How will you feel if VZW Galaxy S3 & HTC get Jelly Bean first?

**yosteve** · 08-13-2012, 08:42 AM

At least it'll end their ability to advertise nexus on Verizon as such

**evperry** · 08-13-2012, 09:50 PM

Whats the name of the toolkit?

Originally Posted by creccaj1

Pretty sure I have bricked my Nexus 3-4 times since I have had it lol. Easy enough to fix and it try all over again.

This phone literally is the EASIEST to root and rom. They even make a toolkit that will do it in a few clicks for you. If you want JellyBean go to the root section and do some reading. If you need help, any of us there will be glad to help but I am willing to bet that you will find it to be a lot easier than you think.

**dmmarck** · 08-13-2012, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by evperry

Whats the name of the toolkit?

Wug's Toolkit.

**evperry** · 08-13-2012, 10:05 PM

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. If I wanted to root and unlock and mess with my phone I would not have purchased the Galaxy Nexus. I have absolutely NO desire to do that. I run a business and my phone is integral to it. If I had a job or my phone was jsut to check twitter then maybe. I dont have time for any issues and Im 38 years old and I just don't care to tinker with things anymore. I just want it to work out the box.

Im bailing too if other phones get it. Maybe I will just bail from Verizon. I read somewhere where some guy as a nexus GSM and his phone is updated perfectly and he doesn't have to deal with the Verizon non-sense.

The mere idea of rooting is annoying to me.

Originally Posted by firebirdfrank

Because the WHOLE point of having a Nexus is that you shouldn't HAVE to root/flash to get the latest updates (IMHO). I have nothing against doing it, it just defeats the purpose if you ask me. You get a Nexus precisely so you don't have to jump through any hoops to stay current, I think.

As for the original question posed by this thread, if ANY non-Nexus phone gets it before the VZW GNex, I'm bailing and getting the next iPhone. This whole Verizon-branded Gaxy Nexus

**chubb** · 08-14-2012, 10:28 PM

This is Verizon we are talking about. But the Nexus will get the update before any other phone. Why? Because no Verizon Bloatware or Manufacture Bloatware to get working. It will still take many months for it to push, but the Nexus will get it first. I still remember the threads on weather the Razr would get an update(To ICS) before the Nexus(To 4.0.4). We all know what happened there.

**philly** · 08-15-2012, 09:23 PM

Same people who debated on this forum that the nexus was the must have phone on Verizon because it would be updated first.. are now saying it doesn't matter. The same exact users. Also kinda funny how **** hurt some of the responses are to the OP's question. Frankly most of you are angry liars/ blind fanboys

**philly** · 08-15-2012, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by chubb

This is Verizon we are talking about. But the Nexus will get the update before any other phone. Why? Because no Verizon Bloatware or Manufacture Bloatware to get working. It will still take many months for it to push, but the Nexus will get it first. I still remember the threads on weather the Razr would get an update(To ICS) before the Nexus(To 4.0.4). We all know what happened there.

uh no the debate was ice before jb. 4.04 is nothing.. this phone was suppose to get that in late dec it came like five months later.

**philly** · 08-15-2012, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by evperry

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. If I wanted to root and unlock and mess with my phone I would not have purchased the Galaxy Nexus. I have absolutely NO desire to do that. I run a business and my phone is integral to it. If I had a job or my phone was jsut to check twitter then maybe. I dont have time for any issues and Im 38 years old and I just don't care to tinker with things anymore. I just want it to work out the box.

Im bailing too if other phones get it. Maybe I will just bail from Verizon. I read somewhere where some guy as a nexus GSM and his phone is updated perfectly and he doesn't have to deal with the Verizon non-sense.

The mere idea of rooting is annoying to me.

Sorry for the triple post but this is pure gold. Anyone disagreeing with this has issues. Also for most people a working out of the box phone with reliable signal
etc is #1... if you wanna tinker why not just do it on a tablet?

**JHBThree** · 08-15-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by philly

uh no the debate was ice before jb. 4.04 is nothing.. this phone was suppose to get that in late dec it came like five months later.

