I'm calling it

**Monkey Pi** · 05-24-2012, 03:22 PM

Time of death 3:14 pm CST, 5/24/12. Despite some valiant efforts by a small group to defend the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, owners have finally joined Verizon, Google, and Samsung and quietly moved on from this phone. The news was anticipated after a front page article on AndroidCentral.com about a rumored rollout of the long anticipated 4.0.4 update fell off the front page with a paltry 26 comments, nearly none of which indicated a pressing interest or belief that the update would happen. The rumored rollout did not even merit it's own thread in the Verizon Galaxy Nexus forum.

In other news, I've got $50 that says this thing never sees OTA Jellybean.

**Mordecaidrake** · 05-24-2012, 03:26 PM

In other news, it's a nexus and 99% of the users have rooted it and have had 4.04 for months. Hence no one caring about Verizons roll out.

**asmallchild** · 05-24-2012, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mordecaidrake

In other news, it's a nexus and 99% of the users have rooted it and have had 4.04 for months. Hence no one caring about Verizons roll out.

bingo that's the whole point of owning a nexus

**jerrod6** · 05-24-2012, 03:31 PM

Sorry, but I have a Verizon, Galaxy Nexus and I expect an update without me having to mess with the phone in any way
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**DriveEuro** · 05-24-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mordecaidrake

In other news, it's a nexus and 99% of the users have rooted it and have had 4.04 for months. Hence no one caring about Verizons roll out.

Couldn't be anymore true. Been rocking 4.0.4 for months here.

**Vance14** · 05-24-2012, 03:43 PM

Sorry, I would put the percentage of Nexus owners who have rooted down at around 5%.

In fact, I would say only about 10% have ever even heard of rooting. This is not the "developer phone" customer base anymore, this was the top Android phone on Verizon, so they sold a ton to regular, non-Android-Central-visiting, customers.

Many of us got a Nexus so that it would have most of the benefits of being rooted without needing to root or ROM. Been there, done that, just don't have the energy or time to mess with that anymore. I may end up doing it out of necessity if my radios get worse, but that would be only if I got too frustrated.

**Mordecaidrake** · 05-24-2012, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Vance

Sorry, I would put the percentage of Nexus owners who have rooted down at around 5%.

In fact, I would say only about 10% have ever even heard of rooting. This is not the "developer phone" customer base anymore, this was the top Android phone on Verizon, so they sold a ton to regular, non-Android-Central-visiting, customers.

Many of us got a Nexus so that it would have most of the benefits of being rooted without needing to root or ROM. Been there, done that, just don't have the energy or time to mess with that anymore. I may end up doing it out of necessity if my radios get worse, but that would be only if I got too frustrated.

It is a developer phone, that's the point of a Nexus. And every single one of them was the top of the line Android phone when released.

**2defmouze** · 05-24-2012, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Monkey Pi

Time of death 3:14 pm CST, 5/24/12. Despite some valiant efforts by a small group to defend the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, owners have finally joined Verizon, Google, and Samsung and quietly moved on from this phone. The news was anticipated after a front page article on AndroidCentral.com about a rumored rollout of the long anticipated 4.0.4 update fell off the front page with a paltry 26 comments, nearly none of which indicated a pressing interest or belief that the update would happen. The rumored rollout did not even merit it's own thread in the Verizon Galaxy Nexus forum.

In other news, I've got $50 that says this thing never sees OTA Jellybean.

If I thought you'd actually pay I'd take you on that bet in a heartbeat.

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**2defmouze** · 05-24-2012, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by jerrod6

Sorry, but I have a Verizon, Galaxy Nexus and I expect an update without me having to mess with the phone in any way
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And you will get it. Sorry it's not at as fast as you'd like. Thems the breaks, kid.

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**davey11** · 05-24-2012, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vance

Sorry, I would put the percentage of Nexus owners who have rooted down at around 5%.

