1. andonakis's Avatar
    I just got my fascinate this past Friday and I'm already on my 3rd one. For some reason it locks up than i would pull the battery to reboot it and it won't start up. The Verizon screen comes up than it stays on a blank black screen. Some people at verizon say don't put a task killer app. Some say its an app that may be doing it. I'm getting very discouraged. They replaced 3 times so far but i'm just wondering why others have hundreds of apps without a problem and I have 20 and it locks unexpectedly.
    10-03-2010 11:29 AM
  2. kvaughan#AC's Avatar
    Rooted? Lag fix installed? Need a little more info...
    10-03-2010 11:57 AM
  3. Groundhound's Avatar
    Is one of those 20 a task killer app?
    10-03-2010 11:59 AM
  4. andonakis's Avatar
    yes one of those is a task killer app
    10-03-2010 12:02 PM
  5. andonakis's Avatar
    Rooted? Lag fix installed? Need a little more info...
    not rooted what ever that means and no lag fix installed
    10-03-2010 12:02 PM
  6. Groundhound's Avatar
    Ditch the task killer.
    10-03-2010 12:05 PM
  7. andonakis's Avatar
    Ditch the task killer.
    really? thats what verizon told me but they were not for sure
    10-03-2010 12:06 PM
  8. Groundhound's Avatar
    10-03-2010 12:08 PM
  9. packerbacker's Avatar
    They always recommended task killers to me on my Motorolas, but I'm pretty sure they didn't really do anything. On the Fascinate there is a Task Killer built in so I just use that. I'm sorry about your Fascinate troubles- it might be an app that's causing it, it might not be. I went through a ton of phones before I got a good one so I just wish you luck.
    10-03-2010 12:31 PM
  10. infamouspally's Avatar
    i use adv task killer and i have no probs so far and had my phone for bout 2-3 weeks now
    10-03-2010 07:33 PM
  11. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Task killers are destroying people's perception of Android. I wish they banned them from the market. In fact, I'd be a rich man if I had a nickel for every post - where removing a task killer - resolved a problem someone was having.
    10-03-2010 08:10 PM
  12. Redneck Trash's Avatar
    Ditch the task killers. If you want to know what your apps are doing in the background, which most of time is nothing, use Watchdog.

    Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk
    10-03-2010 08:40 PM
  13. ultravisitor's Avatar
    I don't use a task killer because Android needs to learn my usage in order to work well.

    Droid Den - Android Guide: Should I Use a Task Killer - Droid Den
    10-03-2010 09:20 PM
  14. KH29's Avatar
    Yeah, the day I got my Fascinate the VZW store installed the taskiller app and said it was pretty much an essential for any android based smart phone. I have had it on there for a couple of weeks and after reading several article and posts about how bad they are I got rid of it.
    10-04-2010 12:41 AM
  15. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Yeah, the day I got my Fascinate the VZW store installed the taskiller app and said it was pretty much an essential for any android based smart phone. I have had it on there for a couple of weeks and after reading several article and posts about how bad they are I got rid of it.
    I keep hearing reports of this, and it's absolutely infuriating! Verizon employees should not be installing ANY apps between the time the phone leaves the box, and the time the customer leaves the store. When in the hands of a VZW employee, that person could - knowingly or unknowingly - be installing any # of programs that could potentially be malicious (malware) in nature. There should absolutely be a corporate policy against employees installing software that alters the device after it's been removed from the box. I guess this is a lot to ask from a company who also thinks that every Android handset should come pre-installed with Bing.
    10-04-2010 08:05 AM
  16. NickA's Avatar
    I keep hearing reports of this, and it's absolutely infuriating! Verizon employees should not be installing ANY apps between the time the phone leaves the box, and the time the customer leaves the store.
    Good point. I was so frustrated with the rep who kept insisting that he install Backup Assistant on my Fascinate. I hate that they even touch the phone, that's why I normally order online, but didn't want to wait that extra day or two to get my hands on a new phone
    10-04-2010 08:10 AM
  17. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Good point. I was so frustrated with the rep who kept insisting that he install Backup Assistant on my Fascinate.
    Man, that's another excellent example. Once configured, the Backup Assistant account cannot be removed from the account settings screen, and continues to run indefinitely, until you do a hard reset.

    I hate that they even touch the phone, that's why I normally order online, but didn't want to wait that extra day or two to get my hands on a new phone
    I'm the exact same way. For me, buying online is always the better choice. They don't touch the phone, and it's so much easier to return if necessary.
    10-04-2010 09:07 AM
  18. packerbacker's Avatar
    I keep hearing reports of this, and it's absolutely infuriating! Verizon employees should not be installing ANY apps between the time the phone leaves the box, and the time the customer leaves the store.
    They shouldn't, but oh, they do. Only the last guy I dealt with when I got my D2 and then when I returned it for my Fascinate didn't install any apps on my phone. All of my POS Droids got task killers installed on them from the employees. The worst part was I was skeptical, but my parents were with me every time and were like "LISTEN TO THEM "
    10-04-2010 09:14 AM
  19. egg_head's Avatar
    Last time I bought a phone from a corporate store I immediately hard reset it after the rep finished programming it.
    I don't want anything configured that I didn't configure.

    [tapatalk on android]
    10-04-2010 09:20 AM
  20. Cory Streater's Avatar
    but my parents were with me every time and were like "LISTEN TO THEM "
    Yeah I don't argue with mine either haha.

    Last time I bought a phone from a corporate store I immediately hard reset it after the rep finished programming it.
    I don't want anything configured that I didn't configure.
    Great idea!
    10-04-2010 09:25 AM
  21. emptycube's Avatar
    My Fasc had Adv Task Killer Free on it when I got it. It ran fine with it, runs fine without it. Don't really see that much of a difference, RAM seems to mysteriously drop as I use the phone either way. Battery life seems comparable. But it's certainly easier not dinking with it everytime I use a few apps.

    What about the Start-up killer from this review thread? Are those OK? At start-up my phone always auto-launches all sorts of crap I have no intention of ever using (VZNavigator, CityID, etc).

    I don't understand why I can't delete something like CityID. I'm past the free trial period, I don't want it...ever; yet it always launches when I use the phone. I can't even 'open' it because I haven't bought it. It's just a big ram-sucking turd on my phone.
    10-04-2010 09:36 AM
  22. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Emptycube, this is only my opinion, but I think a better route to go would be to root, and then use the safe to remove bloatware sticky to get some of that stuff off of there. That said, I've heard success stories using apps you asked about.
    10-04-2010 09:51 AM
  23. emptycube's Avatar
    Thanks Cory. Being an android noob (and wasn't 100% on keeping the Fasc) I was at least going to wait until my 30-days was up, but that ends this week. Then I was hoping to wait for froyo. It's like they REALLY entice you to root by making them this way.

    I'm making up a new android term: root carrot.

    root carrot - an item you hate so much it entices you to root your phone just to be rid of it, even if you're the last person on earth likely to root a phone. Examples - CityID; VZNavigator.
    10-04-2010 10:04 AM
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