Android 2.2 for Fascinate

**TheSkeptic** · 11-10-2010, 11:03 AM

When is Android 2.2 update going to be available for Fascinate

**Chrisvklein** · 11-10-2010, 12:38 PM

Samsung is playing this update from the Blizzard Entertainment playbook:

SOON

from wowwiki.com/soon:
Soon: Copyright 2004-2010 Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. All rights reserved. "Soon" does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future. "Soon" shall make no contract or warranty between Blizzard Entertainment and the end user. "Soon" will arrive some day, Blizzard does guarantee that "soon" will be here before the end of time. Maybe. Do not make plans based on "soon" as Blizzard will not be liable for any misuse, use, or even casual glancing at "soon."

**xgunther** · 11-11-2010, 01:25 PM

"Let them eat Froyo"

**Chaos5** · 11-12-2010, 01:24 AM

Chris love the Blizzard quote, man do I hate there updates they get delayed etc...

**bilbotn** · 11-12-2010, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Chrisvklein

Samsung is playing this update from the Blizzard Entertainment playbook:

SOON

from wowwiki.com/soon:
Soon: Copyright 2004-2010 Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. All rights reserved. "Soon" does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future. "Soon" shall make no contract or warranty between Blizzard Entertainment and the end user. "Soon" will arrive some day, Blizzard does guarantee that "soon" will be here before the end of time. Maybe. Do not make plans based on "soon" as Blizzard will not be liable for any misuse, use, or even casual glancing at "soon."

Blizzard is second fiddle in the "Soon" department. Cornered Rat Software, the makers of WWIIOL (World War II Online), shall forever been known as the GODS of soon. It started before they even released the game in 2001.

But to the OP I would guess sometime before 2012. LOL

**denzillion** · 11-12-2010, 08:26 AM

I am disappointed with Samsung and this Froyo thing. We are already talking about Gingerbread and here we are, top-of-the-line Samsung (for now) is still running on 2.1. WTF!

**jokerls240** · 11-12-2010, 09:06 AM

To add insult to injury, the Galaxy Tab is shipping with Froyo.

**Cory Streater** · 11-12-2010, 09:24 AM

I'm growing increasingly impatient. Although, I had my suspicions the day I bought the Fascinate - that based on their track record this would - and choose to buy it anyway. If nothing else, they need to do a maintenance update to fix the GPS issue. There is absolutely no reason for them to roll that into Froyo.

**nickf126** · 11-12-2010, 09:44 AM

I agree with Cory and the rest. This update is turning out to be a case of too little too late. I do want it to work without bugs and glitches, but it is important to remember that this is a to of the line phone. I think we are getting treated pretty poorly. Premium devices should have Froyo, and should be waiting on Gingerbread. (yes I know that Gingerbread has not been officially announced yet, I'm just saying)

**jokerls240** · 11-12-2010, 09:57 AM

About the GPS issue: I noticed the other day, after I had done an Odin /System restore, that Waze picked up my location in less than 5 minutes! Before, it took anywhere from 10-15 minutes before I could get a GPS lock in either Google Maps or Waze.

One thing to note, when the DI01 update was originally pushed out, my Facinate was rooted and "lag fixed". The update thew out a couple errors, but my About screen appeared as if it was applied. Yet, after the Odin restore, I re-ran the software update - no root or lagfix, with no errors.

While I haven't read much into the DI01 update results from other users, I'm curious if those having GPS problems should try the update again, after returning to stock, if rooted.

With that said, my latest GPS results was from only one attempt. I'm about to step out for a break and test it again. Also, my Fascinate is still not rooted. I'm just going to wait for Froyo, if it's

**nmyeti** · 11-12-2010, 09:59 AM

Froyo will be nice. Don't get me wrong, but Froyo isn't what i want most on the Fascinate. I need them to fix my GPS. Otherwise i'm happy (coming from a Froyo incredible).

**NickA** · 11-12-2010, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by denzillion

I am disappointed with Samsung and this Froyo thing. We are already talking about Gingerbread and here we are, top-of-the-line Samsung (for now) is still running on 2.1. WTF!

Yeah, Froyo seems like a thing of the past now. I look at my original Droid running 2.2 and it seems ancient. Not that there are a ton of visible changes in 2.2, it would just be nice to run the latest OS on the latest phones.

**jokerls240** · 11-12-2010, 10:32 AM

So I just tested GPS in Google Maps and Waze. Maps couldn't get a fix within 2 minutes but Waze had my location in much less time. Makes you wonder what algorithm each one uses to locate satellites.

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**jnewell** · 11-12-2010, 10:56 AM

Call me a cynic, but my experience with VZW has been that the phone you get is the phone you buy. In other words, you cannot expect any support or updating at all. I'm still quite happy with the Fascinate, so it's not a big issue, but VZW's hardware support is almost criminally poor and has been for every phone I've ever owned with them (and my account goes back twenty years, although the older phones weren't firmware-upgradeable).

