[davey11]

All wonderful, thoughtful responses.
Bottom line though what have you accomplished?
Zilch. Well maybe you got to blow off some steam.

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[davidnc]

This is what people like yourself said when everyone was having problems with their Fascinate. Eventually Verizon said, "screw it", and gave everyone with a Fascinate a choice of 3 phones. Personally, my complaining about that piece of crap paid off. "Working with Verizon" as you say, will do absolutely nothing. Everyone's phone has the same problem, including yours before you rooted and rom'ed.


What is the point of going through phone after phone after phone that all have the same hardware/software/design problem?


You just contradicted yourself with this statement. You "understand", but you find it "illogical"? Maybe you really don't understand.


Personally, I have no problem rooting, but why is it so hard to imagine that ROOTING/ROM'ing IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!! And here are just a few reasons why:

1) Rooting is risky. It's a small to moderate risk, but it's still a risk. That's why everyone puts a DISCLAIMER in their instructions. If you aren't careful, and sometimes EVEN IF YOU ARE, you can really screw up your phone. And if that happens, help is not always readily available to correct it.

2) Rooting will void your warranty. That can make some people a little uneasy. Sure, in some cases you can go back to stock, but you gotta agree that to the novice, it can be just as difficult (if not more) to return to stock.

3) Rooting is never a sure thing. Sometimes roms can become unstable and other problems may arise with going from rom to rom. When I had my Fascinate, for some reason, a rom would work fine for a couple of weeks, and all of a sudden become unstable. Bottom line, if you root, prepare to be "all in". Some may not be prepared for all that.

4) Is it so hard to understand people get pissed when they are misled? I expect my phone to operate as advertised. How many people would've got a GNex if you told them they would have to sacrifice the most basic functionality of their device unless they ROOT their device?

I find it sad that when you pay hundreds of dollars for a device and go into a 2-year contract agreement for a device that admittedly by many doesn't work as advertised, many of you view our complaints as "whining" and "crying". When did it become wrong to want to get exactly what you paid for?

Nope my phone has never had an connection issue,squeech sound ,or data drop ,or dropped calls .While you can speak for your issues they were not mine .I root and rom every phone I had just cuz I like to.I however had to root the Dx because of lag,and phone lockups


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[luke31]

It took three phones for me to get the perfect one... but I seriously think of it as bad luck. Look at it this way, most people that purchased the Gnex aren't on these forums. Then, from the ones that actually ARE on these forums, most of the commenters and thread-starters are people having problems with their devices. Odds are that the countless people that have working Gnex's don't feel the urge to start any threads. Now, I'm not defending the phone or anything, but comments like "25% odds of getting a working phone" or "all of them have these problems" are a little too generalized. What I'm trying to say is that the population of thread-starters and complainers on the AC Galaxy Nexus forums isn't a good "population size" to extrapolate these sorts of comments from. People that have problems are the people that post. Simple as that, and you can't generalize this as being an ultra crappy phone. As a matter of fact, I have numerous friends that are NOT AC tech junkies who own the Gnex on Verizon, and each has had a flawless experience. I didn't, but persistence eventually fixed it. There are more of us out there lol.

[SOTK]

This is what people like yourself said when everyone was having problems with their Fascinate. Eventually Verizon said, "screw it", and gave everyone with a Fascinate a choice of 3 phones. Personally, my complaining about that piece of crap paid off. "Working with Verizon" as you say, will do absolutely nothing.

Um, no. Had problems with the Storm 1. Verizon let me out of it and I went to a BB Tour. My wife was let out of her BB Bold and was given a Droid 3. I was let out of a Storm 2 and went to the Fascinate. If you aren't a jerk (hint, hint), you can get a lot accomplished with a Company.

Everyone's phone has the same problem, including yours before you rooted and rom'ed.

Wrong. My GNex didn't have dropped calls, random reboots, or poor 3G/4G handoffs before unlocking/Rom'ing

What is the point of going through phone after phone after phone that all have the same hardware/software/design problem?

Um, pretty sure Storm, Bold, Tour, Fascinate, GNex, etc all have different hardware/software so not sure what you're talking about.

You just contradicted yourself with this statement. You "understand", but you find it "illogical"? Maybe you really don't understand.

