- 09-03-2010, 12:28 AM #2
- 136 Posts
Re: It seems most people having good luck with froyo 2.2...safe to download now ??
I have seen a lot of negative reviews. I actually have 2 incredibles, I installed the RUU manually on one and am constantly declining 2.2 on the other so I can go back to stock 2.1 if I need/want to.
I am seriously thinking about holding off on the 2.2 update. It sounds like there are concerns about apps. being dropped.
I use Secrets to store my passwords and I would be screwed if that app got wiped.
From reading the sticky, it looks like there some having no problems and some who do.
Is there any way to stop getting the upgrade message on my INC until I decide when I want it ?
I want to upgrade with the update is tight. I don't have time to f with it.
Is there an overall verdict on Froyo.. Is it ready to go, or still buggy.???
ps - love this forum, thanks for everybody's input.
- 09-03-2010, 05:23 PM #5
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Ahh, thats good to know about the apps being dropped jason. I manually installed the deodxd version of Froyo...and apps kept disappearing. So I restored my original stock. Good to know it wasn't the ROMs fault. I am curious also about what to do about the message for the upgrade. I'm not ready for it, and I don't have time to mess with my phone much...I don't want a upgrade that isn't ready.
- 09-03-2010, 07:13 PM #6
I went to 2.2 and no problems. I mean very minor stuff. And if you don't go to 2.2 you are stuck without having full flash on all the websites and that's a big deal to me as well as the speed of 2.2. Not to mention all of the new apps are going to be tailored for 2.2. They are bringing all the major Android phones to 2.2 for a reason.
MOST of the problems you are reading about are people who have their phones rooted and updated to 2.2 the improper way so they had all these issues.
If your phone isn't rooted you shouldn't have any problems. I mean think about it, right now almost every single person that has any type of droid that is newer has 2.2. All over America. And you are seeing a tiny fraction of people on this forum who have some troubles. And again, most of them were rooted.
- 09-03-2010, 07:54 PM #7
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- 09-03-2010, 09:51 PM #11
Hmmm, I'm not buying it. It appears to me there are lots of folks who were running the stock 2.1 that are now having some pretty major issues. (What would be major issues to me if they were happening on my phone anyway.) And many of them have waited for, then downloaded the "Official OTA". Also, I don't do a lot of web browsing on my DInc so not having the full meal deal on Flash is of little consequence. I use my lap top for such things. (Maybe once in a blue moon I have the need to browse for something on the fly so what I have now works for me.) Also, as for those apps that have been upgraded for 2.2, they seem to be working fine for me on my "old" 2.1 OS. Then there is the issue of Bloatware. It's bad enough to have the City ID but to have to deal with more like it for the sake of some iffy benefits provided by the Froyo update for me is unacceptable.
I use my phone to conduct business as well as personal use so to not have my messaging, calendars, notes and phone all working correctly (which is why I decided to buy the Droid Incredible in the first place) is a matter of simple economics. My work involves solving problems for my clients... I certainly don't need the added burden of such a critical device as my DInc not working as designed to be an issue.
Now, to all those who have chosen to accept the 2.2 update I hope it fulfills your needs and wish you all the best. But to those who are leery of accepting this update, I certainly can understand your reluctance as well. I would not expect everyone to have the same needs in a phone as myself but one thing is undeniable, the forums are currently full of people having issues as a result of this update and more than just a few who wish they had the option to revert back to their ol' 2.1.
With all that said, I too would also like to ask, is there any way to stop getting the System Update message on my DInc until I decide if and when I want it? It's constantly popping up and this update notification is really beginning to get annoying!
- 09-03-2010, 09:59 PM #12
To each his own. Nothing wrong with staying on 2.1. But I bet if you wasn't a member of this forum and just an average user of the phone and the 2.2 update got pushed to you and you downloaded it you probably wouldn't experience any problems and you'd be like wow they just made a great phone even greater!
To me, 2.2 is the future. Some say it is overrated but it isn't. It makes what was a great phone even greater. There are lots of features and just over all speed and usability that got improved. They took a long time making this thing and I think they did it pretty right. Few bugs here and there but no one I know who did it correctly has had any major problems. That I know in person.
On this forum there are some. But there was also with 2.1. You can go to this forum at anytime and see all types of problems.
If you came to this forum right when the Dinc came out the entire forum is filled up with questions about all of these issues they are having.
Just like if you go to a mac forum you'll see tons of questions about people having problems and issues out of their macbook. But for the majority of us, we have no problems what so ever with the macbook.
That just comes with technology!
And the apps right now shouldn't have a problem with 2.1 like you said. But in the future they will. Because they will be tailored for 2.2 and developers won't even be looking at how most of them work on 2.1 because there aren't many 2.1 phones out there now. And within a year there won't be many people at at all with it.