4.0.4 didn't EXIST in late December.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

**slik6996** · 08-15-2012, 10:37 PM

Well even if the international galaxy s3 gets jelly bean before the Verizon gnex it would still be bull crap.

**jjt981** · 08-16-2012, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Monkey Pi

There's a ton of reasons, most of which I've put out at length in many threads here, but I think I can say it more simply. For me, the major appeal in the Nexus is that it is vanilla Android. Pure Google. While none of these roms have the bloat some of you seem to dread so much, and I would not really call most of them skin-like, there's one simple fact you ignore. They are not pure Google.

I find rooting/romming neither annoying nor appealing. I'm enjoying my phone, so I wouldn't really call what I'm doing waiting.

I agree, i think a lot of people like the stock look but don't want to root. My brother prefers the look of stock to a skin but i know he'd never be interested in rooting. I personally am not the biggest fan of rooting but i root to get jelly bean because i like the latest version of android on my device. but as soon as the ota comes out id switch back to stock.

**ultravisitor** · 08-16-2012, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by philly

Sorry for the triple post but this is pure gold. Anyone disagreeing with this has issues. Also for most people a working out of the box phone with reliable signal
etc is #1... if you wanna tinker why not just do it on a tablet?

Anyone disagreeing with the idea of rooting "has issues"? Good grief. Just because YOU don't like the idea of rooting doesn't mean that those who do have issues. Maybe you're the one who has issues if you need to label people that way because they disagree with you.

I don't see what tinkering on a tablet has to do with rooting a phone. I don't even have a tablet right now and I don't really want or need one.

**JHBThree** · 08-16-2012, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by slik6996

Well even if the international galaxy s3 gets jelly bean before the Verizon gnex it would still be bull crap.

Not really. Carriers overseas tend to not meddle in updates due to the way the market is set up. Mobility between carriers is FAR easier, so they try not to anger their customers.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

**rufflez** · 08-16-2012, 04:32 AM

Personally, I'd rather them get it right. Jelly bean features are nice, but I have yet to find a ROM that functions on the VZW model like they do on the GSM models. Battery life isn't as good as the stock ICS for me either. I'm indifferent as I can run it now, but I am waiting for the official release as I will probably flash back to stock for it.

**cbbartley** · 08-16-2012, 10:07 AM

Been a while since I posted...but it's honestly still on the table that the Verizon GS3 might receive the update first especially with a leak out in the wild right now, and it's Verizon's top selling "current" phone.

I'm still surprised that anyone is cool with an Android update hitting a non-Nexus device before even just one on the list of Nexus devices whether it be GSM or CDMA especially by those who were gungho behind that being the number one reason for going Nexus. We're not talking about the Nexus S, but a Nexus that was released less 9 months ago.

You all can scream the ability to Root and Boot all you want, but the number one reason suggested to those who weren't geeking out on the phone was the future proof and fast updating coming from Google directly. Now all of these people who were insured by their tech friend that this would be the case are running for the hills because it's not happening that way. And a lot of these tech savvy friends aren't upset that they were led astray by the promise of an experience that drastically changed and then fed others that information.

This phone was under marketed. So how did the word truly get out about this phone? Through you and me, the tech savvy guys who were up to date on what's new. And what's the general answer from tech savvy guys now. Root & Boot, it's simple. You void your warranty, but there's little chance of anyone finding that out. But these people didn't want that hassle in the first place. If they were the kind of people to do that kind of stuff, they wouldn't have been asking the tech guys. Then when some of these people mess up their phones Rooting and Booting there you are again with "You must of done it wrong. Read the countless instructions online." What a lack of pride in the info put out there. Then you guys won't even stand beside these people when they take a stand.

And I know there will be those who say that, "Well I didn't force anyone to buy a phone." But what a weak copout! Do you really want to be associated with a phrase plenty of Con artists have used as their defense in court?

Then there's the "What will being upset do about it? We can't do anything." They have a word for that...complacency. There are ways for consumers to fight this type of thing, but it's not about whether you can do something about it or not is it? These days people just don't feel like it and hate to see others that do. "Why rock the boat? There's no point. Don't make insurance companies pay for damages fix it yourself, just buy a new one." Wow everytime I read the posts!

