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  1. jova33's Avatar
    I'd be willing to dump Verizon if Google put out a 32 GB Nexus 4...

    Sent from my wireless telephonic device.
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    12-11-2012 12:14 PM
  2. nemov's Avatar
    This Samsung/Verizon/Google phone was plagued by delays and drama for months before release. We were lucky this phone ever came to Verizon. Slow updates thy name is Verizon. Most Android phones still don't have Jelly Bean. I've had the phone a year now. I'm happy with it. Not sure what I'll do in the Summer.
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    12-11-2012 03:37 PM
  3. vivek615's Avatar
    Dude, I'm quick draw with my wallet, out the pocket, card in hand halfway through leaving the pocket, and bam!, already swiped. I'll race you with Google wallet...

    Sent from my wireless telephonic device.
    but you would already have unlocked wallet a few minutes before paying right? So then you just tap the phone and it's all done... lock and go no wallet needed...

    It's not the most wonderful thing ever but it certainly is quicker than pulling out a card

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    12-16-2012 04:40 AM
  4. vivek615's Avatar
    1 this phone is obviously a "true" nexus to Google Think of all the bajillion Android devices out there... how many get their own binaries and images on AOSP?

    2. This thread may be redundant but we all have to accept that if you were a prospective buyer in 2011 who researched this phone then you would've been almost universally informed that quick updates a la nexus one were in the pipes... (though there were some scattered anxieties due to wallet etc.) it's unfortunate that there was a discrepancy between this and the reality

    It's no big deal and some minor hacking deals with it... but I wouldn't say that it's okay for Verizon to have sold contracts to people based on false beliefs.

    In addition Verizon's own PR people , do not often acknowledge that their testing cycle is the cause of the delays (their own nexus forum's regulars adamantly maintained that it was Google and Samsung who had issues to iron out last I saw)


    Then aain...I should also speculate that it's quite possible that the testing cycle is so long because of the significant number of people complaining of issues (plus the huge signal misconceptions)... Verizon may not have foreseen this issue

    The way I see it we still have a great device... and I'm more than satisfied

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2!
    12-16-2012 05:18 AM
  5. pauldroidr2d2's Avatar
    1 this phone is obviously a "true" nexus to Google Think of all the bajillion Android devices out there... how many get their own binaries and images on AOSP?

    2. This thread may be redundant but we all have to accept that if you were a prospective buyer in 2011 who researched this phone then you would've been almost universally informed that quick updates a la nexus one were in the pipes... (though there were some scattered anxieties due to wallet etc.) it's unfortunate that there was a discrepancy between this and the reality

    It's no big deal and some minor hacking deals with it... but I wouldn't say that it's okay for Verizon to have sold contracts to people based on false beliefs.

    In addition Verizon's own PR people , do not often acknowledge that their testing cycle is the cause of the delays (their own nexus forum's regulars adamantly maintained that it was Google and Samsung who had issues to iron out last I saw)


    Then aain...I should also speculate that it's quite possible that the testing cycle is so long because of the significant number of people complaining of issues (plus the huge signal misconceptions)... Verizon may not have foreseen this issue

    The way I see it we still have a great device... and I'm more than satisfied

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2!
    I don't give VZW a break on this. They can point fingers all they want at Google, or Samsung. But, the simple fact of the matter is, if that were the case, than nobody would have had the update pushed already.
    12-16-2012 12:11 PM
  6. booboolala2000's Avatar
    Also, it doesn't matter who's fault the delays are. There are delays plain and simple. If you were sold a device that was "promised" updates then Verizon as the retailer is responsible for the faulty product. If I sold you a bottle of wine that I told you was fabulous and exactly what you were looking for and it turned out to not be the case then I am responsible for replacement with something that fits your needs. Misrepresentation is a problem.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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    12-16-2012 11:36 PM
  7. 2defmouze's Avatar
    A Nexus device promises you AOSP based updates straight from Google.. Nothing about speed of the updates.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    12-17-2012 07:18 AM
  8. TabGuy's Avatar
    There are two conflicting philosophies at work here. Google's philosophy is "Deploy early and deploy often." The "deploy often" is a requirement when deploying early so as to fix the bugs caused by deploying early. The phone company doesn't have that luxury. They have to make sure it works. They can't afford to have FCs on the phone app when someone is calling 911 while their child is dying in a car accident.