Please look up contradiction in the dictionary again. I 'understand' the argument. Didn't say I agree with it or find it a logically thought out argument. I find the argument decidedly illogical.

Personally, I have no problem rooting, but why is it so hard to imagine that ROOTING/ROM'ing IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!! And here are just a few reasons why:

1) Rooting is risky. It's a small to moderate risk, but it's still a risk. That's why everyone puts a DISCLAIMER in their instructions. If you aren't careful, and sometimes EVEN IF YOU ARE, you can really screw up your phone. And if that happens, help is not always readily available to correct it.

2) Rooting will void your warranty. That can make some people a little uneasy. Sure, in some cases you can go back to stock, but you gotta agree that to the novice, it can be just as difficult (if not more) to return to stock.

3) Rooting is never a sure thing. Sometimes roms can become unstable and other problems may arise with going from rom to rom. When I had my Fascinate, for some reason, a rom would work fine for a couple of weeks, and all of a sudden become unstable. Bottom line, if you root, prepare to be "all in". Some may not be prepared for all that.

4) Is it so hard to understand people get pissed when they are misled? I expect my phone to operate as advertised. How many people would've got a GNex if you told them they would have to sacrifice the most basic functionality of their device unless they ROOT their device?

Well, you just keep using your flawed phone. I will smile and think about you every time I operate my perfectly working but unlocked/custom rom phone.

I find it sad that when you pay hundreds of dollars for a device and go into a 2-year contract agreement for a device that admittedly by many doesn't work as advertised, many of you view our complaints as "whining" and "crying". When did it become wrong to want to get exactly what you paid for?

I find it sad when people spend hundreds of dollars on tech they don't understand. I find it sad that people don't know how to research before spending hundreds of dollars on tech. I find it sad that people would rather come here and complain instead of being proactive and fixing their situation. Again, you just keep on being mad and miserable if that works for you.

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[LBTRS]

It took three phones for me to get the perfect one... but I seriously think of it as bad luck. Look at it this way, most people that purchased the Gnex aren't on these forums. Then, from the ones that actually ARE on these forums, most of the commenters and thread-starters are people having problems with their devices. Odds are that the countless people that have working Gnex's don't feel the urge to start any threads. Now, I'm not defending the phone or anything, but comments like "25% odds of getting a working phone" or "all of them have these problems" are a little too generalized. What I'm trying to say is that the population of thread-starters and complainers on the AC Galaxy Nexus forums aren't a good "population size" to extrapolate these sorts of comments from. People that have problems are the people that post. Simple as that, and you can't generalize this as being an ultra crappy phone. As a matter of fact, I have numerous friends that are NOT AC tech junkies who own the Gnex on Verizon, and each has had a flawless experience. I didn't, but persistence eventually fixed it. There are more of us out there lol.

The problem with your theory is that there are hundreds of you on this forum that don't necessarily "start" threads on this subject but chime in and say yours is the "perfect phone" or "not having any issues" yet you ALL have rooted and rom'd your phones to solve these issues. It is obvious the phone has issues and is silly when people argue in here that the phone is perfect and there are no issues and those of us with issues are "complainers" when we have no desire to jump through hoops and root/rom a phone that should work out of the box.

You can't argue that the phone is perfect if you're not stock as there would be no reason to root and rom if the phone were perfect.

[kalexan9]

Nope my phone has never had an connection issue,squeech sound ,or data drop ,or dropped calls .While you can speak for your issues they were not mine .I root and rom every phone I had just cuz I like to.I however had to root the Dx because of lag,and phone lockups


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Those like yourself who have never, ever had phone issues. Trust me, I am really really really happy for you. You are so fortunate to never have had a problem with your phone. Actually, I wish that I had your phone so that I can experience the unbridled joy that you must have to be the owner of a trouble free device. Where did you get it? Maybe if I get one from the same source, I can have one of the "good ones". I am glad to know that not every phone has problems. If you ever sell yours, can I have first dibs? Congrats to you, you lucky dog.

[kalexan9]

Um, no. Had problems with the Storm 1. Verizon let me out of it and I went to a BB Tour. My wife was let out of her BB Bold and was given a Droid 3. I was let out of a Storm 2 and went to the Fascinate. If you aren't a jerk (hint, hint), you can get a lot accomplished with a Company.



