in learning more about how your Android reallyworks, listen up! For those who think they know everything, and just wanna troll around, have fun.

    Your Android phone, as I hope you know, is essentially a pocket sized PC. If you know ANYTHING about PC's, then everything I am about to say will be logical to you. The only REAL difference, without being technical, is that you have more control over your PC. The reason being, is that a PC comes with more quality hardware allowing it to perform with a more elaborate OS. When you close a program on your PC, the program is essential stopped; however, certain processes may continue to run in the background, without draining the amount of RAM it would if the program had been open.

    Android's are similar, but like I said, less elaborate in programing. If you terminate an App on you phone but a process still needs to run in the backround (usually because it's still being used by the system or another App), it will appear to close but immediately reopen. The biggest nuisance with these less elaborate OS's, is that an App cannot run necessary backround processes without it essentially being open/running.

    Remember, I said earlier Apps also use other Apps, or the system uses Apps without you doing anything also due to certain settings you may use. A good example of this is using auto-signing in. If you have all your social networking Apps affiliated to your phone, with your passwords saved and auto-sign in, your phone will automatically reopen them. Such as my Galaxy S3 (I know, I'm out dated, lol!), I expect g-mail, facebook, Skype, and programs like that to stay open. I can terminate them over and over, but as long as my passwords are saved on my phone and have a net connection, they will run regardless. There is the matter of synching as well. If you allow your Apps to sync with each other as well as your device, then you must expect one to affect them all. Auto-backup of your system and files to your cloud-type accounts, will constantly reopen those as well. One last example for Apps requiring net connection, is location. If you allow your device and Apps to know ur location using GPS, all Apps that have the option or demand location settings on, will stay also.

    Now, there's also the matter of needless junk, live wallpapers, number device's home screen pages, widgets, excessive call/sms logs, and most importantly your caches. First, if you love to store a lot of ''novelty'' Apps that you don't really need, either uninstall them or disable them while you're not using them. Clear call/sms logs weekly, if not monthly. (Depending on how frequently you fill them.) Avoid live wallpapers or widgets with on screen animations for optimal performance. Try not too keep too much music/photos/videos on your phone if you don't need them. (even if they're stored on your devices SD card.) And it is absolutely necessary to delete the caches of every App individually once a month.

    Most people do not realise, even though you are taking up physical memory, the more you do, the more RAM your phone will take to compensate for the additional work it needs to do to sort through all the junk as it's trying to perform the task you want. It will take longer to load, and perform slower because it's overburdened with a ton of needless files gathering dust.

    I will conclude with a few last pointers. The only way to truly have control of an Android other than going through ALL your system/accounts/networking/App settings, is to root your device. I do no recommend doing so to anyone without the experience and knowledge to properly do so, while still being able to protect it with decent anti-virus software. I warn you! Doing so without knowing exactly what you are doing can result in your phone being absolutely useless. Use the O.S. you have, let it perform as it should, but take the time to also care for it as you should.

    REMEMBER to always use the APPROPRIATE charger/USB cable that comes with your phone. This will prolong battery life extremely, and prevent battery swelling as well as damage to the contact points between it and the phone. Failure to do so could cause the battery to inflate until it pushes against the back plate onto you display, ruining it completely. And is rare cases, it can cause leaks and fire.

    Note: App Killers are useless unless your phone is rooted. Apps will reopen immediately and you're just wasting your time.

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