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    Default The iphone 4S is a big opportunity for Samsung and Android

    As the iphone 4S is just an incremental update, I think this represents a great opportunity for Samsung and Google to really show off their hardware and software, but only if the make a real effort to show what their OS can do, and not market it with a bunch of BS hollywood special effects. They should show what's different about the Android OS and the cutting edge 720p hardware and dump a lot of money into advertising. There's a lot of disappointed geeks out there today who would consider the Prime if they knew more about it.
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    I'm an iPad 2 owner so I stop by some Apple sites on occasion....people are PISSED.
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    I was already leaning toward the Prime anyway but, this news just seals it. I hope it doesn't disappoint.
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    iPhone 4s=Motorola Droid X2. Nice phone, but nothing but a refresh. No 4G, same design. I mean there advertising the camera for goodness sake. It's a phone. iOS5 will be out on Oct 12 so i see alot of iPhone 4 users who will be just as happy. They have the same phone basically lol
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    I agree, this is a golden opportunity for Android in general, and the Nexus brand in particular.

    The funny thing is that the 4s is a pretty major upgrade...but since it looks the same it will be hard to market to the iPhone user base.
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    Oh man. Unless iPhone 4S comes in at $100, this is just what Google needed...a huge mistake by Apple.
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    I think I heard a collective WTF after the announcement.

    I agree. This is a great opportunity for Android, in general, to take even more of the marketshare. There will always be iPhone fanboys. But, to have such a small incremental update has to disappoint quite a few. Aside from the OS, I also think that the 4G, LTE, WiMax, etc. in other Android phones offer a much faster connection than the iPhone will/does. And they'll keep that market niche for a while now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBearPig618 View Post
    I'm an iPad 2 owner so I stop by some Apple sites on occasion....people are PISSED.
    Me too. I am looking forward to ios5 on my ipad and wife's iphone 4, and I actually like the new clock faces on the nano, but android is where it's at.
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    And I imagine their A5 is still only clocked at 900mhz-1ghz, so they're behind on that front. But regardless, Siri looked pretty god damned cool. If Android copies it, it should have a Cortana avatar.
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    Why would a satisfied iPhone user switch phones? I don't see it happening. Nothing to see here, move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopai View Post
    And I imagine their A5 is still only clocked at 900mhz-1ghz, so they're behind on that front. But regardless, Siri looked pretty god damned cool. If Android copies it, it should have a Cortana avatar.
    That would be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flashpiti View Post
    Me too. I am looking forward to ios5 on my ipad and wife's iphone 4, and I actually like the new clock faces on the nano, but android is where it's at.
    I'm in the same boat. I'm excited about all the fancy new features coming for my iPad that are already available on my android phone.

    I still won't buy an android tablet, though. The OS and market need to mature a bit more. Very excited about the Nexus Prime, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nemov View Post
    Why would a satisfied iPhone user switch phones? I don't see it happening. Nothing to see here, move on.
    It's the folks who aren't satisfied or who have never had a smartphone that I'm talking about. Also, you'd be surprised how many people on tipb are considering the prime.
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    So now that the big MEH has happened.. who is ready for that we have in store?! #primekills
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    I don't know. With Apple and the iPhone, even a smaller type upgrade, like this one should be plenty for them to sell all that they can make. There weren't too many surprises I think. Most of us figured they wouldn't have any LTE. About the only "surprise" was that they stayed with the 3.5" screen. Even that isn't too surprising. Meanwhile, they added:
    - a faster processor
    - much faster GPU
    - better and faster camera
    - fairly cool interactive speech assistant

    Add in iOS 5 and other fixes (antenna, etc), and trust me, this will still sell like wildfire. So to me the "opportunity" may only be that Apple didn't introduce some crazy new hardware spec (like last year's retina display) that Android devices would then race to meet.

    As has been said by some, current iOS users will probably get the 4S I would bet. Just remember it's almost NEVER about specs with Apple and iphone users. It's the user experience that keeps the customers and gets new ones....
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    Now we know why Steve Jobs quit.
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    The thing people forget is that we the geeks of tipb and androidcentral are the vast minority. Most people will buy the phone that has the best marketing, which at this point is the iPhone.

    Even among the geeks of the world, many don't know the power of android. I work for a software company, and it blows me away how many tech savvy people have no idea what they are missing with iOS instead of Android. I talked to a couple of my coworkers the other day about Tasker (amazing app if you aren't familiar). They were absolutely floored by what it can do. But the fact remains, they had no idea.

    Google/Verizon/Samsung need to generate hype with something other than technical specs. Apple does it right. What I would really like to see happen is for Google and Verizon to dump a ton of money into marketing the Prime, and focus on someone other than geeks. Probably won't happen, though.

