% chance that VZW doesnt get the Samsung Galaxy SII??

**gregba** · 08-23-2011, 10:38 AM

What do you all think the chances are that VZW does not get the GS2? I was just over at droid life and they posted that there are rumors that VZW is skipping the GS2 in favor of the Nexus Prime.

Im not willing to switch carriers just for this phone, so I would be super upset if they dont get it.

**cmorty72#AC** · 08-23-2011, 10:44 AM

That would be rather foolish on Big Red's part if they did. Especially with all the hype that's been floating around about this device.
Rumors are rumors.
Don't believe it until you have solid concrete proof to back it.

**DolfanCole** · 08-23-2011, 10:51 AM

I'd say 0% they don't get it. It just would not make any sense to me that they would bypass the GSII for the Prime. I'm still not sold that Verizon will get the Prime, but even if they do, it still wouldn't make much sense to not carry both. The GSII is the best selling smartphone internationally. Why in the world would Verizon give that up for a device that will appeal to a much lesser group of consumers?

**Friend-O** · 08-23-2011, 11:53 AM

Agreed. Zero percent chance.

**p08757** · 08-23-2011, 12:28 PM

I would say .05% chance they won't get it. We all thought VZW was getting the HTC Merge and look what happened.

**chuckz28** · 08-23-2011, 01:59 PM

I strongly think that Verizon will not put out a GS2. There has been more Nexus information than GS2 information on Verizon.

**Serial Fordicator** · 08-23-2011, 02:22 PM

I agree. I'm thinking to try to make a new phone with LTE, when they are building a prime with LTE, makes no senseas a phone manufacturer as well as a bad timeframe to build, test and design. I mean that because LTE is new, expensive and very hard to predict.

**JayWill** · 08-23-2011, 03:03 PM

Add me to the list of 0% chance. It's not a question of if ... it's when. The only real lingering questions, which should be answered in exactly 6 days, is slider or no-slider, and LTE or 3G.

I honestly still have no clue what VZW will end up with, but I made the statement a few weeks ago that it would be a non-slider, LTE device. Then the Stratosphere buzz hit which caused me to waver. Still, LTE is more important than the slider IMO. If their SGSII doesn't have LTE it will be a flop, where it should still sell well if it's a slider.

**nemov** · 08-23-2011, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by JayWill72

Add me to the list of 0% chance. It's not a question of if ... it's when. The only real lingering questions, which should be answered in exactly 6 days, is slider or no-slider, and LTE or 3G.

Why would Samsung be feature dumping on the size and thinness of the phone and introduce a slider on Verizon? If Samsung launches a LTE slider named Stratosphere on the 8th it will not be a GS2 phone.

**Serial Fordicator** · 08-23-2011, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by nemov

Why would Samsung be feature dumping on the size and thinness of the phone and introduce a slider on Verizon? If Samsung launches a LTE slider named Stratosphere on the 8th it will not be a GS2 phone.

Why has it not passed the fcc? Because its either not coming or will be out later. The conference and ad is for other carriers.

**JayWill** · 08-23-2011, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by nemov

Why would Samsung be feature dumping on the size and thinness of the phone and introduce a slider on Verizon? If Samsung launches a LTE slider named Stratosphere on the 8th it will not be a GS2 phone.

Yeah I totally agree, but I also regularly remind myself that anything is possible in this business. Such as "Introducing the Galaxy SII on Verzion, the world's thinnest phone with a slide-out keyboard!".

**nemov** · 08-23-2011, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Serial Fordicator

Why has it not passed the fcc? Because its either not coming or will be out later. The conference and ad is for other carriers.

According to the leaked roadmap there are two Samsung phone's on the horizon. The Stratosphere and the Illusion. The Stratosphere is 4G and the Illusion is 3G. Both are supposed to be out before October.

**Kevin Gossett** · 08-23-2011, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Serial Fordicator

Why has it not passed the fcc? Because its either not coming or will be out later. The conference and ad is for other carriers.

Just because we haven't seen documents from the FCC doesn't mean it hasn't passed through yet...

**Serial Fordicator** · 08-23-2011, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by nemov

According to the leaked roadmap there are two Samsung phone's on the horizon. The Stratosphere and the Illusion. The Stratosphere is 4G and the Illusion is 3G. Both are supposed to be out before October.

Again, how accurate are these rumors and leaked roadmaps? Hardly ever any more. Here is year another one with ...gasp, no mention of a Samsung phone.

**Serial Fordicator** · 08-23-2011, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin Gossett

Just because we haven't seen documents from the FCC doesn't mean it hasn't passed through yet...

And why would Sammy keep only the VZW version hidden and not Att, Sprint or T-Mobile?

**Kevin Gossett** · 08-23-2011, 04:51 PM

Your guess is as good as mine!