Wrong. My GNex didn't have dropped calls, random reboots, or poor 3G/4G handoffs before unlocking/Rom'ing




Um, pretty sure Storm, Bold, Tour, Fascinate, GNex, etc all have different hardware/software so not sure what you're talking about.




Please look up contradiction in the dictionary again. I 'understand' the argument. Didn't say I agree with it or find it a logically thought out argument. I find the argument decidedly illogical.




Well, you just keep using your flawed phone. I will smile and think about you every time I operate my perfectly working but unlocked/custom rom phone.



I find it sad when people spend hundreds of dollars on tech they don't understand. I find it sad that people don't know how to research before spending hundreds of dollars on tech. I find it sad that people would rather come here and complain instead of being proactive and fixing their situation. Again, you just keep on being mad and miserable if that works for you.

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Did my complaining hurt your feelings? You are happy with your phone, and I am happy that you're happy. I will continue to be miserable until I have a workable solution, which may in the short term include rooting my phone as you have. But why is my misery a concern to you? If my whining bothers you so much, why do you keep visiting and hanging around this thread? This is a misery thread. Go away and start a happy thread. Maybe I will join you once my issues are resloved.

[chubb]

It took three phones for me to get the perfect one... but I seriously think of it as bad luck. Look at it this way, most people that purchased the Gnex aren't on these forums. Then, from the ones that actually ARE on these forums, most of the commenters and thread-starters are people having problems with their devices. Odds are that the countless people that have working Gnex's don't feel the urge to start any threads. Now, I'm not defending the phone or anything, but comments like "25% odds of getting a working phone" or "all of them have these problems" are a little too generalized. What I'm trying to say is that the population of thread-starters and complainers on the AC Galaxy Nexus forums isn't a good "population size" to extrapolate these sorts of comments from. People that have problems are the people that post. Simple as that, and you can't generalize this as being an ultra crappy phone. As a matter of fact, I have numerous friends that are NOT AC tech junkies who own the Gnex on Verizon, and each has had a flawless experience. I didn't, but persistence eventually fixed it. There are more of us out there lol.

My nexus is fine for me. I get occasional reboots. Only have mic issues when im on the phone with my mom(who has a AT&T iPhone 3gs), and no one else. Don't know about data handoffs since I'm lucky enough to have LTE at home, work and everywhere else I go. There is some lag when hitting the recent apps button, as well as screen rotation. But overall the phones not the worst. My Droid 2 was the worst. I've rooted and rommed all my phones(G1,G2,D2, and TBolt.) But mostly cause I wanted to over/under clock the proc, screenshots, or get rid of carrier bloat and skins. I like vanilla so on the last two phones that's the main reason plus get rid of lag from the skins and bloat(Blockbuster damn you). But I am over the flashing days, got home repairs to focus on now. That's why I have a nexus fully stock. Vanilla android, no bloat, no skins, and hopefully more ota updates. I also bought a wifi Xoom for the same reasons. So am I not deserving of this phone because I wish not to unlock and root?

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[kalexan9]

I've rooted and rommed all my phones(G1,G2,D2, and TBolt.) But mostly cause I wanted to over/under clock the proc, screenshots, or get rid of carrier bloat and skins. I like vanilla so on the last two phones that's the main reason plus get rid of lag from the skins and bloat(Blockbuster damn you). But I am over the flashing days, got home repairs to focus on now. That's why I have a nexus fully stock. Vanilla android, no bloat, no skins, and hopefully more ota updates. I also bought a wifi Xoom for the same reasons. So am I not deserving of this phone because I wish not to unlock and root?

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I've rooted all my phones as well, and once you do, it never seems to end. I want to say that I'm done flashing as well. I have a business to run and other responsibilities and don't have time to devote to the never ending cycle of flashing roms. I just want a phone that lives up to its claims.

[davidnc]

Those like yourself who have never, ever had phone issues. Trust me, I am really really really happy for you. You are so fortunate to never have had a problem with your phone. Actually, I wish that I had your phone so that I can experience the unbridled joy that you must have to be the owner of a trouble free device. Where did you get it? Maybe if I get one from the same source, I can have one of the "good ones". I am glad to know that not every phone has problems. If you ever sell yours, can I have first dibs? Congrats to you, you lucky dog.