Just read this and pretend that you don't know about Rooting and Booting ROMS to your phone:

Just Root your phone and Boot up a custom ROM on it. Yeah it voids your warranty, but it's amazing to have on your phone. You can manually update it to the new OS anytime you want, but you won't get OTAs like you originally wanted to do. Make a backup because you could possibly brick or render your phone useless with a bad ROM, and if you're one of the rare few that Verizon does catch you'll need to buy a new phone.

So yeah, I'm kind of irked that I convinced people to buy this phone, though I truly love the phone myself. And this isn't a post starting an argument. I just don't understand the views and stances some of you take on a matter like this. It's a discouraging reflection of a our country's mentality.

**dmmarck** · 08-16-2012, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by cbbartley

Been a while since I posted...but it's honestly still on the table that the Verizon GS3 might receive the update first especially with a leak out in the wild right now, and it's Verizon's top selling "current" phone.

I'm still surprised that anyone is cool with an Android update hitting a non-Nexus device before even just one on the list of Nexus devices whether it be GSM or CDMA especially by those who were gungho behind that being the number one reason for going Nexus. We're not talking about the Nexus S, but a Nexus that was released less 9 months ago.

You all can scream the ability to Root and Boot all you want, but the number one reason suggested to those who weren't geeking out on the phone was the future proof and fast updating coming from Google directly. Now all of these people who were insured by their tech friend that this would be the case are running for the hills because it's not happening that way. And a lot of these tech savvy friends aren't upset that they were led astray by the promise of an experience that drastically changed and then fed others that information.

This phone was under marketed. So how did the word truly get out about this phone? Through you and me, the tech savvy guys who were up to date on what's new. And what's the general answer from tech savvy guys now. Root & Boot, it's simple. You void your warranty, but there's little chance of anyone finding that out. But these people didn't want that hassle in the first place. If they were the kind of people to do that kind of stuff, they wouldn't have been asking the tech guys. Then when some of these people mess up their phones Rooting and Booting there you are again with "You must of done it wrong. Read the countless instructions online." What a lack of pride in the info put out there. Then you guys won't even stand beside these people when they take a stand.

And I know there will be those who say that, "Well I didn't force anyone to buy a phone." But what a weak copout! Do you really want to be associated with a phrase plenty of Con artists have used as their defense in court?

Then there's the "What will being upset do about it? We can't do anything." They have a word for that...complacency. There are ways for consumers to fight this type of thing, but it's not about whether you can do something about it or not is it? These days people just don't feel like it and hate to see others that do. "Why rock the boat? There's no point. Don't make insurance companies pay for damages fix it yourself, just buy a new one." Wow everytime I read the posts!

Just read this and pretend that you don't know about Rooting and Booting ROMS to your phone:

Just Root your phone and Boot up a custom ROM on it. Yeah it voids your warranty, but it's amazing to have on your phone. You can manually update it to the new OS anytime you want, but you won't get OTAs like you originally wanted to do. Make a backup because you could possibly brick or render your phone useless with a bad ROM, and if you're one of the rare few that Verizon does catch you'll need to buy a new phone.

So yeah, I'm kind of irked that I convinced people to buy this phone, though I truly love the phone myself. And this isn't a post starting an argument. I just don't understand the views and stances some of you take on a matter like this. It's a discouraging reflection of a our country's mentality.

As someone who puts an immense amount of pride in my work, my guides, and who has singlehandedly helped out new rooters and flashers on the phone, through chats, pms, via remote access, and through countless "live" threads here, I can tell you without a doubt that the support you receive here in this space of the Internet would never leave one helpless or hanging. We have the best support of any major place out there, bar none.

Secondly, it renders your warranty voidable, not immediately void.

Third, good post in part.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2

**2defmouze** · 08-16-2012, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by dmmarck

As someone who puts an immense amount of pride in my work, my guides, and who has singlehandedly helped out new rooters and flashers on the phone, through chats, pms, via remote access, and through countless "live" threads here, I can tell you without a doubt that the support you receive here in this space of the Internet would never leave one helpless or hanging. We have the best support of any major place out there, bar none.

