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    Default Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Hi,

    New to the forums and Android, but long time follower of the mobile device scene.

    Here is my dilemma: I am Verizon user (can't switch) but am fortunately "grandfather in" to a $30 unlimited data plan. I want a Nexus/stock Android experience. Should I...

    1) Buy a Galaxy Nexus off eBay for about $150. This would allow me have a Nexus device (though I'm aware of Verizon's limitations on software updates) and allow me to keep my unlimited data. I do relaize this phone is getting a little outdated, but maybe it would carry me over until the fall or winter when perhaps Verizon would get the Nexus 5 or "X phone."

    2) Use my upgrade to the S4 when it's available, and plan to root it and run stock Android. I would loose my unlimited data, and I'm also not sure how likely it will be that I can easily root. The announcement of the S4 Google Edition might make the root process and getting stock Android on the device easier, although that phone is for AT&T and T-Mobile, so it might be too different anyway.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by dhhoffm; 05-16-2013 at 02:15 PM.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    wow, you would consider getting rid of a $30 unlimited data plan....
    I think the cheapest reasonable data plan you can get is about $70... at $40 more a month, thats almost $500 a year, a little more then that buys the google edition S4 out right...

    just my thought
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Much appreciated. The loss of data plan has me leaning toward the Galaxy Nexus. I would love a Google Edition S4, but Verizon apparently wants no part of it (or Google no part of Verizon, perhaps).
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by dhhoffm View Post
    Much appreciated. The loss of data plan has me leaning toward the Galaxy Nexus. I would love a Google Edition S4, but Verizon apparently wants no part of it (or Google no part of Verizon, perhaps).
    Google bought Motorola which was strictly Verizon so I think they do want some part haha. Not that this helps your situation at all but I'd suggest being leery of the problems w/ the Nexus since upgrading to 4.2.2. I seems people have been having a ton of issues and I have seen them first hand. It is going to become my phone in a week and some change so I'll see it even more when that happens. Hopefully there's some fixes.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by mookiekillsit View Post
    Google bought Motorola which was strictly Verizon so I think they do want some part haha. Not that this helps your situation at all but I'd suggest being leery of the problems w/ the Nexus since upgrading to 4.2.2. I seems people have been having a ton of issues and I have seen them first hand. It is going to become my phone in a week and some change so I'll see it even more when that happens. Hopefully there's some fixes.
    I realize there is a whole forum dedicated to this, but any major/persistent problems that come to mind? Since I'm only now considering the Nexus for the first time, I haven't been following along, so to speak. Thanks.

    Edit: Just meant to copy that part about the problems with 4.2.2.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by dhhoffm View Post
    I realize there is a whole forum dedicated to this, but any major/persistent problems that come to mind? Since I'm only now considering the Nexus for the first time, I haven't been following along, so to speak. Thanks.

    Edit: Just meant to copy that part about the problems with 4.2.2.
    Battery drains and radio issues also that are apparently hardware problems. Apparently there's some good phones out there but you might just have to return it a couple of times to get it.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Yeah, don't dump your unlimited data. My wife is an iJunky, and just HAD to have the iPhone 5. We pay $20 more a month and she gets data limit messages every month.

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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    dhhoffm, you didn't mention what phone you currently have, but I think you should also consider a 3rd option of holding on to what you have and waiting to see what Nexus 5 or X Phone may be like.

    Of your 2 choices, I would lean toward the Galaxy Nexus. However, as someone has already mentioned, it's not that good in terms of radios and battery. I can live with it, as I live in a pretty strong signal area so I'm usually (but not always) fine and I charge whenever I can, but you'll have to decide for yourself. Depending on what your current device is and your location (signal-wise), the Galaxy Nexus's shortcomings may be unacceptable or ok or even better than what you currently have. If your current device isn't too bad and you can live with it for a few more months, I would at least consider waiting.

    I suppose you can get a Galaxy Nexus and if you don't like it you can switch back to what you're currently using. You may be able to recoup a good part of the $150 back by reselling it.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    I'm on a nexus now and its not bad but not the best neither but no way in hell would I dump my unltd data for anything

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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Do not leave that unlimited plan ever. Verizon is moving to VoLTE, so all voice calls will use data as well.

    If you MUST have Nexus, I'd buy a Verizon S4 full price and put the GE S4 ROM on it.

    The Galaxy Nexus has terrible signal strength. Absolutely terrible.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Everyone: thank you for the input. I just ordered a Galaxy Nexus off of eBay for $160, which comes with a 14 day full return period, so if the radios and battery are really that bad, I'll return and be no worse off. I live in NYC, so I'm thinking the radios shouldn't be a huge issue.

    For background, my daily phone right now is a BlackBerry Bold 9650 (I know, insane). I was a die-hard BlackBerry guy holding out for BB10, but now that it's here, I'm just not that impressed. Just can't deal with the lack of apps any longer, and Google seems to be innovating in so many ways.

    I will hold on to by unlimited data plan as long as possible, and I look forward to my Galaxay Nexus arriving on Monday. Thanks for all the help.
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    Glad you made s decision but you may have been able to find one on swappa a little cheaper but let us know what you think of it

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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    That's nice that you were able to get one with a 14-day return policy. Hope it works out well for you.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Honestly, I hear people afraid about not wanting to lose their unlimited data.. and find out they only use like 1.5 - 2 gigs a month anyways. I got the Verizon 4 Gig plan when they had it at the 2 GB price.. I still have to watch myself to make sure I don't go over the limit, but for most people.. they don't get close to 4 GB.

