[Ken7]

We all know the Nexus was delayed and we've never been 100% sure why.

We now know that Verizon has just acknowledged a reception problem exists in the Nexus. So with that information, here are my questions:

* How is it that Verizon never saw the reception issue during testing? They have the reputation of testing, testing again, and testing much more before a phone is finally released. THIS eluded them??? So many people are seeing this issue across the country and THIS eluded them? Please tell me how this is possible with a company that has the reputation of being 'anal' about pre-release testing.

* Let's assume they knew the problem existed. Why wasn't it fixed if, as many people 'in the know' are saying, it's software based? OR, do they really know the issue is hardware-based and not much can be done. Perhaps the reception can be 'tweaked' in software, but if it's hardware, VZW knows damn well it won't be fixed. They have no intention of recalling all these phones.

* Let's not put all the blame on VZW, after all Samsung built it in conjunction with Google's input and specs. So how is it that neither of these entities saw the problem. Nobody saw it, nobody?

Am I the only one that thinks this is very very strange. If my logic is flawed, I'd be happy to be set straight on this.

[zxphenomenalxz]

im pretty positive it is not hardware related. I had a Droid Charge and from my understanding uses the same radio as Nexus and I never once had a problem with my Charge radio after some updates.

[majiklantrn]

I've had signal issues with all cell phones which eventually did get fixed with patches. My wifes DINC2 showed zero signal bars when home, now it shows full signal. My thunderbolt had LTE issues, that has been resolved. Iphone 4 showed improper signal because AT&T sucks, so that doesn't count.

Hopefully the GNex will get its issues resolved soon. Then again, I don't want it to get resolved because what else are going to grip about. Sucks being human!

[nemov]

I think the "reception issues" are overblown.

However, Verizon is having MAJOR issues with its LTE network. They keep having outages.

[kcoan3]

read this... there most likely is not a problem... the phone is actually showing lte signal where every other phone is showing cdma signal strength.

[majiklantrn]

I think the "reception issues" are overblown.

However, Verizon is having MAJOR issues with its LTE network. They keep having outages.

I blame the economy... or better yet, I blame "Occupy" for the outages.

[dubge]

I blame the economy... or better yet, I blame "Occupy" for the outages.

They are occupying space and blocking our signal........damn it!

[oxymoron]

I blame country music and light beer.... especially when the two are combined.

That my friends, is a recipe for disaster.

*customized tapatalk signature*

[PostmanPat]

read this... there most likely is not a problem... the phone is actually showing lte signal where every other phone is showing cdma signal strength.

^ this is good advice....

I'm not trying to make anyone jealous but the reception on my phone has been great. I've put a custom ROM on it so I get 5 bars where everyone else only gets 4, that's one more, so I must get better reception than everyone else...

[st0ic_1]

Judging reception by bars is the newb way of doing it!

[Holsum]

We all know the Nexus was delayed and we've never been 100% sure why.

We now know that Verizon has just acknowledged a reception problem exists in the Nexus. So with that information, here are my questions:
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Please show me where Verizon says there is a reception problem. all the fix is going to do is show MORE BARS in the same exact areas that are showing less now. the signal strength is going to stay the same.

why dont people READ. i feel like i get dumber everytime I come to these forums.

[st0ic_1]

Please show me where Verizon says there is a reception problem. all the fix is going to do is show MORE BARS in the same exact areas that are showing less now. the signal strength is going to stay the same.

why dont people READ. i feel like i get dumber everytime I come to these forums.

Something I don't want. As long as my data is working well, and voice is gtg.. I don't give a damn how many bars it shows. In my eye's, all the other phones have a jacked up signal bar issue.

[Ken7]

im pretty positive it is not hardware related. I had a Droid Charge and from my understanding uses the same radio as Nexus and I never once had a problem with my Charge radio after some updates.

And my Charge never did any better with the updates.

[Ken7]

I think the "reception issues" are overblown.

However, Verizon is having MAJOR issues with its LTE network. They keep having outages.

"Overblown"? Really? There are not too many I'd wish reception problems on with the Nexus like many of us are having, but for you I might make an exception.

Gotta love guys that think everyone else is nuts because they have no issues. Unreal.