    I mean, look at the Droid Bionic commercials. It's like they're trying to market to Anime convention attendees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsignori View Post
    IJust remember it's almost NEVER about specs with Apple and iphone users. It's the user experience that keeps the customers and gets new ones....
    That's actually going to be Apple's problem this time: this point upgrade appears to the average user to be just about specs (faster processor, faster graphics!). I'm sure they'll still sell a lot, but how much growth they have (i.e. how much market share they cede to Android) prior to the iPhone 5 is going to live and die on how much appeal Siri has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsignori View Post
    I don't know. With Apple and the iPhone, even a smaller type upgrade, like this one should be plenty for them to sell all that they can make. There weren't too many surprises I think. Most of us figured they wouldn't have any LTE. About the only "surprise" was that they stayed with the 3.5" screen. Even that isn't too surprising. Meanwhile, they added:
    - a faster processor
    - much faster GPU
    - better and faster camera
    - fairly cool interactive speech assistant

    Add in iOS 5 and other fixes (antenna, etc), and trust me, this will still sell like wildfire. So to me the "opportunity" may only be that Apple didn't introduce some crazy new hardware spec (like last year's retina display) that Android devices would then race to meet.

    As has been said by some, current iOS users will probably get the 4S I would bet. Just remember it's almost NEVER about specs with Apple and iphone users. It's the user experience that keeps the customers and gets new ones....
    Some will but, I have a Iphone 4 and I won't. I probably shouldn't count myself because - while I like the Iphone - I've never been what you would call a fanboy (me being here is evidence of that LOL!!!). I'm seriously thinking about the Bionic now and, the Nexus Prime. This announcement make things a lot easier now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ottscay View Post
    That's actually going to be Apple's problem this time: this point upgrade appears to the average user to be just about specs (faster processor, faster graphics!). I'm sure they'll still sell a lot, but how much growth they have (i.e. how much market share they cede to Android) prior to the iPhone 5 is going to live and die on how much appeal Siri has.
    I wonder if they did this to try to lure some of the spec-junkies away from Android? More than likely I'm wrong, but it's something to chew on.
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    I think the screen size is the big deal breaker.. even a bump to 3.7" or 4" would have been really nice..

    No matter how fast the CPU or GPU, or how good the clarity is.. the 3.5" screen is just limp in 2011.

    I wonder if Apple's falling out with Samsung and most of the other screen manufacturers building their own high end Android lines that they're having trouble finding a replacement for the Retina Display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qnet View Post
    Some will but, I have a Iphone 4 and I won't. I probably shouldn't count myself because - while I like the Iphone - I've never been what you would call a fanboy (me being here is evidence of that LOL!!!). I'm seriously thinking about the Bionic now and, the Nexus Prime. This announcement make things a lot easier now.
    Glad to hear :-). Come back to the light :-). Yeah, I meant for the normal iOS users, non-geeks (people not on phone forums ), none of that matters. I will be shocked if the iPhone 4S doesn't sell 100 million devices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsignori View Post
    Glad to hear :-). Come back to the light :-). Yeah, I meant for the normal iOS users, non-geeks (people not on phone forums ), none of that matters. I will be shocked if the iPhone 4S doesn't sell 100 million devices.
    I'm sure it will sell a ton, I just think that Google needs to make a compelling argument through smart marketing why Android is a viable alternative to ios in terms of user experience, and hopefully ICS will provide that experience. ios is still much more polished (imo) than android.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsignori View Post
    I don't know. With Apple and the iPhone, even a smaller type upgrade, like this one should be plenty for them to sell all that they can make. There weren't too many surprises I think. Most of us figured they wouldn't have any LTE. About the only "surprise" was that they stayed with the 3.5" screen. Even that isn't too surprising. Meanwhile, they added:
    - a faster processor
    - much faster GPU
    - better and faster camera
    - fairly cool interactive speech assistant

    Add in iOS 5 and other fixes (antenna, etc), and trust me, this will still sell like wildfire. So to me the "opportunity" may only be that Apple didn't introduce some crazy new hardware spec (like last year's retina display) that Android devices would then race to meet.

    As has been said by some, current iOS users will probably get the 4S I would bet. Just remember it's almost NEVER about specs with Apple and iphone users. It's the user experience that keeps the customers and gets new ones....
    The dual core processor is like putting a 350 HP V8 on a VW. The platform is an app launcher and all that power is gonna do is soak the battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrhartjr View Post
    I think the screen size is the big deal breaker.. even a bump to 3.7" or 4" would have been really nice..

    No matter how fast the CPU or GPU, or how good the clarity is.. the 3.5" screen is just limp in 2011.
    Screen size was the big deal to me, as well as 4G.

    Quote Originally Posted by dsignori View Post
    Glad to hear :-). Come back to the light :-). Yeah, I meant for the normal iOS users, non-geeks (people not on phone forums ), none of that matters. I will be shocked if the iPhone 4S doesn't sell 100 million devices.
    I think it will still sell a lot, their are a lot of people who still don't have iphones or still have the 3GS models. Sprint users are probably happy also.
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