Welcome to the Android Central Forums Create Your Account or Ask a Question Answers in 5 minutes - no registration required!
Results 1 to 16 of 16
  1. Thread Author  Thread Author    #1  
    Josh515's Avatar

    Posts
    134 Posts
    ROM
    AOKP / Franco.Kernel

    Default Temp root or permanent root?

    I finally decided to root my Nexus using droid-life's instructions and am now temporary rooted. I wanted to proceed to permanently rooting my Nexus, but really don't know what that means. Could someone explain to me what the advantages, disadvantages, and differences are between the temporary root and permanent root?

    Sorry for the noob question.

    Edit: I read somewhere that if you are only temporarily rooted that you will have to "reroot" you're phone every time you reboot it. Not sure if this is true or not, but I did find that if you want to flash custom ROMs you should be permanently rooted. (Just showing I made an attempt to figure this out on my own!)
  2. #2  
    mozy's Avatar

    Posts
    129 Posts
    Global Posts
    332 Global Posts

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josh515 View Post
    I finally decided to root my Nexus using droid-life's instructions and am now temporary rooted. I wanted to proceed to permanently rooting my Nexus, but really don't know what that means. Could someone explain to me what the advantages, disadvantages, and differences are between the temporary root and permanent root?

    Sorry for the noob question.

    Edit: I read somewhere that if you are only temporarily rooted that you will have to "reroot" you're phone every time you reboot it. Not sure if this is true or not, but I did find that if you want to flash custom ROMs you should be permanently rooted. (Just showing I made an attempt to figure this out on my own!)
    I'm new to rooting, but from what I understand every root is temporary because you can always unroot with this device.
  3. Thread Author  Thread Author    #3  
    Josh515's Avatar

    Posts
    134 Posts
    ROM
    AOKP / Franco.Kernel

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mozy View Post
    I'm new to rooting, but from what I understand every root is temporary because you can always unroot with this device.
    Droid-Life gives instructions on how to temporarily root your phone and how to permanently root it. I believe permanent roots are reversible, it just has to do with how to phone boots up. With a temp root, it will clear any changes upon reboot, but the changes will remain the same with a permanent root.
  4. #4  
    2defmouze's Avatar

    Posts
    5,825 Posts
    Global Posts
    5,846 Global Posts
    ROM
    AOKP

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    If you followed the instructions in that link you should be permanently rooted.
  5. Thread Author  Thread Author    #5  
    Josh515's Avatar

    Posts
    134 Posts
    ROM
    AOKP / Franco.Kernel

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    I followed it up until the point where it said "If you want permanent Clockwork Recovery", then I stopped. I read in the comments that if you permanently root your phone with Clockwork recovery, then you won't be able to receive OTA updates. Is this true?
  6. #6  
    2defmouze's Avatar

    Posts
    5,825 Posts
    Global Posts
    5,846 Global Posts
    ROM
    AOKP

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    Permanently having CWR and having permanent root are 2 different things. You are permanently rooted (of course you can unroot if you need). But you will have to flash CWR every time you need to access it if you didn't finish the process.

    If your phone remains "stock" then you should still get OTA updates, though its possible they will break root and you'll have to reroot after. But now that your rooted (and I assume you unlocked the bootloader, right?) you can just wait for the dev's to release OTA's pre-rooted.
    Thanked by:
  7. #7  
    jpprice's Avatar

    Posts
    441 Posts
    Global Posts
    446 Global Posts

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josh515 View Post
    I followed it up until the point where it said "If you want permanent Clockwork Recovery", then I stopped. I read in the comments that if you permanently root your phone with Clockwork recovery, then you won't be able to receive OTA updates. Is this true?
    You are permanently rooted, but you still have stock recovery. All that means is that you until you delete or rename that file, you will have to reflash CWM anytime you want to flash ROMs ect. You still have access to the root directory of the phone however. You should receive OTA as long as you don't replace the stock recovery with CWM.
  8. #8  
    tony bag o donuts's Avatar
    Resident Ringtone Maker

    Posts
    3,939 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,052 Global Posts
    ROM
    BB JB

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    I cannot achieve root using Droid life's method.
    After unlocking the bootloader, it moves the adb from the tools folder to the platform tools folder.
    So I copied the clockwork file and other file to both folders.
    Ran step 5 but then trying to reboot into the bootloader it says device not found. Thoughts?

