[dbermanmd]

I offer my apologies to those who are offended by my new post but i knew of no better place to ask the quest then this topic board.

I followed with great interest the MWC and the slew of quad core phones that were profiled there. As you may or may not know I am sitting on a Storm 1 waiting for the best droid for me - and having decided to date that none of the current devices fit especially given my propensity towards keeping a hold of them for prolonged periods of time.

I am curious as to your thoughts about quad core devices and things I should be looking for both good and bad.

Again, sorry about posting this here, but the people here in this specific forum seem most aligned to my way of thinking regarding mobile devices. And thank you in advance for your insight as always.

David

[bigcatman]

I offer my apologies to those who are offended by my new post but i knew of no better place to ask the quest then this topic board.

I followed with great interest the MWC and the slew of quad core phones that were profiled there. As you may or may not know I am sitting on a Storm 1 waiting for the best droid for me - and having decided to date that none of the current devices fit especially given my propensity towards keeping a hold of them for prolonged periods of time.

I am curious as to your thoughts about quad core devices and things I should be looking for both good and bad.

Again, sorry about posting this here, but the people here in this specific forum seem most aligned to my way of thinking regarding mobile devices. And thank you in advance for your insight as always.

David

Quad core sucks! Gimme A15!

Edit: I can read.


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[jeres88]

I offer my apologies to those who are offended by my new post but i knew of no better place to ask the quest then this topic board.

I followed with great interest the MWC and the slew of quad core phones that were profiled there. As you may or may not know I am sitting on a Storm 1 waiting for the best droid for me - and having decided to date that none of the current devices fit especially given my propensity towards keeping a hold of them for prolonged periods of time.

I am curious as to your thoughts about quad core devices and things I should be looking for both good and bad.

Again, sorry about posting this here, but the people here in this specific forum seem most aligned to my way of thinking regarding mobile devices. And thank you in advance for your insight as always.

David

Get a Galaxy Nexus!

Though really, I wasn't overly impressed with any of the phones shown at MWC. If Quadcore is a huge selling point for you, then go ahead and wait for one of them. Just keep in mind that right before the phones actually start coming out you will begin to hear about octo-core super phones. Another thing to consider is that most apps don't really utilize the cores all that well, so adding more cores will net diminishing returns.

[dbermanmd]

Get a Galaxy Nexus!

Though really, I wasn't overly impressed with any of the phones shown at MWC. If Quadcore is a huge selling point for you, then go ahead and wait for one of them. Just keep in mind that right before the phones actually start coming out you will begin to hear about octo-core super phones. Another thing to consider is that most apps don't really utilize the cores all that well, so adding more cores will net diminishing returns.

I understand your point and thank you for your response. I was thinking that given the additional time to integrate ICS into a new device would be by itself an advantage.

I was intrigued by the padphone where one device turned from a cell phone into a tablet into a laptop. Something like that would be perfect for me. Mind you, that cell phone would be more powerful than the PC i am currently using.

[yosteve]

Processing speed will not be the bottleneck on those phones. It will be ram or memory access (which phones don't seem to report)

But screens, skins, cameras, batteries and os's are what you should be looking at, not which quad out of those to get

[pool_shark]

I think quad core on a phone is overkill and overrated.

[Castor_troyy]

quad core.... I can't wait to see all the complaints of bad battery life that come out of that...

[justintiburon#ac]

I understand your point and thank you for your response. I was thinking that given the additional time to integrate ICS into a new device would be by itself an advantage.

I was intrigued by the padphone where one device turned from a cell phone into a tablet into a laptop. Something like that would be perfect for me. Mind you, that cell phone would be more powerful than the PC i am currently using.

why do you need a phone that's better than your computer. What happened to buying a phone to call people and play a few games? Storm 1? Sorry to hear that. That's the worst phone I've ever owned.

I think quad core on a phone is overkill and overrated.

i agree with this.

quad core.... I can't wait to see all the complaints of bad battery life that come out of that...

Get your popcorn ready!