**chuckz28** · 08-23-2011, 07:14 PM

IMO many of you are oblivious to the obvious and are in for a big let down by putting such high hopes on a superphone under secrecy. As I stated earlier, there has been more information about the nexus on Verizon, with much better specs, than a gs2. To keep the gs2 more secret with lower specs is not going to happen. I'm not being pessimistic I am being realist. Too many of you are blinded by optimism.

**Rominucka** · 08-24-2011, 12:21 PM

There's a better chance of Google starting their own wireless carrier and offering unlimited everything for $30 a month and selling all Android phones for no more than $100 than VZW not getting the GS2.

**nemov** · 08-24-2011, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rominucka

There's a better chance of Google starting their own wireless carrier and offering unlimited everything for $30 a month and selling all Android phones for no more than $100 than VZW not getting the GS2.

The most likely scenario is that the GS2 comes in October to VZW. The Prime if it comes at all would likely drop in January/February.

Verizon has too much invested in the Bionic to release the GS2 around the same time. It's pathetic and it's the reason I'm thinking about jumping ship. Motorola dropped the ball on the Bionic. Why should customers have to wait?

**hvalergir** · 08-24-2011, 12:36 PM

Either:
A) the GSII is not the Sept. 8 stratosphere, and will launch after Sept 9 as something else not seen on the verizon roadmap

B) Verizon is not getting the GSII, the roadmap is right and the stratosphere is something else

C) This rumor is wrong, and VZW will have the first GSii as the stratosphere on the 8th, and the first US gsii - (not likely, imo)

Now, we are finding out that the roadmap appears correct so far. My assumption is that the Stratosphere is not the gsii, and that the linked article is likely right. now, whether or not the gsii gets its release later on, as not-the-stratosphere and not-on-the-roadmap, I cannot say.

**DolfanCole** · 08-24-2011, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by hvalergir

Either:
A) the GSII is not the Sept. 8 stratosphere, and will launch after Sept 9 as something else not seen on the verizon roadmap

B) Verizon is not getting the GSII, the roadmap is right and the stratosphere is something else

C) This rumor is wrong, and VZW will have the first GSii as the stratosphere on the 8th, and the first US gsii - (not likely, imo)

Now, we are finding out that the roadmap appears correct so far. My assumption is that the Stratosphere is not the gsii, and that the linked article is likely right. now, whether or not the gsii gets its release later on, as not-the-stratosphere and not-on-the-roadmap, I cannot say.

There's also:

D) The GSII is not the Stratosphere, but the Illusion and launches on 9/29 per the roadmap.

E) The roadmap is wrong. Definitely wouldn't be the first time (nor the last).

**nemov** · 08-24-2011, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by hvalergir

Either:
A) the GSII is not the Sept. 8 stratosphere, and will launch after Sept 9 as something else not seen on the verizon roadmap

B) Verizon is not getting the GSII, the roadmap is right and the stratosphere is something else

C) This rumor is wrong, and VZW will have the first GSii as the stratosphere on the 8th, and the first US gsii - (not likely, imo)

Now, we are finding out that the roadmap appears correct so far. My assumption is that the Stratosphere is not the gsii, and that the linked article is likely right. now, whether or not the gsii gets its release later on, as not-the-stratosphere and not-on-the-roadmap, I cannot say.

There is literally no information on the Stratosphere. It doesn't even matter what kind of phone it is there's nothing leaked on it. The Bionic is likely coming out on the 8th and there's leaked images, promos, and an endless supply of info.

I think the roadmap is likely a hoax. The only thing it was right about was the Bionic and that date was the widely rumored before it leaked.

If the Stratosphere was coming on the 9th wouldn't we know more about it by now?

**hvalergir** · 08-24-2011, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by DolfanCole

There's also:

D) The GSII is not the Stratosphere, but the Illusion and launches on 9/29 per the roadmap.

E) The roadmap is wrong. Definitely wouldn't be the first time (nor the last).

aye, it is certainly an inclusive list.

**nrk** · 08-24-2011, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by chuckz28

IMO many of you are oblivious to the obvious and are in for a big let down by putting such high hopes on a superphone under secrecy. As I stated earlier, there has been more information about the nexus on Verizon, with much better specs, than a gs2. To keep the gs2 more secret with lower specs is not going to happen. I'm not being pessimistic I am being realist. Too many of you are blinded by optimism.

This.

I am super-hyped about this phone (and if available, I likely will get it over the Bionic assuming its LTE), but I also have been much more pessimistic about its appearance on VZW in the next weeks. I guess we will (hopefully) find out more Monday, but I'm not holding my breath.

**gregba** · 08-24-2011, 01:25 PM

longest.week.ever. waiting for this Galaxy S II conference.

I just hope we know for sure after this if VZW will be getting it and when. I am sitting on my upgrade and want a new phone. Bionic will be my 2nd choice.