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    Default Why is the Nexus 4 so popular? These are the problems I have with it...

    16GB on board, no expansion. I need 32GB minimum

    No LTE
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    Default Re: Why is the Nexus 4 so popular? These are the problems I have with it...

    You forgot to mention the lack of a replaceable battery, that's the deal breaker for me. I could tolerate the 16G of FLASH, I'm not happy about it but it hasn't been a problem on my Nexus7. I wouldn't buy a phone without LTE but if I were a T-Mobile customer that wouldn't be an issue since they don't have LTE and AT&T barely has it. But a puny non replaceable battery is inexcusable.

    I think that the only selling point of the N4 is the non-contract price which is important outside if the US but it's a don't care here because almost all phones are bought on contract.
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    It's unlocked, cutting edge technology, top notch build quality, oh, AND IT'S $350 from Google. What exactly don't you understand?

    It's not for everybody, but it is for MOST everybody. Even more so when it's offered for less than half the price of its reasonable competition. Those that have issues with the storage, removable battery, and LTE are in the minority (not to mention the workarounds). It does have Band 4 LTE btw, so it'll work on T-Moblie's LTE in the states and it works in Canada and Mexico right now. LTE has a very small global footprint, you know. That said, it's not enough to give me "any" real sort of new phone envy (nor anything else out now). The fact that I still LOVE my gnex well over a year later shows the true value of the Nexi lines IMO. Feels like I get a new phone almost everytime I flash it and the dev support is still very strong. Great buy and hold devices while still seeming cutting edge late in their useful lives.
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    I dumped VZW for it and have never been happier. Tmobile's HSPA+ is plenty fast and doesn't drain the battery like LTE does.. I kept my Gnex toggled to 3G only most of the time or the battery would never last more than a few hours, so now I get faster speeds than I had on my Gnex regularly and fine battery life. 16 gigs hasn't been an issue, everything I use is in the cloud anyway. The screen is nicer, colors are more accurate, processor is lightning fast, makes the Gnex look like a snail.

    Oh and Tmobile prepaid is now saving me $1200 a year versus what I was paying for VZW. All in all I am extremely satisfied with my decision
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    How is $350 a bargain? I paid $150 for the GN. Being unlocked isn't worth anything either because there is only one LTE network available, Verizon's so being tied to them for two years is no big deal. In a couple more years this might matter, AT&T should have a decent footprint in another year or so but T-Mobile and Sprint will take much longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjrosen View Post
    How is $350 a bargain? I paid $150 for the GN. Being unlocked isn't worth anything either because there is only one LTE network available, Verizon's so being tied to them for two years is no big deal. In a couple more years this might matter, AT&T should have a decent footprint in another year or so but T-Mobile and Sprint will take much longer.
    350 for a new phone is a bargain. Especially if you want no contract and want to go prepaid or on T-Mobile value plan. I am saving 50 bucks a month since I left sprint. If I had bought a brand new gs3 it would have been 600. Used around 400. Instead I paid 330 after tax for a brand new phone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2defmouze View Post
    I dumped VZW for it and have never been happier. Tmobile's HSPA+ is plenty fast and doesn't drain the battery like LTE does.. I kept my Gnex toggled to 3G only most of the time or the battery would never last more than a few hours, so now I get faster speeds than I had on my Gnex regularly and fine battery life. 16 gigs hasn't been an issue, everything I use is in the cloud anyway. The screen is nicer, colors are more accurate, processor is lightning fast, makes the Gnex look like a snail.

    Oh and Tmobile prepaid is now saving me $1200 a year versus what I was paying for VZW. All in all I am extremely satisfied with my decision
    $1200? How many lines?

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    $1200? How many lines?

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    Had technically 2 lines on Verizon, 2nd was one of those $10 add on deals. Total bill was a bit over $130 a month with taxes etc. Now it's $30 a month for the same service.

    And to reiterate LTE is a nice fancy thing that some people fuss about, but if you are fortunate enough to live in an area where Tmo has good coverage you will not miss it. There is no discernable difference between LTE and hspa+ for the average user.

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    Default Re: Why is the Nexus 4 so popular? These are the problems I have with it...

    Read some reviews and you'll see why it's popular. Mostly, popular things are popular because they're good. :P Or they have an Apple logo.
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    Is there a reason why manufacturers opt to not make the battery removable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2defmouze View Post
    Had technically 2 lines on Verizon, 2nd was one of those $10 add on deals. Total bill was a bit over $130 a month with taxes etc. Now it's $30 a month for the same service.

    And to reiterate LTE is a nice fancy thing that some people fuss about, but if you are fortunate enough to live in an area where Tmo has good coverage you will not miss it. There is no discernable difference between LTE and hspa+ for the average user.

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    At my work 4G is considerably faster than the work's wifi connection. 37mb down, 23mb up. I never turn on wifi.

    Not that I need that blazing speed all the time but it just takes the edge off of waiting for anything. Makes for a cleaner experience.
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    Yeah my lte is really making my Gnex a mini computer now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    Is there a reason why manufacturers opt to not make the battery removable?