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[bakerbert]

I don't think that a quadcore device will consume that much more battery, software can be made to turn off cores when not needed. The new Tegra 3 is actually a 5 core processor, the 5th core is a low volt, that is just there when the phone dose not need the horse power. (have not used it, just read articles)

This is where quads will shine http://www.androidcentral.com/ubuntu...world-congress
Normal phone use will not see much of a boost with a quad, but what you can utilize your phone for will defiantly increase. The thought of a phone being able to serve the needs of 3 devices efficiently is what i am excited about.

That being said, If you are always waiting for the next big thing......you have a very long wait in front of you. Pick the phone the serves your needs the best and jump on it.

Good luck with your decision

[ConTejas]

You're using a Storm 1...that automatically makes you not the kind of person who needs the latest and greatest. Any other smartphone on the market will be a HUGE upgrade for you..even the free ones...let along one of the LTE flagship phones. Trust me, I lived with a Storm 1 for many months after breaking my OG Droid. This was during the "waiting for the bionic days." I too, just wanted a future proof phone, or as close to it so that I could be using it when people are using something crazy in 2 years. Like said, there will always be something around the corner, but apps aren't even using dual core's capacity, so what's the point in waiting for quad. The nexus will get software updates as long as the hardware can handle...so it's about as future proof (non rooting) of a phone you can buy. Going from a Storm 1 to Gnex is like going from a bicycle to a hayabusa. No joke.

[jeres88]

I understand your point and thank you for your response. I was thinking that given the additional time to integrate ICS into a new device would be by itself an advantage.

I was intrigued by the padphone where one device turned from a cell phone into a tablet into a laptop. Something like that would be perfect for me. Mind you, that cell phone would be more powerful than the PC i am currently using.

The padphone did look interesting. It really seems like a logical next step from the webdock idea that Motorola had. As phones get more powerful, I could definitely see the advantages to having the phone power each device and just plug into the other devices. If I were to get any of the phones announced and MWC, I have to agree that this would be the phone. I also feel that since Android was made for tablets there shouldn't be as many issues of feeling that the dock is "useless".

One thing to consider though, is how often are you going to carry the tablet portion with you? Is it going to be something that for the first few months you carry around to show off, then later feel that it isn't worth it since it pretty much does what your phone does?

[reg1233]

I understand your point and thank you for your response. I was thinking that given the additional time to integrate ICS into a new device would be by itself an advantage.

I was intrigued by the padphone where one device turned from a cell phone into a tablet into a laptop. Something like that would be perfect for me. Mind you, that cell phone would be more powerful than the PC i am currently using.

The problem I see with the padphone is: What happens when it's time to upgrade your phone or you lose or break your phone? You're left with a non-functioning tablet & laptop. Everything is dependent on the phone. I change phones once or sometimes twice per year, so it wouldn't be a good option for me. I've got a the Asus transformer tablet and laptop dock.....and it's nice, but it doesn't take the place of your traditional laptop.

[imnotajedi]

There will always be a better phone on the horizon. When the GNexus was rumor it had all the best (for the most part) of all the current features out. It has been out for what two months now? I would not say this or any current phone is outdated but the announcement of all these new devices that it would appear that way. Once the models announced at MWC come out, wait a few months and there will be a whole new slew of features/upgrades out making those phones look outdated. Just because this number is higher and this has that feature doesn't mean the phone will be way better or even better at all. Phones are going to quickly evolve now to keep us wanting new phones. I am happy with my choice of the Nexus and imagine I will be happy for awhile.

[bakerbert]

The problem I see with the padphone is: What happens when it's time to upgrade your phone or you lose or break your phone? You're left with a non-functioning tablet & laptop. Everything is dependent on the phone. I change phones once or sometimes twice per year, so it wouldn't be a good option for me. (Snip)

Great point and Good Call.
Being locked in to a certan brand of phone because of your super expensive accessories....would suck.

