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    Default Verizon Questions for the GNex, coming from ATT.

    All,

    I will be moving to VZW from ATT for this, and since this phone has untainted Google services, i should ask you guys what kind of plan i may need for the GNex.

    1 - I have heard that you don't need to purchase a text bundle from VZW but can use free text allocation from Google or other sources. What do you do, and what are your pros & cons to report? VZW may charge about $5/mo for 250 texts.

    2 - VZW Visual Voicemail is listed as an add-on per month at BB's site (just checking out details for general Sammy phones... no the GNex is not live on the site as i write this). Is this anything to consider, or something to pass on (I have a feeling I know the answer, but I'm totally new to Android, so gotta ask)?

    3 - GVoice/Youmail... i had both on my iphone for a day each, but integration is poor at best, so i dropped both. Are these a full replacement for Visual Voicemail or whatever? I'm obviously confused on options as I try to plan my needs. I prefer good integration and ease of use... no major bells/whistles needed, although I'd consider anything if the price is right.

    4 - Like most here going 2yr contract, my options appear to be VZW & BB stores. Is there any benefit or advantage to either for me, coming from ATT (out of contract)?

    Thanks very much... I searched first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zero. View Post
    All,

    I will be moving to VZW from ATT for this, and since this phone has untainted Google services, i should ask you guys what kind of plan i may need for the GNex.

    1 - I have heard that you don't need to purchase a text bundle from VZW but can use free text allocation from Google or other sources. What do you do, and what are your pros & cons to report? VZW may charge about $5/mo for 250 texts.

    2 - VZW Visual Voicemail is listed as an add-on per month at BB's site (just checking out details for general Sammy phones... no the GNex is not live on the site as i write this). Is this anything to consider, or something to pass on (I have a feeling I know the answer, but I'm totally new to Android, so gotta ask)?

    3 - GVoice/Youmail... i had both on my iphone for a day each, but integration is poor at best, so i dropped both. Are these a full replacement for Visual Voicemail or whatever? I'm obviously confused on options as I try to plan my needs. I prefer good integration and ease of use... no major bells/whistles needed, although I'd consider anything if the price is right.

    4 - Like most here going 2yr contract, my options appear to be VZW & BB stores. Is there any benefit or advantage to either for me, coming from ATT (out of contract)?

    Thanks very much... I searched first!
    1. VZW will require that you get a data pack which is below, smart phones start at $30.00 for 2GB:

    Data (For Basic Phones and Smartphones)

    Includes web, email and any other Internet use.

    Data Allowance Monthly Access Overage
    Pay Per Use (For Basic Phones Only) $1.99/MB Personal Email $5
    75MB (For Basic Phones Only) $10 $10/75MB
    2GB $30 $10/1GB -
    5GB $50 $10/1GB
    10GB $80 $10/1GB
    4GB (Includes Mobile Hotspot) $50 $10/1GB
    7GB (Includes Mobile Hotspot) $70 $10/1GB
    12GB (Includes Mobile Hotspot) $100 $10/1GB

    Now I thought messaging was included with the smartphone as I have unlimited and don't have a separate messaging plan, but don't see that on the website. Maybe someone else can confirm what it's like for new customers.

    2. Yes, it's extra but Google Voice is free.

    3. Google Voice is most likely better integrated on Android than it was on Iphone. I've never used an Iphone so I can't say for sure.

    4. There are some people around here that have experience with both, I do not so I won't comment.

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    Default Re: Verizon Questions for the GNex, coming from ATT.

    Quote Originally Posted by zero. View Post
    All,

    I will be moving to VZW from ATT for this, and since this phone has untainted Google services, i should ask you guys what kind of plan i may need for the GNex.

    1 - I have heard that you don't need to purchase a text bundle from VZW but can use free text allocation from Google or other sources. What do you do, and what are your pros & cons to report? VZW may charge about $5/mo for 250 texts.

    2 - VZW Visual Voicemail is listed as an add-on per month at BB's site (just checking out details for general Sammy phones... no the GNex is not live on the site as i write this). Is this anything to consider, or something to pass on (I have a feeling I know the answer, but I'm totally new to Android, so gotta ask)?

    3 - GVoice/Youmail... i had both on my iphone for a day each, but integration is poor at best, so i dropped both. Are these a full replacement for Visual Voicemail or whatever? I'm obviously confused on options as I try to plan my needs. I prefer good integration and ease of use... no major bells/whistles needed, although I'd consider anything if the price is right.

    4 - Like most here going 2yr contract, my options appear to be VZW & BB stores. Is there any benefit or advantage to either for me, coming from ATT (out of contract)?

    Thanks very much... I searched first!
    If you have a Google Voice account you can use it to text for free. It goes through data and will not work without a data connection. It will also be sent from your Google Voice number. As of right now I don't think MMS works with Google Voice.