[DroidXcon]

http://www.androidcentral.com/verizo...not-us-its-you

Its also possible that because the phone reads signal so well it is not switching to LTE when 3g is stronger. Where as other phones are not as accurate and switch to 4g giving the appearence that the nexus is slacking when in fact its just staying on the dominant data signal.

Just saying....

[Ken7]

read this... there most likely is not a problem... the phone is actually showing lte signal where every other phone is showing cdma signal strength.

This has been discussed endlessly. The bottom line is that regardless of what that article says about the signal display, the Nexus IS having problems in MANY marginal signal areas where other 4G phones don't.

I frequently go to a mall where the Rezound had zero problems holding on to a 4G signal. My Nexus rarely gets a 4G signal anywhere in that same mall.

Guys, this is a real problem whether those that are not experiencing it want to believe it or not. Hell, I even had a VZW sales guy tell me they are well aware of the issue IN THE STORE. They see it all the time as the Nexus drops 4G and the other 4G phones (even the cheapo $99 4G phone) holds on to it.

[DroidXcon]

I frequently go to a mall where the Rezound had zero problems holding on to a 4G signal. My Nexus rarely gets a 4G signal anywhere in that same mall.

Guys, this is a real problem whether those that are not experiencing it want to believe it or not. Hell, I even had a VZW sales guy tell me they are well aware of the issue IN THE STORE. They see it all the time as the Nexus drops 4G and the other 4G phones (even the cheapo $99 4G phone) holds on to it.

thats what im saying, perhaps the other phones are grabbing tail end of 4g signal when they shouldnt be. So despite it having being in the top end of 3g signal it switches to 4g because its available instead of choosing the dominant signal in the area you are in.

[Ken7]

Please show me where Verizon says there is a reception problem. all the fix is going to do is show MORE BARS in the same exact areas that are showing less now. the signal strength is going to stay the same.

why dont people READ. i feel like i get dumber everytime I come to these forums.

You have no idea what you're talking about. How do you know that's what Verizon is going to do? If they did, it would not change the reception one iota and people will be screaming just as loudly and Verizon will be getting the same negative press they're getting now. That 'trick' is now well known and that dog no longer hunts.

Just so you know, Verizon DID acknowledge the issue and it was WIDELY reported. Man, this thread has some of the most obstinate deniers of this issue I've seen on any forum, on any thread. It's not the signal #s, it's not the bars, IT'S THE NEXUS' INABILITY TO HOLD ON TO A 4G SIGNAL WHERE OTHER PHONES CAN.

Sorry to those that can think clearly for the screaming, but for some people here it's the only way to get through. They read one article and they 'think' there is no issue and they fully understand everything there is to understand about RF.

[Ken7]

Something I don't want. As long as my data is working well, and voice is gtg.. I don't give a damn how many bars it shows. In my eye's, all the other phones have a jacked up signal bar issue.

Right, tell that to me who experienced first-hand the Rezound holding on to 4G where the Nexus could not.

[Ken7]

http://www.androidcentral.com/verizo...not-us-its-you

Its also possible that because the phone reads signal so well it is not switching to LTE when 3g is stronger. Where as other phones are not as accurate and switch to 4g giving the appearence that the nexus is slacking when in fact its just staying on the dominant data signal.

Just saying....

No, my Rezound clearly held on to a very very viable 4G signal where the Nexus couldn't. There is no reason, given the quality of the signal and speed of that signal as shown by the Rezound, that the Nexus should ever have shifted away from 4G. The Rezound blew away my Nexus for speed in those areas because the 4G signal was real, solid and very viable.

If the Nexus switches away from a good 4G signal so easily, then it is flawed and the issue should be addressed. Yes it wasn't the strongest 4G signal that the Rezound was receiving, but the quality was excellent given its behavior. This was not a 'tail end', relatively useless 4G signal, it was still FAR superior to the 3G the Nexus reverted to.

[DroidXcon]

Ken relax, you may be right and it may be the phone. or perhaps there are other explanations.
Everyone needs to take a breather.

No one wants to believe when they make a purchase that something is wrong. Some people try to justify their purchase while others want to find something to blame.

But neither is right or wrong.

I choose to believe that there is more to the story then that it just doesnt hold 4g because i am getting faster speed than my friends thunderbolt holding 4g while my Gnex is holding 3g. But all my pages open faster and i download faster so to me there is something else behind all this.