[dbermanmd]

Processing speed will not be the bottleneck on those phones. It will be ram or memory access (which phones don't seem to report)

But screens, skins, cameras, batteries and os's are what you should be looking at, not which quad out of those to get

It appears to me that they will also offer the newest screens and reports are battery life will be better.

[dbermanmd]

why do you need a phone that's better than your computer. What happened to buying a phone to call people and play a few games? Storm 1? Sorry to hear that. That's the worst phone I've ever owned.

i agree with this.

Get your popcorn ready!

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You might not have noticed but i tend to keep my "stuff" (cars, phones, computers, TV's --- just threw out my 21 y/o RCA 36" Proscan) as long as feasible. Why spend money when you dont have to? What do you think i am, the Federal Government?

And it seems to me the current dual core phones are far from trouble free, so if i am going to have issues, might as well be with the newer stuff than the older stuff. I also wait a bunch of time before buying giving you guys with the expertise, desire and time to run interference for me and give the device a real go through.

Thank you for your input
David

[KineticMD]

And it seems to me the current dual core phones are far from trouble free, so if i am going to have issues, might as well be with the newer stuff than the older stuff.
David

I see what you're getting at, but let me offer a counterpoint. If we still haven't fully figured out dual core phones, wouldn't it stand to reason that quad cores with even more complex technology are going to cause more troubles out of the gate? You don't sound like an early adopter to me from the rest of your posts, and while dual core phones are still having a couple hiccups they've come lightyears since they were first introduced.

You also mention not spending money if you don't need to. Then you have to take into account how much these new phones are going to cost. High end phones like the Galaxy Nexus retail at $300 w/ contract when they first release, and soon we'll be seeing even more sophisticated models. I wouldn't be surprised to see quad core phones going for $350 or more when they finally arrive. Why pay even more when you can get a brand new Nexus for $250 now, and by the time quads arrive it'll cost even less.

My advice would be to upgrade now (or soon) and spare yourself more waiting for what is ultimately an uncertain product at this point. Phones like the Galaxy Nexus, RAZR, etc. have already been through their paces and the Nexus, to me at least, is as close to futureproof as you're going to find at the moment.

[dbermanmd]

You're using a Storm 1...that automatically makes you not the kind of person who needs the latest and greatest. Any other smartphone on the market will be a HUGE upgrade for you..even the free ones...let along one of the LTE flagship phones. Trust me, I lived with a Storm 1 for many months after breaking my OG Droid. This was during the "waiting for the bionic days." I too, just wanted a future proof phone, or as close to it so that I could be using it when people are using something crazy in 2 years. Like said, there will always be something around the corner, but apps aren't even using dual core's capacity, so what's the point in waiting for quad. The nexus will get software updates as long as the hardware can handle...so it's about as future proof (non rooting) of a phone you can buy. Going from a Storm 1 to Gnex is like going from a bicycle to a hayabusa. No joke.

appreciate the input, but will respectfully disagree with you. I think I can handle the transition, however rapid and significant it might be. Last i looked at my kids Bionic and my other kids Thunderbolt, and my other kids iPhone 4S, they all seem to work the same way my Storm 1 functions.

[dbermanmd]

The problem I see with the padphone is: What happens when it's time to upgrade your phone or you lose or break your phone? You're left with a non-functioning tablet & laptop. Everything is dependent on the phone. I change phones once or sometimes twice per year, so it wouldn't be a good option for me. I've got a the Asus transformer tablet and laptop dock.....and it's nice, but it doesn't take the place of your traditional laptop.

Excellent point. I would imagine that future padphones would be backwards compatible with the accessory hardware.

Love the concept, would love to see it in action.

I currently dont have a laptop. I have iPads. And the majority of my time is spent at my office or at home where i have desktops.

Thanks,
David

[dbermanmd]

I see what you're getting at, but let me offer a counterpoint. If we still haven't fully figured out dual core phones, wouldn't it stand to reason that quad cores with even more complex technology are going to cause more troubles out of the gate? You don't sound like an early adopter to me from the rest of your posts, and while dual core phones are still having a couple hiccups they've come lightyears since they were first introduced.