    For visual voicemail I would just signup for a Google Voice account and route your missed calls to it. You use the Google Voice app to read and listen to your voicemail. Having to pay for Verizons voicemail app does not make sense. I believe with ICS Google Voice gets integrated into a lot more of the system.

    I like to buy from Best Buy because you have 30 days to exchange rather then 14 with Verizon. Its not a big deal right now because anything bought right now at Verizon can be returned until 1/15 so that does not apply for the Nexus.
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    Not to dodge your questions but before we start on them is the Gnex the reason you are moving? If so see AC home page as apparently an ATT Gnex just passed through FCC. At current rate ATT may have before VZW.

    Let us know and we will start on your list.
    Waiting for the G-Nex
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas o View Post
    Not to dodge your questions but before we start on them is the Gnex the reason you are moving? If so see AC home page as apparently an ATT Gnex just passed through FCC. At current rate ATT may have before VZW.

    Let us know and we will start on your list.
    That raises a good point, but just because it passed thru FCC does not mean it's going to be on ATT in the next week...even Phil's article said that
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    Default Re: Verizon Questions for the GNex, coming from ATT.

    and I'm not trying to start some flame war so if you're offended by comment, please take a breath and think about it. It seems to be a common misconception in this forum right now that the FCC with the other radio bands means the phone is right around the corner. But just as we don't know exactly when it's coming to VZW, we have no idea when it's going to the other carriers, as it's not even announced yet.
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    No offense. Just at the current rate VZW is moving ATT might get it first (unlikely but possible)
    Waiting for the G-Nex
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    Default Re: Verizon Questions for the GNex, coming from ATT.

    Quote Originally Posted by jas o View Post
    Not to dodge your questions but before we start on them is the Gnex the reason you are moving? If so see AC home page as apparently an ATT Gnex just passed through FCC. At current rate ATT may have before VZW.

    Let us know and we will start on your list.
    fair enough.
    if AT&T had this phone, or another similar spec phone with untainted Android (ICS preferably, or a promise for a new year update to ICS), then i would stay with AT&T. the Nitro HD has made no such promises, although it may be clean and may get ICS. but an FCC application or approval for the GNex means nothing to me at this point. and some believe that FCC application may be for the Canadian market. also, some believe this VZW GNex will be one of very few phones this year with a pure untainted Android experience, and updates coming from Google.

    i don't have problems with AT&T, but what's keeping me there? nothing. so, for my next phone, i'm most concerned with stuff not getting messed up by the carrier, whichever it is in the end. AT&T is behind the 8 ball to me, because i have not been tempted yet by press releases or leaks promising anything at all. until that happens and i see worth in AT&T's lineup, i'm going for the GNex even if i have to switch carriers to get it.

    i'm now off contract with AT&T, so i can switch as easily as giving Verizon or Best Buy my acct # and saying GO. watcha think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zero. View Post
    fair enough.
    if AT&T had this phone, or another similar spec phone with untainted Android (ICS preferably, or a promise for a new year update to ICS), then i would stay with AT&T. the Nitro HD has made no such promises, although it may be clean and may get ICS. but an FCC application or approval for the GNex means nothing to me at this point. and some believe that FCC application may be for the Canadian market. also, some believe this VZW GNex will be one of very few phones this year with a pure untainted Android experience, and updates coming from Google.

    i don't have problems with AT&T, but what's keeping me there? nothing. so, for my next phone, i'm most concerned with stuff not getting messed up by the carrier, whichever it is in the end. AT&T is behind the 8 ball to me, because i have not been tempted yet by press releases or leaks promising anything at all. until that happens and i see worth in AT&T's lineup, i'm going for the GNex even if i have to switch carriers to get it.

    i'm now off contract with AT&T, so i can switch as easily as giving Verizon or Best Buy my acct # and saying GO. watcha think?
    I'd say the only downfall is if you still had unlimited data through AT&T and were losing that to go to VZW.
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    Default Re: Verizon Questions for the GNex, coming from ATT.

    Quote Originally Posted by hyminameisderek View Post
    I'd say the only downfall is if you still had unlimited data through AT&T and were losing that to go to VZW.
    no unlimited data. with my iP 3GS i typically use far less than 2GB/mo. pricing for my needs appears the same between between the two more or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zero. View Post
    no unlimited data. with my iP 3GS i typically use far less than 2GB/mo. pricing for my needs appears the same between between the two more or less.
    That being the case, you can't go wrong with the GN on VZW. Better coverage, 4G, and a spanking awesome phone.

    Win, win, win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeUserTX View Post
    That being the case, you can't go wrong with the GN on VZW. Better coverage, 4G, and a spanking awesome phone.

