Which do you have? Samsung AMOLED V. SONY Super TFT LCD

**daethwing188** · 07-16-2010, 03:54 PM

I was wondering which of the two types of screens you have on your Incredible. I'm not sure if there's hardware identification inside of the phone (without really digging around), but perhaps this link can help you identify any difference between the screens.

Edit: I'm aware that there are similar threads on the forum, but I wanted to get an idea of what the ratio of screens is and how it will change with the newer batch of phones that will be shipping.

-daeth

**Trophias** · 07-16-2010, 04:16 PM

It's already been said that the Incredible will continue to have the AMOLED display. New devices will have the LCD display.

**daethwing188** · 07-16-2010, 05:59 PM

Said where? Last I heard, HTC was "augmenting production of the Droid Incredible with Sony Super TFT LCD". It was my understanding that the new boxes would contain both types of screens. The only way to tell which you got was to open the box and see.

**Trophias** · 07-16-2010, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by daethwing188

Said where? Last I heard, HTC was "augmenting production of the Droid Incredible with Sony Super TFT LCD". It was my understanding that the new boxes would contain both types of screens. The only way to tell which you got was to open the box and see.

I saw it on here, but it was some time ago. It was my understanding that future phones will be changed to LCD while the Incredible will still be the same(AMOLED)

**daethwing188** · 07-16-2010, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry Hildenbrand on AndroidCentral.com

HTC tells us that they will be augmenting production with "Super LCD" displays from Sony, but models with AMOLED displays will still be made. They say that they are almost indistinguishable from AMOLED displays, even when side by side.

Link to full article: HTC addresses AMOLED stock issues by moving to Sony Super LCD panels

I take this to mean that HTC is now producing the Incredible with whatever they have (i.e. both AMOLED and SuperTFTLCD) in order to get the phones out the doors and onto shelves.

**ramcharger1979** · 07-16-2010, 07:43 PM

What hardware version do you have?

**daethwing188** · 07-16-2010, 07:56 PM

I'm still waiting on the shipping notification at the moment.

**Trophias** · 07-16-2010, 09:48 PM

Mine is 002.

**gmz73#AC** · 07-17-2010, 08:12 AM

How exactly can you tell? I got mine on 6/15/10.

**urabob** · 07-19-2010, 02:26 PM

It would be nice to know for sure what's coming from HTC. I've been reading up on what the Super TFT would look like. From what I've gathered, the ipad screen is a good example of what to expect. Which, seeing it at Best Buy, isn't bad at all. The only thing that depresses me about Super TFT vs AMOLED is the fact that Super TFT will drain the battery faster.

**daethwing188** · 07-19-2010, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by urabob

It would be nice to know for sure what's coming from HTC. I've been reading up on what the Super TFT would look like. From what I've gathered, the ipad screen is a good example of what to expect. Which, seeing it at Best Buy, isn't bad at all. The only thing that depresses me about Super TFT vs AMOLED is the fact that Super TFT will drain the battery faster.

Or rather the Evo4g...

**rabbithole13** · 07-19-2010, 03:27 PM

I don't know what I have, but I've used the phone outside in the bright Florida sun a few times now, and while it does mute the color, I can still see what I'm doing on the phone. Maybe someone could post how you could tell what you have. ???

**BerkleyJ** · 07-19-2010, 04:30 PM

Incredible will not change to lcd!!

**_JKK_** · 07-19-2010, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by rabbithole13

I don't know what I have, but I've used the phone outside in the bright Florida sun a few times now, and while it does mute the color, I can still see what I'm doing on the phone. Maybe someone could post how you could tell what you have. ???

I have AMOLED; I get the same results as you in the sun.

I've been overall impressed with the outdoors performance; I was led to believe it was going to be horrible. And I've been out in the desert sun for the last 2 weeks.

**daethwing188** · 07-19-2010, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by rabbithole13

I don't know what I have, but I've used the phone outside in the bright Florida sun a few times now, and while it does mute the color, I can still see what I'm doing on the phone. Maybe someone could post how you could tell what you have. ???

Until I find a better method, this is all I can recommend

Originally Posted by BerkleyJ

Incredible will not change to lcd!!

That's not what HTC said. They said they were going to continue producing Incredibles with the AMOLED screens and they would augment production of the phones by producing them with Sony Super TFT LCDs.

**urabob** · 07-19-2010, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by daethwing188

That's not what HTC said. They said they were going to continue producing Incredibles with the AMOLED screens and they would augment production of the phones by producing them with Sony Super TFT LCDs.

I heard the same thing. Some with AMOLED and some with Super TFT. Again, the claim from HTC is there is no discernible difference.

The only thing I'll be able to do is compare it to the OLED screen of my Zune HD (which is very different compared to a standard LCD) and see how it compares to whatever arrives from Verizon.