**nickf126** · 11-12-2010, 11:35 AM

I have to disagree, because my D1 seemed like it got updated very quickly. I think that is the exception, not the rule, unfortunately.

**egg_head** · 11-12-2010, 12:01 PM

Froyo is over rated.
Seriously.
The only thing my Fascinate doesn't do is Flash.
As far as the GPS goes, I just opened Google Maps prior to responding and requested my location..
Stop watch confirmed- 59 seconds to lock. Mind you, GMaps estimated my position immediately and was fairly accurate given it was just an approximation.
I would rather use my Fascinate then my Droid 1 or Incredible any day of the week.
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**shaundizzle** · 11-12-2010, 12:11 PM

Froyo is a Tad more than just flash.
Does your phone also have apps2sd?
(That I don't find necessary but is a cool feature especially cuz when you flash a rom data wipe wont get 'em)
Does your phone have the JIT compiler too?

There's a few more things, go look them up.

But I am curious to see what's in gingerbread

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**egg_head** · 11-12-2010, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by shaundizzle

Froyo is a Tad more than just flash.
Does your phone also have apps2sd?
(That I don't find necessary but is a cool feature especially cuz when you flash a rom data wipe wont get 'em)
Does your phone have the JIT compiler too?

There's a few more things, go look them up.

But I am curious to see what's in gingerbread

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Yeah, yeah. I'm no noob.

What I'm trying to say is, compared to two other Android devices that I own, the Fascinate is still superior even with 2.1.

The only "disadvantage" is the fact it doesn't have Flash.

Apps2SD is not a big deal. I'm no where near my storage limit and Titanium keeps things backed up and a simple restore gets back anything I lose during a ROM change.

JIT may minimize performance degradation during code execution, but from a real world perspective, I don't expect my non-VooDoo Fascinate to run any quicker outside of benchmark evaluations.

When my Incredible went from 2.1 to 2.2 I saw no major gains in performance or reliability.

Everyone's needs are different though. There are plenty of Froyo advocates out there.

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**Cory Streater** · 11-12-2010, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by egg_head

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As far as the GPS goes, I just opened Google Maps prior to responding and requested my location..
Stop watch confirmed- 59 seconds to lock. Mind you, GMaps estimated my position immediately and was fairly accurate given it was just an approximation.

If this consistently works - using the built-in GPS chip (not A-GPS) - and you're able to use it reliably for real time turn-by-turn directions, I'm extremely envious of you.

**F34R** · 11-12-2010, 01:18 PM

I've never had any issues with my GPS. I've used it a lot for turn by turn, etc., and it's always locked within a couple mins at most.

**egg_head** · 11-12-2010, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Cory Streater

If this consistently works - using the built-in GPS chip (not A-GPS) - and you're able to use it reliably for real time turn-by-turn directions, I'm extremely envious of you.

Yeah, it always works. Approx. 1 minute every time.
I leave Google GPS turned on and Standalone GPS at all times.
Maybe it helps, I don't know.

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**xgunther** · 11-12-2010, 01:54 PM

At least with crap iOS, you know that you'll be getting it with everyone else. I think the major problem with android is that there are way too many devices being released.

I know that competition is essential, and I love seeing the newest and coolest device, but for a manufacturer like Samsung, they seem to be only invested in future devices, and not with the current ones.

It'd be great if the manufacturers and google, to an extent, could work on implementation of sustainability in the OS and the skins/manufacturer UI, so that future android updates could be pushed a lot more efficiently.

In the case of Samsung, this may be their downfall. Of course, the average consumer is too ignorant to care—maybe that's what Samsung counts on..

My 2 cents.

**xgunther** · 11-12-2010, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Cory Streater

If this consistently works - using the built-in GPS chip (not A-GPS) - and you're able to use it reliably for real time turn-by-turn directions, I'm extremely envious of you.

On a side note: I have never had an issue with GPS. It locks immediately in all apps, including navigation.

This is obviously a hardware specific issue. I would exchange for a new one if I had this issue since I rely heavily on GPS and navigation.

**ocgreenmachine** · 11-12-2010, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cory Streater

Yeah - that doesn't help me. Even if that were a workaround, I travel constantly and end up shutting it off when on the plane :/

Thanks for all your responses though.

Hrm... I've noticed that when I turn on airplane mode, gps remains on... so I assume that it shouldn't affect you even if you travel a bunch... Not sure about actually turning the phone off, but I've never had any problems locking to satellites... Only when I actually toggle the gps off. Hope that helps.

**fwdixon** · 11-12-2010, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by bilbotn

Blizzard is second fiddle in the "Soon" department. Cornered Rat Software, the makers of WWIIOL (World War II Online), shall forever been known as the GODS of soon. It started before they even released the game in 2001.

But to the OP I would guess sometime before 2012. LOL

lmao, That was exactly what I thought when I read that.