    Win, win, win. Click to view quoted image
    I second that.
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    Default Re: Verizon Questions for the GNex, coming from ATT.

    Although I guess it should be said...

    a) Does VZW offer good coverage in your area?
    b) Is 4G in your area?
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    Default Re: Verizon Questions for the GNex, coming from ATT.

    Quote Originally Posted by hyminameisderek View Post
    Although I guess it should be said...

    a) Does VZW offer good coverage in your area?
    b) Is 4G in your area?
    i'm in Dallas, so that's a big yes.

    how bout this one?:
    [BOX="quote"]4 - Like most here going 2yr contract, my options appear to be VZW & BB stores. Is there any benefit or advantage to either for me, coming from ATT (out of contract)?[/BOX]
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    +1 on Google Voice. I use it just for voicemail (visual) with the app, keeping my VZW number with it. Works great IMO.

    Depending on which phone plan you get, I have unlimited text/ mms within my minutes plan. I'd have to look it up, but the texting is pretty cheap as an add on.

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    I only know about Best Buy from what I've read on these forums. My consensus is:

    1) you usually get a longer window to exchange your phone with Best Buy, although Verizon has extended theirs from 15 days until 01/15 because of the Holidays.
    2) Best Buy has been known to sell the phone at a higher price and not price match
    3) Best Buy offers better Warranty Services

    I think it's a preference and I don't know if all of that is fact, just stuff I remember reading throughout here as a lot of people have been bringing up Best Buy vs. Verizon direct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grayzweb View Post
    +1 on Google Voice. I use it just for voicemail (visual) with the app, keeping my VZW number with it. Works great IMO.

    Depending on which phone plan you get, I have unlimited text/ mms within my minutes plan. I'd have to look it up, but the texting is pretty cheap as an add on.

    Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
    I remember when I got my Droid 1, they made me alter my plan so that instead of having unlimited text and my minutes separately that they were packaged together.

    Here's what mine looks like:

    My Voice Plan

    NATIONWIDE TALK & TEXT 450$49.79/mo
    $59.99/mo Change Minutes

    Plan Includes:
    $59.99 Monthly Access Charge
    450 Monthly Allowance Minutes
    Per Minute Rate After Allowance: $0.45/min. Peak , $0.45/min. Off-Peak

    My Messaging Plan

    Unl Text Messaging Included

    Change Messaging


    My Data Plan

    Unlimited Data $23.99/mo
    $29.99/mo

    It says Messaging Included. The first rate on there is at an employer discount, so if you don't have a discount then you are looking at the higher prices.
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    If Goggle Voice on an iPod Touch is anything like it is on an iPhone, the Android experience will be much more seemless for you on Android. I imported my number last year and it's been a great experience. You text through the GV app rather than your messaging app, and your voicemail appears transcribed in the same inbox your incoming texts do. If you set GV to "make all calls," you still use the regular dialer app but a little box pops up indicating the call is being made with GV. In terms of calls received via your GV number, there is no difference between that and calls to the number Verizon will assign to your phone. It's really seemless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Small_law View Post
    If Goggle Voice on an iPod Touch is anything like it is on an iPhone, the Android experience will be much more seemless for you on Android. I imported my number last year and it's been a great experience. You text through the GV app rather than your messaging app, and your voicemail appears transcribed in the same inbox your incoming texts do. If you set GV to "make all calls," you still use the regular dialer app but a little box pops up indicating the call is being made with GV. In terms of calls received via your GV number, there is no difference between that and calls to the number Verizon will assign to your phone. It's really seemless.
    the integration & customization is what finally sold me on switching. within the context of modern smart phones, my iphone has just about no integration. being that i'm a google user and never a mac user, this is the obvious choice for me, unless another clean ICS phone is announced soon.

    thank you all for the help!
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    Wow I cant believe nobody mentioned the double the data promotion which is going on right now. You get 4GB for the price you would normally get 2 for.. Best time to switch which is why im considering it. You may use more data with LTE...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zero. View Post
    4 - Like most here going 2yr contract, my options appear to be VZW & BB stores. Is there any benefit or advantage to either for me, coming from ATT (out of contract)?

    Thanks very much... I searched first!
    Last I checked:
    BBY/VZW

    30 day exchange, 14 day cancellation/14 day exchange, 14 day cancellation
    No mail-in rebate/$100 MiR

    $10 monthly service plan, does not cover lost and stolen, does cover cracks, breaks etc, no deductible, NEW phone in 14 days, refurb phone quicker/$5 or $7 monthly insurance, covers lost and stolen, no water damage, deductible up to $150, refurb phone only

    Even if you buy the phone at bestbuy, you can add VZWs insurance, not the otherway around.
    Bestbuy also has buyback based upon off-contract prices... so if you're going to upgrade very frequently, that might be something to consider.