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    They like to keep the thin profile and no removable battery helps them accomplish that. It seems like Samsung is really the only OEM that is not moving this direction, so far.

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    Did galaxy nexus get photophere? 4.2 jellybean. If so ill regret selling mine somewhat

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    Default Re: Why is the Nexus 4 so popular? These are the problems I have with it...

    I doubt you bought it for $150 unless you bought it used. You may have paid Verizon $150, but you signed a two year contract with that deal. Trust me, they are making up for that lost money. The N4 can be bought without a contract for $350. I paid $300 for my GNEX on a contract brand new. Try finding another top of the line GSM phone unlocked out of contract for nearly that price.


    That said, I don't really care for the Nexus 4.. No removable battery, no SD slot (something I wish I had), and small storage space.
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    I find it comical that the Android community pasted apple when they released the 4s without LTE but praise Google for releasing their 4 without LTE. Kind of a double standard I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svfd757 View Post
    I find it comical that the Android community pasted apple when they released the 4s without LTE but praise Google for releasing their 4 without LTE. Kind of a double standard I think.
    That's funny cuz the N4 has Lte. Its just on a band that currently only T-Mobile is using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellimel22 View Post
    That's funny cuz the N4 has Lte. Its just on a band that currently only T-Mobile is using.

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    I think he needs to do more research.

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    I bought it from Amazon when the GN first came out. The Amazon price was half of the price in a Verizon store. Obviously it's subsidized by Verizon in return for a two year contract but that's the case with most phones that you buy. None of the phone companies offer you a discount if you pay full price for an unlocked phone so there is really no advantage to paying full price for the phone. There also isn't much portability in the US because there are so few carriers and they have incompatible networks. At best you could move between T-Mobile and AT&T, neither of which is an attractive option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIPNINANOUT View Post
    Did galaxy nexus get photophere? 4.2 jellybean. If so ill regret selling mine somewhat

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    Quote Originally Posted by svfd757 View Post
    I find it comical that the Android community pasted apple when they released the 4s without LTE but praise Google for releasing their 4 without LTE. Kind of a double standard I think.
    There is a difference though. The iPhone 4S has 3G, where the Nexus 4 has 4G. Big difference!
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    The nexus 4 has top of the specs is $300-$350 off contract. I realize paying $200 for a contracted phone and then $100 a month is a hell of a lot more expensive than having a nexus 4 prepaid. I pay $50 after tax for ATT service through straight talk. Tell me how much unlimited minutes text and the 3gb data plan would be through them? Probably around $120+ add tax which cell phone companies charge 15%-20% and I save my myself almost $100 a month. Also I understand some people will pay more to a carrier because of LTE or the fact they have stores that u can just walk into if u have a problem or need assistance. To me nothing a carrier can offer is worth that much more money. Sure if I could get a comparable 300 minute unlimited text and 3-4gb of data through Verizon or AT&T for $70 I would probably do it. But LTE isn't worth $100 a month to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellimel22 View Post
    That's funny cuz the N4 has Lte. Its just on a band that currently only T-Mobile is using.

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    I think he needs to do more research.

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    There is a difference though. The iPhone 4S has 3G, where the Nexus 4 has 4G. Big difference!
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    The nexus 4 is one hell of a good phone. Most customers know what they want and are getting prior to purchasing the phone. No expandable memory? Allot of phones will be going that direction in the future and with cloud you don't really need it in my opinion.
    No LTE? Well on t mobile hspa is very fast.
    I would love to get a nexus 4 but I'm currently under contract.. I'm a huge fan. If you don't research prior to buying you can still return the device within your return window. If you don't then who is there to blame?

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    Default Re: Why is the Nexus 4 so popular? These are the problems I have with it...

    Quote Originally Posted by svfd757 View Post
    I find it comical that the Android community pasted apple when they released the 4s without LTE but praise Google for releasing their 4 without LTE. Kind of a double standard I think.
    I dont know if the fact that it is missing LTE is being Praised. in fact, it is one of the CONS that everyone points out. people are just saying they dont miss it much since T-Mobiles H+ network is actually pretty fast. I put my LTE Verizon signal up against my buddies h+ network, and he had the faster speeds. so i for one, dont mind the lack of LTE.


    as for the other stuff OP. to each their own. as long as i have unlimited data, i am OK with only 16GB of storage. I am not a huge gamer. as long as i get can fit all my apps, and a nandroid backup, and a ROM and a Kernel flashable .zip on my phone, I am happy. i currently have a 32GB Gnex, with about 20+ GB free.
    removable battery is also not a Huge deal, although I would really like one. but i am connected to a charger 90% of the time anyway.

    the nicer screen, nicer camera, upgraded processor, 2GB RAM, better build quality, wireless charging along with cheaper off contract price and cheaper plans available, the Nexus 4 is a huge WIN for me. unfortunately, i am locked into my Gnex for another 7 months....and by then, hopefully the next nexus will be right around the corner.
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