    I don't mind waiting as long as Verizon gets it right.
    12-17-2012 10:08 AM
  9. ConTejas's Avatar
    There are two conflicting philosophies at work here. Google's philosophy is "Deploy early and deploy often." The "deploy often" is a requirement when deploying early so as to fix the bugs caused by deploying early. The phone company doesn't have that luxury. They have to make sure it works. They can't afford to have FCs on the phone app when someone is calling 911 while their child is dying in a car accident.

    I don't mind waiting as long as Verizon gets it right.
    You wait for VZW upates? Sir, your pants are on fire
    12-17-2012 12:58 PM
  10. pauldroidr2d2's Avatar
    Also, it doesn't matter who's fault the delays are. There are delays plain and simple. If you were sold a device that was "promised" updates then Verizon as the retailer is responsible for the faulty product. If I sold you a bottle of wine that I told you was fabulous and exactly what you were looking for and it turned out to not be the case then I am responsible for replacement with something that fits your needs. Misrepresentation is a problem.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    There were no promises from Verizon regarding the frequency or speed of updates. But, at this point that is irrelevent.
    12-17-2012 01:45 PM
  11. jerrod6's Avatar
    I have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 tablet. My tablet went from 4.1 to 4.2 the day after the code was released, but then near the beginning of December I received a bug fix that pushed it to 4.2.1

    If I am Verizon I am waiting to make sure 4.2.1 is bug free and then I will go to the trouble of testing and sending out an update and the update I send out will be 4.2.1 and not 4.2
    12-17-2012 03:49 PM
  12. vivek615's Avatar
    A Nexus device promises you AOSP based updates straight from Google.. Nothing about speed of the updates.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    Not necessarily... there are GSM nexus devices that are Samsung updated...

    And I don't remember who does toroplus

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    12-17-2012 04:40 PM
  13. vivek615's Avatar
    I don't think it's a question of promises nobody was guaranteed anything and quickness is relative...

    I think we are doing way better than a lot of devices that are the same age


    None of that changes the reality that it was widely believed at launch that this phone would be updated by Google and not subjected to carrier delays.

    We got updates from Google but the second part?

    Now one can say we saw how the nexus s carrier models were treated and nobody should've had illusions...

    But they did. Phones probably sold on that illusion. Even tech media promoted the idea in every review... isn't that a shame?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    12-17-2012 04:48 PM
  14. TabGuy's Avatar
    You wait for VZW upates? Sir, your pants are on fire
    My comment said nothing about what I do. I was comparing Google's motivation to Verizon's motivation.
    12-17-2012 06:36 PM
  15. ConTejas's Avatar
    My comment said nothing about what I do. I was comparing Google's motivation to Verizon's motivation.
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    12-18-2012 11:24 AM
  16. bigdaddytee's Avatar
    Good thing we're talking about the GNex, and not the Thunderbolt... or the Optimus V.

    Sent from the red headed stepchild of the Nexii.
    12-21-2012 08:30 PM
  17. Downtown Taco's Avatar
    There are two conflicting philosophies at work here. Google's philosophy is "Deploy early and deploy often." The "deploy often" is a requirement when deploying early so as to fix the bugs caused by deploying early. The phone company doesn't have that luxury. They have to make sure it works. They can't afford to have FCs on the phone app when someone is calling 911 while their child is dying in a car accident.