    Haven't checked in a while though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zero. View Post
    1 - I have heard that you don't need to purchase a text bundle from VZW but can use free text allocation from Google or other sources. What do you do, and what are your pros & cons to report? VZW may charge about $5/mo for 250 texts.

    2 - VZW Visual Voicemail is listed as an add-on per month at BB's site (just checking out details for general Sammy phones... no the GNex is not live on the site as i write this). Is this anything to consider, or something to pass on (I have a feeling I know the answer, but I'm totally new to Android, so gotta ask)?

    3 - GVoice/Youmail... i had both on my iphone for a day each, but integration is poor at best, so i dropped both. Are these a full replacement for Visual Voicemail or whatever? I'm obviously confused on options as I try to plan my needs. I prefer good integration and ease of use... no major bells/whistles needed, although I'd consider anything if the price is right.

    4 - Like most here going 2yr contract, my options appear to be VZW & BB stores. Is there any benefit or advantage to either for me, coming from ATT (out of contract)?
    1. I'm not sure if the 250 Text bundle includes MMS. Last I know it didn't. I assume you are porting your number, otherwise you can text for free with Google Voice. (If you have to give out a new number, give out your GV number) You can have your GV number ring directly to your phones number, and call from it, but I think you have to use data/wifi for outgoing calls.

    2. Use Google Voice for this for sure.

    3. Again, highly recommend GV. You can at least use GV to take Voice Mails on your phone. This is the only part I use. It gives you a visual VM on the device so you can read it or listen to it on the GV app. You can have notifications sent to you by text message, email (or regular android notifications) and can even have GV track missed calls and send you notifications for those. (Miss a call it sends you an email)

    4. I would say VZW because of the extended return policy for the Holidays (I usually buy online anyways so I can't give a great opinion here). I just tend to feel more competent that 90% of BB employees.
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    If you have grandfathered unlimited data dont move get a galaxy s2 or wait for a galaxy s 3.Otherwise switch while there is a 4gb data plan then pay the 35 dollar restock for the Nexus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon4EK View Post
    Last I checked:
    BBY/VZW

    30 day exchange, 14 day cancellation/14 day exchange, 14 day cancellation
    No mail-in rebate/$100 MiR

    $10 monthly service plan, does not cover lost and stolen, does cover cracks, breaks etc, no deductible, NEW phone in 14 days, refurb phone quicker/$5 or $7 monthly insurance, covers lost and stolen, no water damage, deductible up to $150, refurb phone only

    Even if you buy the phone at bestbuy, you can add VZWs insurance, not the otherway around.
    Bestbuy also has buyback based upon off-contract prices... so if you're going to upgrade very frequently, that might be something to consider.


    Haven't checked in a while though.
    i would go to costco if you have one in your area get the 50 dollar membership when you get the phone it will still be worth it.90 day return policy and no restocking fee.
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    fair enough.
    if AT&T had this phone, or another similar spec phone with untainted Android (ICS preferably, or a promise for a new year update to ICS), then i would stay with AT&T. the Nitro HD has made no such promises, although it may be clean and may get ICS. but an FCC application or approval for the GNex means nothing to me at this point. and some believe that FCC application may be for the Canadian market. also, some believe this VZW GNex will be one of very few phones this year with a pure untainted Android experience, and updates coming from Google.

    i don't have problems with AT&T, but what's keeping me there? nothing. so, for my next phone, i'm most concerned with stuff not getting messed up by the carrier, whichever it is in the end. AT&T is behind the 8 ball to me, because i have not been tempted yet by press releases or leaks promising anything at all. until that happens and i see worth in AT&T's lineup, i'm going for the GNex even if i have to switch carriers to get it.

    i'm now off contract with AT&T, so i can switch as easily as giving Verizon or Best Buy my acct # and saying GO. watcha think?
    LG has stated which phones they will update to ICS, and I'm sure with the Nitro HD being it's best phone yet, I guarantee this will get ICS. Also the Samsung Skyrocket will get ICS, as will the Vivid(Taken with a grain of salt do to the sense factor). And as you know LG and Samsung phones are the easiest to root and put an AOSP ROM on.

    I'd stick to AT&T and get one of them, you get a better camera to start with the Skyrocket (which will only get better with ICS or CM9) You have built in 16GB and you can get a 32GB MicroSDHC (SanDisk Class 4[preferred by XDA]) for about $38 on Amazon.com. That gives you the about 45 Usable GB's of on board storage, and there is always cloud services. Then you also have TouchWiz 4.0 which is basically a downgraded version of ICS. Did I mention the likelihood of LTE coming to your neighborhood?

    The LG Nitro, not sure on specs cause it didn't really interest me. I know you have an HD screen, and now until March 2012, you can get 50GB of cloud storage for free with Box.net.
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