[Ken7]

Ken relax, you may be right and it may be the phone. or perhaps there are other explanations.
Everyone needs to take a breather.

No one wants to believe when they make a purchase that something is wrong. Some people try to justify their purchase while others want to find something to blame.

But neither is right or wrong.

I choose to believe that there is more to the story then that it just doesnt hold 4g because i am getting faster speed than my friends thunderbolt holding 4g while my Gnex is holding 3g. But all my pages open faster and i download faster so to me there is something else behind all this.

Actually my biggest gripe are the guys (not you) on these forums that bury their head in the sand. It's the old 'mine if fine, but you must be crazy'. Hell, as demonstrated right here, there are some still in denial that VZW even admitted the problem. What can I say? Amazing.

For so long there have been so many in denial that when you're in a solid 4G area, ALL phones will work great. But move into a more marginal area, and that's where you separate the men from the boys. It's only those areas that truly demonstrate the quality of a well-designed radio. But I know that some will still not believe that, and still live in denial.

As I said, the Rezound was blazing fast in the same area while on 4G while the Nexus was very slow on a 3G. So even the 3G was not as fast as it could have been (or should have been).

Such is life.

[Bob61]

Ignore the "bars" as an indicator, those mean nothing really. Those can be coded to show full bars all the time. What matters more is the signal strength. What does that show? I just picked up Nexus, I show 2 bars, but signal is showing as -93dBm inside interior room in my house. That's about the same signal as I was getting on my Charge. Waiting for my wife to get home and see what her DroidX shows.

[DroidXcon]

Actually my biggest gripe are the guys (not you) on these forums that bury their head in the sand. It's the old 'mine if fine, but you must be crazy'. Hell, as demonstrated right here, there are some still in denial that VZW even admitted the problem. What can I say? Amazing.

For so long there have been so many in denial that when you're in a solid 4G area, ALL phones will work great. But move into a more marginal area, and that's where you separate the men from the boys. It's only those areas that truly demonstrate the quality of a well-designed radio. But I know that some will still not believe that, and still live in denial.

As I said, the Rezound was blazing fast in the same area while on 4G while the Nexus was very slow on a 3G. So even the 3G was not as fast as it could have been (or should have been).

Such is life.

at the end of the day the phone does what i want it to . Its hell of alot faster than all my older phones and i can watch a netflix movie when i want. I can easily practice coding on this phone without any worries of touchwiz or sense getting in the way. and i love my screen for looking at pictures and watching video.

Hopefully they will fix this 4G issue but its working fine for me and i hope they let you guys that are having problems switch to a different phone without much static

Ignore the "bars" as an indicator, those mean nothing really. Those can be coded to show full bars all the time. What matters more is the signal strength. What does that show? I just picked up Nexus, I show 2 bars, but signal is showing as -93dBm inside interior room in my house. That's about the same signal as I was getting on my Charge. Waiting for my wife to get home and see what her DroidX shows.

But if what VZW is saying is true then even that will not be a good indicator of what is true or not

[Ken7]

Ignore the "bars" as an indicator, those mean nothing really. Those can be coded to show full bars all the time. What matters more is the signal strength. What does that show? I just picked up Nexus, I show 2 bars, but signal is showing as -93dBm inside interior room in my house. That's about the same signal as I was getting on my Charge. Waiting for my wife to get home and see what her DroidX shows.

As I've said before, I could care less about the signal #s or bars. If I have two phones in my hand and one gets solid 4G with very fast speeds and the other, the Nexus, gets only 3G and its speed shows very clearly it's lagging the 4G phone by a wide margin in speed, that's all I need to know.

People can make whatever excuse they'd like, but the results are what they are. Look, this has been widely widely reported by many many many people. Many of these people have had lots of 4G experience like myself (the Nexus is my 4th 4G phone...Nexus, Bionic, Rezound & Charge). Many of us are far from newcomers to this tech and we know a good radio from a bad one. The current iteration of the Nexus radio is not a good one.

Again, if you're in a good solid 4G area, you may never see this issue...but they're there and as soon as you begin traveling to a weaker area, many here will say for the first time "Uh oh".