Secondly, it renders your warranty voidable, not immediately void.

Third, good post in part.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2

Slow clap

Quick thoughts:
1. Until some other phone gets the JB update before yours, why all the fuss and stress over RUMORS?

2. Must every one of these threads turn into a "just root it" vs "I don't wanna" people arguing for no reason? Everyone knows the points, I wish everyone would just unlock, root, and do it too, but I'm as sick of these back and forth debates as anyone else.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

**STC09** · 08-16-2012, 02:02 PM

I might care if I didn't already have JB on the N7 to satisfy my curiosity. Considering the potential trouble I'll have to reinstall some useful things JB takes away, I could wait indefinitely.

**jjt981** · 08-16-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by 2defmouze

Slow clap

Quick thoughts:
1. Until some other phone gets the JB update before yours, why all the fuss and stress over RUMORS?

2. Must every one of these threads turn into a "just root it" vs "I don't wanna" people arguing for no reason? Everyone knows the points, I wish everyone would just unlock, root, and do it too, but I'm as sick of these back and forth debates as anyone else.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Exactly. Root if you please, if not then just sit back and enjoy what is still one of the best android phones there is. We have heard that its testing for Verizon and so it could come out tomorrow for all we know

**Downtown Taco** · 08-16-2012, 04:29 PM

Meanwhile, Sprint keeps silent...
I hope an OTA hits sometime soon. Nexus owners deserve it, if not rooted.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

**slave2theaxe** · 08-22-2012, 12:31 PM

So sick of hearing the "rooting voids your warranty" argument.

It is damn near impossible to brick this phone by tinkering with it, so unless your phone is just COMPLETELY dead, you can always return to stock, unroot, and relock your phone, so how would VZW or anyone else ever know you rooted?

And if it is completely dead...Again, how would they find out its rooted?

If you don't want to root, that's fine, but please stop using this as one of the reasons...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

**dmmarck** · 08-22-2012, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by slave2theaxe

So sick of hearing the "rooting voids your warranty" argument.

It is damn near impossible to brick this phone by tinkering with it, so unless your phone is just COMPLETELY dead, you can always return to stock, unroot, and relock your phone, so how would VZW or anyone else ever know you rooted?

And if it is completely dead...Again, how would they find out its rooted?

If you don't want to root, that's fine, but please stop using this as one of the reasons...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

It does void it, it makes it voidable, at least from how it's worded and how I believe it could be reasonably (and properly) construed.

**dcastillo** · 08-22-2012, 07:33 PM

Haha... awesome post

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Android Central Forums

**trigun123478** · 08-22-2012, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Monkey Pi

In tribute to you, I am now making this my only reason why I won't root. Typically, I love it when anonymous people on the Internet tell me what to think based on what they are sick of reading, but sometimes the rebel in me wins out. I was gonna root tonight too!

God, I love my warranty. I'm glad I still have it, unlike you rooters.

Not sure if your being funny or what. Rooting does not void your warranty, you can always return to stock. Don't let Verizon do this to you take control of your device and put jelly bean on it.

As far as if this were to really happen I would be super pissed. The reason I bought this phone was I thought Verizon couldn't touch this phone. Boy was I wrong, what they did to the s3 And the nexus I'm really thinking about leaving Verizon even though I have unlimited data. That way I could get a gsm nexus the only true nexus anyway. Screw Verizon.

**JHBThree** · 08-22-2012, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by trigun123478

Not sure if your being funny or what. Rooting does not void your warranty, you can always return to stock. Don't let Verizon do this to you take control of your device and put jelly bean on it.

As far as if this were to really happen I would be super pissed. The reason I bought this phone was I thought Verizon couldn't touch this phone. Boy was I wrong, what they did to the s3 And the nexus I'm really thinking about leaving Verizon even though I have unlimited data. That way I could get a gsm nexus the only true nexus anyway. Screw Verizon.

Go to T-Mobile with their new plans. Heck, I'm thinking of doing it.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2