I got my phone in my hometown on launch day(Clt,NC).
I have no plans to sell it tho ,sorry.

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[chubb]

I got my phone in my hometown on launch day(Clt,NC).
I have no plans to sell it tho ,sorry.

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Got mine at a Verizon corp store in Harrisburg Pa on launch day. 12-15. And don't plan on getting rid of it for a long time

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[Undertoad]

But you should leave Harrisburg.

[thebourbonnflip]

my stock nexus has been awesome every since the day i purchased it on release day...no regrets..love the phone..updates in a timely matter would be nice, as long as it is all ironed out and works well with verizon and their 4g network.

[chubb]

But you should leave Harrisburg.

Why? I work there, I live in Lebanon. And haven't any problems. The phone works fine for me. I'm not gonna travel the country just to see where this phone works or doesn't work. It works where I travel daily and weekly. That's what matters to me.


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[Reno Skyy]

Sprint galaxy nexus bought it sence launch no root no lag no signal issues no random reboots no drop calls no single issue every one here is having I always said that Verizon was going to rape the nexus an totally ruin it for every one

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[Mellimel22]

That's because the sprint version is 4.0.4

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[ultravisitor]

Anyways just sucks that I paid a 1200.00 ETF fee for my family to go to Verizon and get a phone we have assumed would work and got the shaft.

Sorry, but that was just plain stupid.

[slave2theaxe]

You can't argue that the phone is perfect if you're not stock as there would be no reason to root and rom if the phone were perfect.

Bone stock and locked and working just fine thanks...as is my wife's and several other friends.

There are plenty of working GNex out there. You would like for all of them to be flawed to justify your statement, but it simply isn't so. As much as you may not want to admit it, you sir, are the minority.

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[trivor]

I admit, I see these threads all over, not just here. A ton of people are really pissed. This device failed to deliver with Verizon at the helm. I don't think there will be a pure Verizon Nexus? You have a 25% chance of getting a good device from what I read...good luck.

I am a Android freak when iOS is down. You don't even understand how much money I spent and how bad I wanted a good Nexus....that was the goal. I would way rather go with a ONE or a GS3...grab a Nexus from Google @ 399, it isn't even worth that headache unless you are willing to spend your life tweaking it. This device wont even make it to next year at this time....time is up. IMHO.

So is this Verizon's fault or Samsung? Samsung made the phone and Verizon expects their OEMs to make good hardware. If you haven't tried to get a working phone then whose fault is it? The other major point is everyone that buys a release device and expects it to be perfect out of the box. Even with extensive testing of hardware/software there are still bugs that don't come out until there are 1000's of users. You can't have it both ways - bleeding edge hardware/software and top notch reliability (look at all the sh*t Apple users put up with - you're holding it wrong and now we'll give you a free bumper to cover up a major engineering flaw - look at the Verizon iPhone to see how they fixed it). There's a pretty easy fix to this - wait at least three months after release (Thunderbolt anyone?) before buying a new phone. Patience is a virtue.

[upz3]

I love everyone complains. Outside of an Apple phone name me a well rounded perfectly working Android phone? Especially ever on Verizon. It doesn't happen. This is a great phone. 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 really.... who cares. It's not like 4.5 or 5.0 has been out. Google has closed their upgrades to lesser releases.

[Andrew Ruffolo]

This is what people like yourself said when everyone was having problems with their Fascinate. Eventually Verizon said, "screw it", and gave everyone with a Fascinate a choice of 3 phones. Personally, my complaining about that piece of crap paid off. "Working with Verizon" as you say, will do absolutely nothing. Everyone's phone has the same problem, including yours before you rooted and rom'ed.


What is the point of going through phone after phone after phone that all have the same hardware/software/design problem?


You just contradicted yourself with this statement. You "understand", but you find it "illogical"? Maybe you really don't understand.