    1. Download ClockworkMod Recovery for the G-Nex. [Download]
    2. Place that file in your SDK/Tools folder (same place as your adb.exe).
    3. Download the superuser file aka the root file. [Download]
    4. Place that file in your SDK/Tools folder.
    5. Open a command prompt from within your Tools folder and type the following:

    adb push su.zip /sdcard/

    6. Then reboot into the bootloader:

    adb reboot bootloader
  9. #9  
    2defmouze's Avatar

    Posts
    5,825 Posts
    Global Posts
    5,846 Global Posts
    ROM
    AOKP

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    Quote Originally Posted by tony bag o donuts View Post
    I cannot achieve root using Droid life's method.
    After unlocking the bootloader, it moves the adb from the tools folder to the platform tools folder.
    So I copied the clockwork file and other file to both folders.
    Ran step 5 but then trying to reboot into the bootloader it says device not found. Thoughts?

    1. Download ClockworkMod Recovery for the G-Nex. [Download]
    2. Place that file in your SDK/Tools folder (same place as your adb.exe).
    3. Download the superuser file aka the root file. [Download]
    4. Place that file in your SDK/Tools folder.
    5. Open a command prompt from within your Tools folder and type the following:

    adb push su.zip /sdcard/

    6. Then reboot into the bootloader:

    adb reboot bootloader
    I say just screw it and use the sticky on how to root it from this forum. Droid-life is stupid.
  10. #10  
    tony bag o donuts's Avatar
    Resident Ringtone Maker

    Posts
    3,939 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,052 Global Posts
    ROM
    BB JB

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    yeah I just wanted to know if all I need to do is just run the superboot from the pc.
    I am already unlocked.
  11. #11  
    2defmouze's Avatar

    Posts
    5,825 Posts
    Global Posts
    5,846 Global Posts
    ROM
    AOKP

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    Quote Originally Posted by tony bag o donuts View Post
    yeah I just wanted to know if all I need to do is just run the superboot from the pc.
    I am already unlocked.
    Well.. you can manually get into bootloader by powering off, hold both volume buttons, then hold power til your in the bootloader. Then plug it in and see if you can continue from that point...

    Still I would go with Android Central instructions over droid-life any day.. I'm sure you can just skip along until you get to the root part.
  12. #12  
    xelhabb's Avatar

    Posts
    199 Posts
    Global Posts
    204 Global Posts
    ROM
    3.0.8-gaaa2611, unlocked

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    The Droid-Life forum routinely assumes you are tech oriented and their step-by-steps are routinely wrong and will get you into bad situations.

    I strongly recommend you use the steps here or the ones on XDA.

    The first sticky from DL on how to unlock the bootloader was absolutely jacked up and had me in a bad place for a day. Just be very careful. But after doing this a couple times you will find your most trusted resources. I am between here and XDA.
    Nextel Flips > Motorola Slider > Blackberry Storm 9530 > Motorola Droid X > Galaxy Nexus
  13. Thread Author  Thread Author    #13  
    Josh515's Avatar

    Posts
    134 Posts
    ROM
    AOKP / Franco.Kernel

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    Great, leave it to me to use Droid-Life's supposedly bad instructions :/. Oh well, I'm now unlocked and rooted with ClockWork Recovery, so I hope that's a good thing. Hopefully nothing goes wrong for me, I have no experience with rooting and am pretty much walking into this blindly. Though I will say that Droid-Life's updated instructions were fairly simple to follow, but if I had followed them before they were revised, I would be screwed.
  14. #14  
    tony bag o donuts's Avatar
    Resident Ringtone Maker

    Posts
    3,939 Posts
    Global Posts
    7,052 Global Posts
    ROM
    BB JB

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    Don't worry.
    Same thing happened to me.
  15. #15  

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    I have the same phone, and I would just like to temp root. I want to use an app that requires root access and after a little bit of research, I came across z4root. I am not that strong with tech, and a one click, no computers involved, temporary root is just what I was looking for. However it always force closes after starting, so I assumed Google patched or removed the ability to root with z4root. Are there any other one click no computers involved TEMPORARY root apps? Thanks
  16. #16  
    Edwill86's Avatar

    Posts
    1,216 Posts
    ROM
    Stock/Franco

    Default Re: Temp root or permanent root?

    If u get stuck or it seems just a little over your head go to wugs tools sticky. His tool kit is very easy for beginners
    Devices: Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7

Posting Permissions