- 05-12-2012, 10:33 AM #51
You do understand that you just make yourself look bad and cement the fact that you come off as a winer with these types of posts, right? For example, I come to forums to be constructive, to help, and for community. You say you don't have time to waste on unlocking/rom'ing and yet you have time to come here and complain. You accuse us of being deceitful because we say we don't have problems with the phone and yet where's your proof that your phone is so defective? How do we know that you're just not hired by the competition to come here and complain about Samsung and the GNex? See where I or others could go with your type of posts?
Listen, if you spent any time in the rooting sub-forum, you'd see that most of us here are happy and spend time helping others. Were not "elitists". We just get tired of the constant negativity and the seeming inability of some people to better the situation either by selling the phone, getting a working replacement, or unlocking/rom'ing.
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Rom/Kernel: AOKP/ImoseyOn Lean Kernel, CM10 - 05-12-2012, 11:15 AM #52
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
I said this a while ago and it still holds true:
HOWEVER, I also absolutely believe that it is irresponsible for the combination of Google, Samsung, and Verizon to let a phone with the known issues of the Gnex go over 4.5 months without fixes. I don't care to point fingers, I don't care if you can fix with root, etc. The companies involved should have dedicated enough resources to solve this quickly. That would have been responsible. The delay just proves that this industry has released so many defective products that it and we no longer believe they should wait until a product is ready. - 05-12-2012, 12:00 PM #53
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
I really wanted to love this phone. I waited in line on launch day to buy a Galaxy Nexus off contract and I personally convinced two of my friends to get one also. Besides those two nexus owners. I know 3 other people with this phone. Out of the 5 Nexus owners I know every one of them hate this phone.
Everyone I know personally with this device has dealt with it becoming Increasingly laggy, ridiculously short battery life, data that simply refuses to stay connected, daily reboots for no reason, the screen becomes uncomfortably hot if you use it for longer than 30 minutes and switching screen orientation takes a comically long time. All of them act the same exact way. I personally do not believe that any stock Gnex works correctly. I would love to be proven wrong about that.
Never been more excited about a phone in my entire life and now that I have owned it since launch, I can honestly say it is the worst smartphone I have ever owned. Jesus the Storm could at least use a data connection and you could type on it without the thing rebooting mid conversation.
The stock Gnex sucks, Don't care what the apologists have to say. I need a phone not a past time and as a phone the Gnex is a horrible choice.Last edited by Saiga; 05-12-2012 at 02:22 PM.
- 05-12-2012, 12:09 PM #54
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
I do not doubt your experience, but there are those who have had no issues. I have two with no issues other than the low volume. I know others who own these with no issues. We are all in a good 4g area so maybe it has something to do with the local hardware/towers. I have also traveled and had no issues with 4G in other locations. I don't blame those who cuss these phone due to their bad experiences but make no mistake about it, many of us have have no serious issue. But if I did or could not use it as a phone I would have exchanged it long ago. Have had one since release day. I have one stock and one rooted that I experiment with. Have not seen that the roms do that much for it but then had no issues to begin with.
- 05-12-2012, 12:12 PM
Thread Author #55
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
I'm making MYSELF look bad? Why do you keep looking in this thread and responding here? I thought you started a "happy" thread? I still don't know the point you're trying to make by posting here. Did I call you out by name? Did I hurt your feelings in some way? How have you helped anyone here in this thread? You seem more childish than helpful.
- 05-12-2012, 12:37 PM #56
- 05-12-2012, 12:52 PM #57
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
It is important that these experiences are shared. It is good for the community, maybe not so much for the phone. It is Google's fault. Why they allowed a lower end device hardware wise flagship its OS is beyond me.
It is NOT the consumers fault! I am not QC for any company unless I apply to be and get paid to do so.
This argument is always made, "you can't have it all." That is right, and I am willing to tolerate OS bugs, but when a phone can't be a phone (I would never put family I love in a Nexus, they need reliability, battery life, etc.) I am fine with bugs to a degree. That is the problem, what degree are you willing to tolerate. Battery life, connectivity, and solid phone calls are always expected, and most devices can do that. That is why I would never recommend this device.
It isn't about being right, it is about when enough is enough. for me it was two devices in 14 days. I am impressed people have given it 6+ months. The only virtue in patience is when it is a good thing.