You also mention not spending money if you don't need to. Then you have to take into account how much these new phones are going to cost. High end phones like the Galaxy Nexus retail at $300 w/ contract when they first release, and soon we'll be seeing even more sophisticated models. I wouldn't be surprised to see quad core phones going for $350 or more when they finally arrive. Why pay even more when you can get a brand new Nexus for $250 now, and by the time quads arrive it'll cost even less.

My advice would be to upgrade now (or soon) and spare yourself more waiting for what is ultimately an uncertain product at this point. Phones like the Galaxy Nexus, RAZR, etc. have already been through their paces and the Nexus, to me at least, is as close to futureproof as you're going to find at the moment.

Excellent reply and thank you in advance.

I understand about your point re dual vs quad core. I will not get a droid without ICS and from the looks of it, the device makers will have a better shot at implementing ICS and utilizing it to its full capacity with a new device. It might be that most of the new devices over the near future will be quad core in any event. It also stand to reason that ICS will operate more efficiently given the extra cores. Dont know but currently there are no droids that are bowling me over. I peruse through this website and see problem after problem with all of the current devices and if i am going to have issues i would rather they be with the newest technology - best yet,,, will wait to see what the future holds.

Your point re cost is good too. Since i tend to buy and hold the extra $50 or $100 amortized over 3 years is not much. I also think that VerizonWireless will always try to keep the new devices affordable for all customers. Like the razor blade and handle deal,,, give away the handle so they have to buy the blades. They make their $ buy having the devices out there and operating. And the more advanced devices will drive greater revenue given their expanded capabilities.

I dont mind waiting. Age has taught me it usually works to my advantage. I think we will see a bunch of quad core phones to meet the iPhone 5 which will probably be quad core itself, head to head this summer.

Thanks again. Truly appreciate your time and thinking.

David

[jeres88]

You might not have noticed but i tend to keep my "stuff" (cars, phones, computers, TV's --- just threw out my 21 y/o RCA 36" Proscan) as long as feasible. Why spend money when you dont have to? What do you think i am, the Federal Government?

And it seems to me the current dual core phones are far from trouble free, so if i am going to have issues, might as well be with the newer stuff than the older stuff. I also wait a bunch of time before buying giving you guys with the expertise, desire and time to run interference for me and give the device a real go through.

Thank you for your input
David

Another thing to consider, is that google has proven that it will support their phones for at least two years. Other OEM's don't really have that kind of track record. Since you hold onto your devices as long as possible, this could be a pretty important point.

[rcpa]

why do you need a phone that's better than your computer.

By this time next year, I expect that my phone will be my computer. Ubuntu for Android!!!!!

[dbermanmd]

Another thing to consider, is that google has proven that it will support their phones for at least two years. Other OEM's don't really have that kind of track record. Since you hold onto your devices as long as possible, this could be a pretty important point.

Good point. I am not sure exactly,,, I thought Google bought Motorola Mobile so it can make devices under that name. Perhaps they will offer a quad core device shortly or the GN gets an update...?

My hope is that in 4- 6 months the devices Big Red offers will be more trouble free and more complete (ie, Goggle wallet, etc). It is my expectation that they will also be quad core for numerous reasons, hopefully most of them to their customers benefit.

[dbermanmd]

By this time next year, I expect that my phone will be my computer. Ubuntu for Android!!!!!

Exactly, hence my interest in the padphone....

[reg1233]

Excellent point. I would imagine that future padphones would be backwards compatible with the accessory hardware.

Love the concept, would love to see it in action.

I currently dont have a laptop. I have iPads. And the majority of my time is spent at my office or at home where i have desktops.

Thanks,
David

I wouldn't count on it. The current Transformer Prime tablet / keyboard dock isn't backwards compatible with last years Transformer keyboard dock. Motorola's phone / laptop fiasco didn't seem to last either. I would guess it would depend on sales and other things such as phones getting away from the current candybar design. New design = no compatibility.