    I don't mind waiting as long as Verizon gets it right.
    Dude, that example...just...no. That's unnecessary.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    12-21-2012 11:37 PM
  18. SpiffyItalian's Avatar
    Dude, that example...just...no. That's unnecessary.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    Why? It's valid.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Android Central Forums
    Pollster likes this.
    12-27-2012 08:12 PM
  19. Insp_Gadget's Avatar
    Why? It's valid.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Android Central Forums
    Perhaps, but unnecessarily dramatic for simply proving the point.
    12-27-2012 08:27 PM
  20. ultravisitor's Avatar
    but you would already have unlocked wallet a few minutes before paying right? So then you just tap the phone and it's all done... lock and go no wallet needed...
    You suggest here that paying with Google Wallet happens instantaneously -- just tap and it's done -- but in my experience it's far from such a quick process. I can easily pay more quickly with my credit card, but I like using Google Wallet for the novelty of it.
    12-27-2012 08:59 PM
  21. Insp_Gadget's Avatar
    You suggest here that paying with Google Wallet happens instantaneously -- just tap and it's done -- but in my experience it's far from such a quick process. I can easily pay more quickly with my credit card, but I like using Google Wallet for the novelty of it.
    Works pretty instantly for me. I had a ball using it in Macy's for my holiday shopping.
    12-27-2012 09:27 PM
  22. smokie11's Avatar
    In regards to using Google Wallet, it is a novelty and can be cool but is not something I would rely on. My wallet in my pocket works 100% of the time, nothing about a smart phone works anywhere near 100% of the time. Like I said nothing wrong with liking or using Google Wallet, it just does not fall into my definition of important or needed. Not putting its use down just stating my personal opinion.
    12-29-2012 04:20 PM
  23. Insp_Gadget's Avatar
    In regards to using Google Wallet, it is a novelty and can be cool but is not something I would rely on. My wallet in my pocket works 100% of the time, nothing about a smart phone works anywhere near 100% of the time. Like I said nothing wrong with liking or using Google Wallet, it just does not fall into my definition of important or needed. Not putting its use down just stating my personal opinion.
    Google Wallet may be a novelty to you, and you've already said before that you wouldn't use it, so your opinion is noted.

    As someone who uses it regularly, I can attest that it works very well. It may not fall into your definition of important or needed, but it is an option... one that Verizon decided to take away from their subscribers (in favor of Verizon's own delayed solution). That's not just an opinion. It's a fact, regardless of how much Verizon may say otherwise.

    I'm not saying it's important enough an issue to leave Verizon or take up arms, but I'm also not going to tell people that they shouldn't be upset about their choices being hindered just because my use case (or yours) may differ. That would be arrogant presumption. I'm sure that's not your intent, either.

    I will say (and this part is indeed my opinion) that when companies put their bottom line before customer's best interests, and those customers don't voice their dissatisfaction, it's hard to blame a company for continuing to screw said customer. After all, companies are in business to make money at the consumer's expense.

    Verizon: "Shut up, bend over and take this service the way I say."

    Complaisant customer: "Thank you. May I have another?"

    Just my opinion.
    12-29-2012 06:19 PM
  24. AndroidRobot's Avatar
    Verizon sux. Period. They are slower than death to approve updates - if you ever get the update at all. Strike one.

    Now you can't use the Nexus phones Google sells straight from their site. Strike two.

    Since you can't purchase phones from Google and use on Verizon, that means a contract. Strike three.

    As soon as my contract is up, I'm bolting for another carrier that can use the Google sold Nexus phones where I can upgrade when I want and get updates straight from Google.

    Die Verizon Die. You better hope no one ever sends me a customer survey.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
    m.c.rime likes this.
    12-30-2012 06:17 AM
  25. smokie11's Avatar
    As someone who uses it regularly, I can attest that it works very well. It may not fall into your definition of important or needed, but it is an option... one that Verizon decided to take away from their subscribers (in favor of Verizon's own delayed solution). That's not just an opinion. It's a fact, regardless of how much Verizon may say otherwise.
    I'm not saying it's important enough an issue to leave Verizon or take up arms, but I'm also not going to tell people that they shouldn't be upset about their choices being hindered just because my use case (or yours) may differ. That would be arrogant presumption. I'm sure that's not your intent, either.Just my opinion.
    You are right, it is about having the option to use or not. Verizon takes that away and that is a fact. :-)
    12-30-2012 10:08 AM
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