Is the iPhone flawless? Nope. It sure is close. Before I jailbroke mine, I had two bugs. One, the contacts would loose names and I would have to reboot the phone at my leisure. Two, once every few weeks a web page would crash. It would just load right back up where I left off. A huge 3 second inconvenience. Phone calls, connectivity, and battery life have NEVER been a problem.
I miss Android OS. I love it, more so that iOS. I miss the customization. I will get another android device, but I am going to drive this 4S in the dirt first because it gets the job done well. Since I jailbroke it, I have more bugs! Go figure, lol, and I do not mind them because they DO NOT affect the phone/connectivity. Both sides of the argument must be present for our community to knowledgeable.
★★★★★ - 05-12-2012, 06:03 PM #58
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
These debates always turn ugly. Fact: some of us are having issues with our phone and we're pissed. Fact: some of us aren't having issues with our phone and we love it. Nothing either side says is going to sway the other side in their favor. Nobody has any idea how prevalent these issues are. Nobody knows if 4.04 is going to fix these issues. So please, everyone, stop speaking as if your opinion is the gospel. It's not, I assure you.
- 05-12-2012, 10:10 PM #59
- 05-12-2012, 10:59 PM #60
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
Wow so much hate.
Ultimately if you are having problems with your phone and you dont get rid of it, and you dont want to root/ROM to try to fix it, or maybe you cant root/ROM to fix it, then you are in it under Verizon's mercy and that is something that you are going to just have to deal with because there is no getting by that. Google has an update, they have tested the update. Verizon has taken its sweet time with QoS. With the leaked 4.0.4 and now the small batch release of the OTA, there's absolutely no denying that.
The good thing for those of you that are holding out for the OTA is since there was a small release to a few lucky people already theres a decent chance of the OTA coming out to everyone soon (yeah i know, grain of salt blah blah blah). Could fix your issues, may not. The question is how are you going to feel if your issues dont get fixed?
And for the record: I unlocked my bootloader in Feb to install the leaked 4.0.4 update. I did this because of the keyboard lag, reboots, the "Android OS" high percentage bug, the multitouch problem, and the slow radio handoff, All of these issues were fixed.
I rooted and ROMed my phone less that a week ago, but not to fix any issues, but out of sheer curiosity and the customization ability. Then of course I work in IT, so I am more comfortable working with stuff like that than some people would be. I will tell you now that rooting and ROMing did NOT fix the screech issue while on the phone, an issue that I have only experienced while talking to someone with another verizon handset (and one that, other than being mildly annoying, hasnt bothered me). So while rooting and ROMing may be seem like the perfect fix, there are cases where it may not be either. - 05-13-2012, 12:12 PM #61
- 05-13-2012, 01:02 PM #62
- 05-13-2012, 01:31 PM #63
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
I don't have a Gnex but I have a evo design 4g by Sprint.
I really feel that as much as us consumers love technology and considering the fact then when we buy these phones with new contracts they should at least function properly as a phone. I believe all phones may have a couple bugs here and there but a drop in connectivity and losing signal when making a phone call is completely unacceptable to say the least.
However, businesses are in business to make money and as much I hate to say this once you sign that 2 year contract they can care less. 6+ months with the same issues and no fixes or even a press release or even a sign of concern from the company is just bad business.
This is my second android phone, I had the OG evo before this. The OG evo has KNOWN charging port issue, the damn charging port gets so loose that it's literally shaking around in the phone and the charge stops completely. When connected to the PC it's basically beeping (my pc) telling me it's connected and then it's not connected a second later. I went through 4 evos all with the same problem. Sprint to this day says the EVO has no issues at all and I had a pay $35 bucks a couple times whenever the port went bad.
I got tired of the lag, constant freezing up and running out of memory on my EVO and sold it to someone off craigslist and bought the EVO design 4g.
I have the same loose charging port issue and this phone has a bug that the camera opens up and runs and it kills the battery. I've come to the conclusion to just live with it.
I don't think Sprint, nor Verizon, nor HTC give a heck about your issues or concerns, you paid, you signed the contract, you live with it....
I don't sign contracts anymore, just get a cheap android off craigslist and activate it. I encourage everyone with a faulty nexus to stop looking at specs, customization and just sell it and buy something that acts like a phone.