    I know you already bought the phone.. I wouldn't have recommended this phone.. if anything.. I would have got a used GS3 or Razr HD.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    GNex, unlimited...I have both.
    After the 4.2 update, it was running poorly. On advice from some folks here, I backed up my media and did a factory reset. It's now running as good as ever. I drive all over the country, and I don't have much problem with signals.

    As to the data, I'm on the road three weeks a month, and I use my phone for everything. I average around 25 gb a month, and my wife at home does about 5. What good is a modern, capable smartphone, if your data is limited? It's like having the fastest, coolest car ever, and only having a one gallon gas tank. Verizon is screwing you on tiered data.

    You made a wise choice. I just picked up an extra, used GNex as backup, to make sure we can make it until a Nexus or Google experience phone makes it back to Verizon. I don't want to root, and I don't want manufacturer software. I love vanilla!

    Sent from the (4.2 updated) redheaded stepchild of the Nexii
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    The average amount of data used by people is, and will continue to go up... everything is becoming higher def and using the cloud more and more...
    although I could get by with maybe 2Gb now (if I was really careful and used wifi) that will not be the case in the near future... hence why I would not recommend most people to give up their unlimited data...
    just an example... try streaming netflix for your kids while on a road trip and see how much data you burn through in a day...
    Verizon is smart enough to know this, thats why they are pushing it so hard... not to just make the money now, but in the next few years as data usage continues to increase..
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Thanks for the continued thoughts...Just wanted to post back to say that I've been using the Galaxy Nexus for about 5 days now. Absolutely love it. If I wasn't able to be near a charger most of the day, battery life (with the stock battery) might be a deal breaker, but I can charge often. It's obviously far ahead of my BB Bold (my previous phone), but I also am liking Android more than iOS on my iPad. I will say that I miss the detailed notification preferences (and beside mode) from my BB (which I know can be replicated to some extent through apps), but otherwise very happy with the move. Won't be returning it. For me, the integration with Google products (including Google Now) is the strongest feature.

    As for data, I agree with dcastillo that at the moment I'm probably not taking full advantage of my unlimited data plan and could get by with less, but even a 2gb data plan costs more than my unlimited data plan now ($30 a month, and with my corporate discount it is down to $23), and I will only be using more data in the future. So for me, it makes sense to hang on to that plan for as long as possible, even if it means not upgrading right away or having to buy phones at full price.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Never get rid of your unlimited data plan if you don't have to.

    Buy a RAZR M instead. It's only a little more than the Galaxy Nexus (about $200) on eBay. Faster processor and much better battery life. That's what I plan on doing soon. I've had an upgrade since March and I'd love to snag a GS4 on contract but it's not worth losing unlimited data.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    you could buy at full retail on verizons payment plan

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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    Or you could hit up Shop Android, like I did, and grab a Seidio 3800 extended battery and a Surface case. It really made this an all day phone. And if you don't need NFC, they have one without that's slightly less, around $58 I believe.

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    [Instruction] How to Keep Unlimited Data on Verizon

    There are three options to keep unlimited data:
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    3. Buy the device on Verizon's finance plan: you pay a down payment, similar to the subsidized price, then pay the rest of the amount of the retail price over 24 months + a $2/month finance charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhhoffm View Post
    If I wasn't able to be near a charger most of the day, battery life (with the stock battery) might be a deal breaker,.
    I've resorted to using extended batteries and having battery only chargers at work and at home to charge and carry spare batteries that I swap out (advantage of removable batteries). Also if you use in car and especially if use GPS you should get a car charger that can output 2.1 mA and use a charge only USB cable to keep it charged.

    I too was in a similar situation having to prematurely give up my Verizon GNex. I was hoping to hold out til September for the Galaxy Note 3 and don't want to lose my grandfathered unlimited data (don't let anyone tell you to give it up, future apps will consume more data, you will eventually run up on limits, son's who only used 1GB / month on iPhone 3S went to 10GB/mo when they went to the iPhone 5 due to Hulu which was too slow and unusable on the 3S). Decided to go the eBay route to get another GNex to hold me over until Note 3 comes out. Galaxy S4 too expensive to buy outright, not worth doing the separate account new phone route since getting a Note 3.
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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    If you're into modifying and tweaking your phone, you could unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernel. Also turn down the brightness. It'll save you about 10% battery. Not a lot, but for me, that was enough to make it through a workday on one charge. Using OEM 2100 mAh battery.

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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    I don't have any performance issues with Cyanogenmod. YMMV. I had some hiccups but it turned out to be a crap ton of partial wake locks. I use the Hyperion 3800 mAh battery. NFC works and it'll hangout on standby for seemingly days (at least on Wifi in a solid coverage area). If battery life is truly sucking then I suspect that the user has a ton of crap syncing on a set time and a lot of battery draining stuff turned on like haptic feedback.

    If you have unlimited data and you don't use much, then I don't see the point in keeping it. If you actually use it, then save up and buy what you want and keep the unlimited data. Saving for a phone should be like saving for Christmas. It comes every year yet people are surprised come November.

    As far a phone selection, get what you like but realize that the GNex is aging. It's quickly approaching the 18 month mark and who knows how support will be beyond that point. That said, with Google's new API's, chasing a new version number of Android is kinda pointless.

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    Default Re: Verizon Galaxy Nexus or S4--new to Android, have dilemma, please share thoughts/opinions

    I don't know if u r still think of upgrading or what ever but I have a Samsung galaxy nexus 32g rooted running cm10.1 (jb 4.2.2) very stable very fast works great I love it!!!!! And will sell it for 150!! So I can upgrade to s4 as I do not have unlimited data but I have 3 upgrades
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