What I can say from comparing OLED to LCD is this: OLED has a WIDE viewing angle. You can view it from any angle and it never gets cloudy and the blacks are perfectly inky and rich. Just pure black and nothing even remotely close to grey. Plus OLED just sips electricity compared to other options save for e-ink.

**joebob2000** · 07-21-2010, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by urabob

Plus OLED just sips electricity compared to other options save for e-ink.

Hasn't this been debunked? If the screen is a major battery hog on the early Incredibles with (undoubtedly) the OLED screens, I would hate to end up with an LCD version that was even worse! As I recall, only if you fancy screens of nothing but black backgrounds and light text will you see an energy savings vs LCD; so unless you spend all your time in the settings menu or happen to have a pitch black background, there is no difference.

**_JKK_** · 07-21-2010, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by joebob2000

Hasn't this been debunked? If the screen is a major battery hog on the early Incredibles with (undoubtedly) the OLED screens, I would hate to end up with an LCD version that was even worse! As I recall, only if you fancy screens of nothing but black backgrounds and light text will you see an energy savings vs LCD; so unless you spend all your time in the settings menu or happen to have a pitch black background, there is no difference.

There still is a difference; darker colors=lower battery requirements. I have a background that is fairly dark. Text is black. I don't think it's difficult to imagine that the screen does save some power.

**gnh5002#AC** · 07-21-2010, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by daethwing188

Until I find a better method, this is all I can recommend

That's not what HTC said. They said they were going to continue producing Incredibles with the AMOLED screens and they would augment production of the phones by producing them with Sony Super TFT LCDs.

augment meaning "help" i was assuming meaning they will help but continue to use the AMOLED but help with the backorder by using LCD

patches has said, and he is a very reliable source, that hardware version 0002 is AMOLED and version 0003 is the new TFTLCD...not 100% on this would have to know from someone who has or is getting the LCD to be sure

**urabob** · 07-21-2010, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by joebob2000

Hasn't this been debunked? If the screen is a major battery hog on the early Incredibles with (undoubtedly) the OLED screens, I would hate to end up with an LCD version that was even worse! As I recall, only if you fancy screens of nothing but black backgrounds and light text will you see an energy savings vs LCD; so unless you spend all your time in the settings menu or happen to have a pitch black background, there is no difference.

With a traditional LCD, pixels share a light source and so you can't have pure black and the illumination is constant. With OLED each pixel is illuminated separately and can turn off completely to produce black. Hence the savings in power.

But yeah, if the battery life was bad with OLED... then switching to LCD could be worse. We won't know until somebody compares the two.

The only negative with OLED is less visibility in sunlight and the tendency for the blue pixels to die off over time (8 years or so).

**Qazme** · 07-21-2010, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by gnh5002

augment meaning "help" i was assuming meaning they will help but continue to use the AMOLED but help with the backorder by using LCD

patches has said, and he is a very reliable source, that hardware version 0002 is AMOLED and version 0003 is the new TFTLCD...not 100% on this would have to know from someone who has or is getting the LCD to be sure

I have yet to hear anyone who has actually gotten the TFT screen who can confirm that the hardware # has changed. I'm willing to bet there is no version difference as far as that goes. It's all hear say and speculation right now.

**KB3MMX** · 07-21-2010, 07:14 PM

If i got a LCD on a new Incredible, I'd be pissed !!

The display on OLED is FAR superior and I wouldn't trade it's clarity for one second in a competition with the sun for who's brightest....

Heck, if you want a regular LCD screen, you might as well just get a Droid X(

**joebob2000** · 07-21-2010, 09:10 PM

You guys really don't see the diagonal trellis in the pixels where the green ones line up? I like good black levels but I don't know if I would trade a clean, true white for a clean, true black. After playing with the Incredible at the Verizon store, I just don't know if I would be happy with the AMOLED version. I spend a lot more time looking at white (web pages, emails, etc) than black personally, so a web page on something like the Droid 2 has amazing whites and nice smooth text and frankly looks better thanks to the LCD. I bet I would get used to the Incredible either way, but I would probably be happier if I got one of the LCD models. If anyone gets one that can't stand to have it, I will take it off your hands!

**urabob** · 07-24-2010, 01:10 AM

My two phones that came in today were both AMOLED. I'm very happy and satisfied.

**Fahrenheit** · 07-24-2010, 08:17 AM

Is there any other way to tell? I've gotten 3 Incredibles (2 were broken), and I think this latest one is LCD. I believe that because I had my 2nd phone and 3rd phone together and I turned them both on at the same time. The white HTC startup screen came on, and there was a difference! The newer phone was ALOT brighter than the old. I didn't think to take a picture but the difference was pretty astonishing. The difference was so pronounced that it would make sense to me that this new one is LCD. I'd like to verify somehow though.