In fact, I would say only about 10% have ever even heard of rooting. This is not the "developer phone" customer base anymore, this was the top Android phone on Verizon, so they sold a ton to regular, non-Android-Central-visiting, customers.

Many of us got a Nexus so that it would have most of the benefits of being rooted without needing to root or ROM. Been there, done that, just don't have the energy or time to mess with that anymore. I may end up doing it out of necessity if my radios get worse, but that would be only if I got too frustrated.

So you don't have the time or energy to take an hour or 2 (mostly spent on reading instructions) to experience awesomeness? OK

**Mordecaidrake** · 05-24-2012, 04:03 PM

What blows my mind is all these people complaining about the phone not working right but they won't spend literally 30 minutes run the utility that does all the work for them that unlocks and roots the phone. Then read a quick tutorial on this site flash AOKP or whatever and done. Leave the ROM completely stock and you're pretty much where Verizon would put you when they released the update.

**2defmouze** · 05-24-2012, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by davey11

So you don't have the time or energy to take an hour or 2 (mostly spent on reading instructions) to experience awesomeness? OK

Not they don't have an hour. They do however have 5 months to whine about it in tech forums. Weird huh?

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**2defmouze** · 05-24-2012, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Monkey Pi

I'll pay. When do I get paid, though? What's your cutoff point on never?

What's yours? You would be the one making unfounded, dubious guesses that most of us know are not true.. So you tell me how this plays out in your fantasy

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**Cigar-Junkie** · 05-24-2012, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by 2defmouze

What's yours? You would be the one making unfounded, dubious guesses that most of us know are not true.. So you tell me how this plays out in your fantasy

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OKAY, the only fair way to get this done is for both of you to send me fifty bucks.....

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**Cigar-Junkie** · 05-24-2012, 05:42 PM

I would hate to see a pie chart (no pun Monkey) that shows % of all android phone sales including Nexus. We are but a small piece of the pi

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**jerrod6** · 05-24-2012, 05:46 PM

For the record, there is nothing wrong with my phone or it's radio so I am not whining. I still expect to receive updates without having to mess with the phone especially while under warranty.

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**2defmouze** · 05-24-2012, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Monkey Pi

And would your unfounded, dubious guesses have pegged that 6 months in the Verizon Galaxy Nexus would be the only phone on the lowest version out of any officially supported ICS device? Read again that my bet is OTA Jellybean and let me know if you're still interested.

No, I am honestly somewhat surprised its taken this long for verizon to approve the OTA (which, let's clarify, they haven't been testing for 6 months.. More like 2ish).. But again it has no effect on me because I got this phone never intending to have to wait for OTA's.

Having said that.. Re-reading your words, Yes I will accept your bet, which is that this phone never receives a Jellybean OTA. I will in fact guarantee that it will, and I'm sure it will be the last Galaxy Nexus to have it pushed, lol.

On the flip side, you can take any other phone available right now that isn't a nexus and I will also guarantee that they will NEVER get Jellybean officially.

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**spacecasespiff** · 05-24-2012, 06:46 PM

What about the people that don't want or care about rooting there phone don't they have a right to have a phone that works or at least gets updates quickly. I mean you shouldn't have to root your phone to make it work the way it should out of the box.

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**2defmouze** · 05-24-2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by spacecasespiff

What about the people that don't want or care about rooting there phone don't they have a right to have a phone that works or at least gets updates quickly. I mean you shouldn't have to root your phone to make it work the way it should out of the box.

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Said people probably should have exchanged their defective phones ages ago rather than sit idly by and hope everything gets fixed with an update. They could have exchanged them for another Nexus to see if the first one was defective, or for another phone altogether. If they did not do that.. then they decided to sit and wait for an update, and decided they were not going to unlock and do things on their own... 2 decisions. Nobody in the forums should feel bad for anyone who had options and made poor decisions. You have only yourself to blame if you're sitting on your hands with a phone that doesn't work the way you want it to. That's life. Don't sit by and think the world will take care of you, most of the time you'll end up SOL and very disappointed.