Personally, I have no problem rooting, but why is it so hard to imagine that ROOTING/ROM'ing IS NOT FOR EVERYONE!!!! And here are just a few reasons why:

1) Rooting is risky. It's a small to moderate risk, but it's still a risk. That's why everyone puts a DISCLAIMER in their instructions. If you aren't careful, and sometimes EVEN IF YOU ARE, you can really screw up your phone. And if that happens, help is not always readily available to correct it.

2) Rooting will void your warranty. That can make some people a little uneasy. Sure, in some cases you can go back to stock, but you gotta agree that to the novice, it can be just as difficult (if not more) to return to stock.

3) Rooting is never a sure thing. Sometimes roms can become unstable and other problems may arise with going from rom to rom. When I had my Fascinate, for some reason, a rom would work fine for a couple of weeks, and all of a sudden become unstable. Bottom line, if you root, prepare to be "all in". Some may not be prepared for all that.

4) Is it so hard to understand people get pissed when they are misled? I expect my phone to operate as advertised. How many people would've got a GNex if you told them they would have to sacrifice the most basic functionality of their device unless they ROOT their device?

I find it sad that when you pay hundreds of dollars for a device and go into a 2-year contract agreement for a device that admittedly by many doesn't work as advertised, many of you view our complaints as "whining" and "crying". When did it become wrong to want to get exactly what you paid for?

My phone isn't rooted or rom'd and I have no issues with this phone... actually I've only had issues with 2 phones... the first palm pre which is just a piece of crap and my first thunderbolt (constant reboots). You know what I did? I had Verizon swap out the thunderbolt for another brand new one ( not a refurb roxors one) within my 14 day window just like everyone here could have. So no I don't have sympathy for those who don't read the return period on your receipt.

Btw, I believe this isn't a widespread issue. You don't hear people complain about a fully functional device. One the pre forums, there were literally hundreds of threads about the poor manufacturing. For a phone no one bought, that's a lot. Also you don't hear reviewers complain about it either.


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[Speedygi]

Get an IPad if you are frustrated with inconsistencies but stay with GNex for Verizon as you long as you can, cause you are going to miss out on Android sooner or later...

[luke31]

The problem with your theory is that there are hundreds of you on this forum that don't necessarily "start" threads on this subject but chime in and say yours is the "perfect phone" or "not having any issues" yet you ALL have rooted and rom'd your phones to solve these issues. It is obvious the phone has issues and is silly when people argue in here that the phone is perfect and there are no issues and those of us with issues are "complainers" when we have no desire to jump through hoops and root/rom a phone that should work out of the box.

You can't argue that the phone is perfect if you're not stock as there would be no reason to root and rom if the phone were perfect.

My replacement is still on its stock ROM, for about a week now. My signature is from my attempt to fix the first GNex I had. So yea, as of right now, I'm on 4.0.2.

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[kalexan9]

Where do all of you GNex elitists come from? You say that you never had a problem with your phone and it's not got any issues, and if that's true, again, good for you. But to use that to talk down to everyone else who does have issues I don't understand. You say that your phone has always been trouble free, but there is no way for me or anyone else to confirm that. How do we know you're not lying or exaggerating just to make a point? You make a claim, and everyone here is just supposed to believe it.You've NEVER had any problems? Right. If you say so. Anyway, why is it necessary to talk down to those who don't want to root? Some of you come across as unemployed 18-25 year olds who have nothing better to do than sit in front of your computer tweaking your phone all day and scouring the forums looking for a scuffle. If I had a phone that didn't drop data at any given moment, didn't reboot just for the hell of it, didn't drain the battery by noon, didn't lag, and didn't drop calls, I sure as hell wouldn't be on this forum looking for a scuffle with people who do have problems. It is a FACT that there are issues with the GNex that are awaiting a fix through the next update. What makes it so frustrating is that, RIGHT or WRONG, people had very high expectations from this phone. Some of those expectations were realized, some were not. And just like everything in life, people have a right to complain - or as some of you call it, "whine and cry". Just like I said before if you don't like the whining and crying, don't click on the thread, don't bring your elitism into the discussion. Go start a "I luv my GNex" thread and I promise you I won't go there to throw crap and rain on the parade. Hell, I even look forward to joining you once my issues are addressed.

[macmitten]

What's the point of a warranty if the phone is a piece of crap and they won't fix it. You take matters into your hands!!! Just like cars.

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