I don't care for the Iphone but they seem to make pretty good hardware and usually they address your issues, they test the phones very good and usually it's clean of issues. I never HAD a iphone but from people I know this seems to be the case.
Android is just laggy, if not now eventually it will slow down and lag a bit, it's the OS not the specs of the phone that's the cause. I still love android but it's something I've come to realization with.
Hold off of signing new contracts and wait till the reports are in before you buy a phone. It's not a rush, at the end of the day it's communication that's the main issue and everything else is secondary. - 05-13-2012, 03:55 PM #64
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
Rooted and Rom'd (kind of the whole point of buying a Nexus device) and been running 4.0.4 for a long time now. It runs great...you should try it.
Semper Fi
I love my LG Nexus 4! - 05-13-2012, 06:11 PM #65
- 05-13-2012, 07:29 PM
Thread Author #66
- 05-13-2012, 07:36 PM #67
I'll see what the update takes care of. If it doesn't fix the issues I'll either wait for the Fighter or see what the iPhone 5 has in store. If neither fits what I want, I'll get a rezound or incredible 4g off eBay and wait until I'm due for an upgrade next winter.
- 05-13-2012, 07:48 PM #68
I got a DX in my sock drawer I will trade even up to anyone in exchange for their Nexus as long as its in good condition Lol
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Kernel : n/a - 05-13-2012, 09:41 PM
Thread Author #69
- 05-14-2012, 12:14 AM #70Device: Galaxy Nexus, Transformer Prime
Rom/Kernel: AOKP/ImoseyOn Lean Kernel, CM10 - 05-14-2012, 12:16 AM #71Device: Galaxy Nexus, Transformer Prime
Rom/Kernel: AOKP/ImoseyOn Lean Kernel, CM10 - 05-14-2012, 07:59 AM #72
- 05-14-2012, 08:01 AM #73
- 05-14-2012, 08:38 AM #74
Re: 6+ months is too, too, long.....
Im up for upgrade, and I WANTED to get this phone really bad. Then I started reading on the forums. Thanks for saving me a huge headache.
That being said, instead of getting the Gnex, I think im going to wait for SGS3. I like Samsung, I had the Fascinate. That phone had so much potential....
The Rezound is lame. Lame in the fact that the Dev community ran off Protekk. He figured out the RIL and didnt release it to the Rezound community because most of them are all childish little brats. Look at all the good Dev's the Rezound lost due to the community attitude running them all off.
The Motorola Droids suck, because its Motorola and we all know why. The Incredible 4G isnt that outstanding, although I like that it has Sense 4 and ICS along with the S4. Everything else about it is tame.
That doesnt leave much else on Verizon, which sucks. Where I live AT&T (POS) and T-Mobile do not get good service and Sprint is hit or mis.
So in short, I wanted to have this phone so bad, then I read the forums. SO im stuck waiting for something to come to Big Red worth getting
Ever time I talk to VZW rep they say, "Yeah, I would not get that phone...get a RAZR!!!!!"
Look at your comment. Back to mine. Back to yours NOW BACK TO MINE. Sadly, it isn't mine. But if you stopped trolling and started posting useful replies it could LOOK like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through comments, finding the ones that your comment could look like. Back at mine, what is it? It's a highly effective counter-troll. Look again, MY COMMENT IS NOW DIAMONDS.Anything is possible when you think before you comment or post. Im on a computer. - 05-14-2012, 08:43 AM #75




Anyway, why is it necessary to talk down to those who don't want to root? Some of you come across as unemployed 18-25 year olds who have nothing better to do than sit in front of your computer tweaking your phone all day and scouring the forums looking for a scuffle. If I had a phone that didn't drop data at any given moment, didn't reboot just for the hell of it, didn't drain the battery by noon, didn't lag, and didn't drop calls, I sure as hell wouldn't be on this forum looking for a scuffle with people who do have problems. It is a FACT that there are issues with the GNex that are awaiting a fix through the next update. What makes it so frustrating is that, RIGHT or WRONG, people had very high expectations from this phone. Some of those expectations were realized, some were not. And just like everything in life, people have a right to complain - or as some of you call it, "whine and cry". Just like I said before if you don't like the whining and crying, don't click on the thread, don't bring your elitism into the discussion. Go start a "I luv my GNex" thread and I promise you I won't go there to throw crap and rain on the parade. Hell, I even look forward to joining you once my issues are addressed.
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