**dmmarck** · 05-24-2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Monkey Pi

Time of death 3:14 pm CST, 5/24/12. Despite some valiant efforts by a small group to defend the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, owners have finally joined Verizon, Google, and Samsung and quietly moved on from this phone. The news was anticipated after a front page article on AndroidCentral.com about a rumored rollout of the long anticipated 4.0.4 update fell off the front page with a paltry 26 comments, nearly none of which indicated a pressing interest or belief that the update would happen. The rumored rollout did not even merit it's own thread in the Verizon Galaxy Nexus forum.

In other news, I've got $50 that says this thing never sees OTA Jellybean.

Why would it have its own thread when it's the same update that was leaked weeks ago?

And re: your Rezound analogy ==> the difference is devs support this greater than any other device out there atm. So if your point is that the forum, and viz a viz that, the community dies, that's an odd thing considering how massive the GN community is. I don't buy that claim for a second.

**Vance14** · 05-24-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by davey11

So you don't have the time or energy to take an hour or 2 (mostly spent on reading instructions) to experience awesomeness? OK

No, it is the many more hours than that getting all my apps back in place, all my customizations within each app, all my music downloaded or pinned, etc. I would gladly spend that time if my phone was in dire need of it, or if there was any real "awesomeness" to be had.

I have considered rooting, since I rooted and ROM'ed my Droid. But, I have no desire to run a different ROM. There is no bloatware to get rid of. I don't need to overclock. I already have an app that allows me free wifi hotspot. I have not yet seen an app that I want that is root only. Titanium is nice, but even that I don't see any real need for. My phone is running smooth, only an occasional redraw after using a heavy app.

What would be the major benefit to me of going through even a few hours of messing with it this time? As I have discussed before, I am willing to be convinced, but I just don't see any significant benefit.

**dmmarck** · 05-24-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vance

No, it is the many more hours than that getting all my apps back in place, all my customizations within each app, etc. I would gladly spend that time if my phone was in dire need of it, or if there was any real "awesomeness" to be had.

I have considered rooting, since I rooted and ROM'ed my Droid. But, I have no desire to run a different ROM. There is no bloatware to get rid of. I don't need to overclock. I already have an app that allows me free wifi hotspot. I have not yet seen an app that I want that is root only. Titanium is nice, but even that I don't see any real need for. My phone is running smooth, only an occasional redraw after using a heavy app.

What would be the major benefit to me of going through even a few hours of messing with it this time? As I have discussed before, I am willing to be convinced, but I just don't see any significant benefit.

That takes about 5 minutes with Titanium Backup and maybe 5 minutes to set up your home screen. If you use something like Nova launcher that saves your settings (and thus, your home screens), it literally takes a second to restore.

I lay out plenty of benefits in my Don't Panic guide, I suggest you take it for a spin

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**Vance14** · 05-24-2012, 07:01 PM

I will say that if I was hearing that the 4.0.4 radios were any better than my 4.0.2 radios, I would go ahead and root and flash it. But, from what I am reading here, they are no better, and sometimes worse.

**dmmarck** · 05-24-2012, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Vance

I will say that if I was hearing that the 4.0.4 radios were any better than my 4.0.2 radios, I would go ahead and root and flash it. But, from what I am reading here, they are no better, and sometimes worse.

Mine are better, and I've been using all sorts of radio leaks for...3 months now? Those who say they are worse, well, I don't understand how they could be. That's more device specific. But I've had real and tangible results, and I know plenty of people--here--who have had the same.

**moosc** · 05-24-2012, 07:05 PM

Fyi this was never a number one phone on vzw. As with any android sold on vzw network if it doesn't have the Droid branding behind it its only a second class device. And vzw treats it like so. Also when folks walked into vzw and want a Android phone they look for eye candy not OS not specs. If its flashy it will sell.

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