But again if you're happier stay at 2.1! But just remember there will always be these problems. If you were looking into a new computer you could read great reviews on it and you could go to the forum and as I said before you'd see nothing but questions and horror stories about what went wrong with the computer. Would that stop you from getting the computer?
That just is and always has been technology!
Also just look at the upside. You're going to get a better signal which should help with your work. Your web browsing will be faster. You will have wireless N for wifi. The phone will run much smoother and a few other things.
The thing is, in a forum we can nit pick too. The bloatware sucks and I'm not saying it doesn't. But it's not as big of an issue as what you're probably thinking after reading all of this. I mean people were making a huge deal out of the phone saying the word "Droid" when it comes on. You see what I'm saying? The bloatware isn't as big of a downfall as it sounds. If I didn't know any better and read that I'd think wow the bloatware ruined the thing! But it doesn't. It actually isn't too much more than 2.1 had and honestly you don't really notice much of a difference. It's just a nit picking thing.
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- 09-03-2010, 10:35 PM #14
I have a great Samsung HDTV but if I go to the forum about that TV right now I'll get post like "TV not turning out." "Sound not working." "Tv blew up." lol But it's a great tv.
- 09-03-2010, 10:45 PM #15
^ I agree with what you said for the most part. None of the quirks with this update are showstoppers, but some of them are definite annoyances. I don't consider it nit picking for people to complain about the 'droid' notification at boot up, or most annoying to me, getting a prompt to install media manager software along with a web browser opening a Verizon link every time I plug my phone into a PC. I can handle what most people call bloatware, but the VZW media manager nag thing is beyond lame.
- 09-03-2010, 10:57 PM #16
If that annoys you that bad I can only imagine how everyday things in real life gets ya! lol
- 09-03-2010, 11:07 PM #17
LOL well, the 'droid' thing is only a minor annoyance for me because there's no way to modify or cancel it without downloading an app. I can live with it though, since (like you) I normally only have to hear it first thing in the morning. I'm more annoyed by the media manager thing. It's more than a split second thing. First you have to click 'no' on the program pop up, and then close the web browser window that launches some sort of media thing. If you don't click the X before the media starts, it will sometimes take several tries to get the browser window to close. This particular thing only happens on my work pc running XP. On my W7 personal laptop, it only displays an auto-run dialog box. Unfortunately, I usually only plug my phone into a PC at work.
- 09-03-2010, 11:52 PM #18
2. Also, does anyone know if the 2.2 update comes with a SD / File Explorer, or do we still need to use one of the explorers from the market ? I have been using Blackmoon File browser, which seems to work ok.
3. Also, my phone is not rooted. So, I shouldn't lose any apps. or data stored in my apps, right ??
I little nervous to to this, but I am tired of the prompt to update coming up and hopefully like others have stated, most people are having no problems...and we are just hearing from a small minority of people that had issues.
- 09-05-2010, 11:18 AM #20
I updated a stock phone with the update.zip that was posted on AndroidCentral and no major issue of any kind . I am happy I have no regrets on updating to froyo,now I got it tweaked even happier with it. , its still a stock OS,maybe one day I will root once I get tho with all the reading on how ,lol
- 09-05-2010, 11:19 AM #21
Regarding question #1 ... what I intended to ask was...does the phone simply walk you through the steps on how to upgrade to Froyo. I assume yes, I haven't seen any kind of instructions posted anywhere.
I will pull the trigger tonight or tomorrow.... but good to hear your advice and others' advice...makes me feel a little more confident.
- 09-05-2010, 11:31 PM #23
It feels like I'm the lone ranger here not wanting to do the update yet. Just a fyi; I did figure out how to get rid if the pesky notification... Got the battery cover off in prep to pull the battery at the onset of the update, turned off wifi, clicked install on the update notification then pulled the battery at the beginning of the update. I had to reinstall the battery, power on then pull the battery a couple more times as I saw the update green progress bar start but on repeat #3 the notification went away. I don''t recommend this for anyone else... but it worked for me.
- 09-06-2010, 07:15 AM #24
I upgrade in January with my annual upgrade. I bought my Dinc full price. But I won't be purchasing any new phone until the external charger for it and extended batteries are out. When I first got my Dinc I couldn't find an external charger and it was horrible because I'm so used to that.
Should be a very fun year to see what Android rolls out in the holiday season!
Just downloaded 2.2, took about 10 minutes. No major issues noticed yet. It's faster and I like the new texting and ability to easily attach pictures, etc.
One issue I have noticed is that when I use the 'magnifying glass' on the You Tube widget, it doesn't open up a search function. I am searching the forums to see if anyone else has this issue.