11-30-2012 05:09 PM
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  1. Joe the Insider's Avatar
    Believe it or not, i originally preordered the N2, then cancelled it for the DNA, but i just cancelled my DNA and reordered the N2.

    Too many things bother me about the DNA.

    Battery life
    No expandable storage
    Htc is in huge debt
    Sense is intrusive
    S Pen is a great idea
    Multitasking for N2
    Support for accessories
    Screen size
    Camera
    Support for upgrades from google.

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    wnflyer likes this.
    11-14-2012 10:54 PM
  2. blaze5's Avatar
    Believe it or not, i originally preordered the N2, then cancelled it for the DNA, but i just cancelled my DNA and reordered the N2.

    Too many things bother me about the DNA.

    Battery life
    No expandable storage
    Htc is in huge debt
    Sense is intrusive
    S Pen is a great idea
    Multitasking for N2
    Support for accessories
    Screen size
    Camera
    Support for upgrades from google.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Android Central Forums
    Agree the DNA doesn't have any exciting features besides the screen on a side note how many updates do you think the note 2 will receive

    Sent from my PC36100
    11-14-2012 10:55 PM
  3. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    Anybody thinking about "renting" the DNA and pay the $30 to switch to the N2? I kinda am.
    11-14-2012 10:58 PM
  4. JWatson4701's Avatar
    Every time I read about the DNA I start to think more and more to myself how I could deal with the storage and what-not. I think this mostly comes from the small part of me that is an HTC fanboy, and feeling nostalgic over my tbolt (yes I actually enjoy my tbolt). Then I watch about the Note 2 features like smart stay and the equation solver in s-note (I'm an engineering student so this in particular excites me) and get all hot and bothered for the Note 2 again. In a time were our phones are defined by the software, the Note 2 takes the cake. The DNA to me is just a tbolt with a 5" display and a better processor. Whereas the Note 2 is a completely different animal.
    11-14-2012 11:12 PM
  5. JHBThree's Avatar
    Big thing to consider is the size. The DNA is big, but it's only slightly bigger than the S3. The Note, on the other hand, is significantly bigger.
    11-14-2012 11:15 PM
  6. SHIVA77's Avatar
    The Note, on the other hand, is significantly bigger.
    but it's a very nice size. I was playing with it, I could put it in my pants pocket and also fit easily in my jacket chest pocket. It's big, but it's very useable. and in two years where 4.8" phones are the standard it won't seem so large.
    11-14-2012 11:43 PM
  7. Podgorica's Avatar
    Anybody thinking about "renting" the DNA and pay the $30 to switch to the N2? I kinda am.
    How would you do that? Wouldn't you have to pay $100? I was thinking about this just because I cannot wait to switch to android.
    11-14-2012 11:44 PM
  8. kilofoxtrot's Avatar
    How would you do that? Wouldn't you have to pay $100? I was thinking about this just because I cannot wait to switch to android.
    You can return a phone as long as its within 14 days for a $30 restocking fee. Of course you would have to pay the difference between (in this case the DNA and N2) which is $100.

    If you planned on getting the Note anyway, then the $100 is a moot point. But it will cost you $30 to return the DNA.

    If you do this, make sure you take very very good care of the DNA while you "rent" it. VZW want let you return it if you junk it while in your possesion.
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    11-15-2012 08:26 AM
  9. JHBThree's Avatar
    but it's a very nice size. I was playing with it, I could put it in my pants pocket and also fit easily in my jacket chest pocket. It's big, but it's very useable. and in two years where 4.8" phones are the standard it won't seem so large.
    For most people the note ii will just be too big.
    11-15-2012 01:33 PM
  10. volsfan0911's Avatar
    I was waiting for the DNA but like a lot of other folks it seems like on here, the lack of a SD card slot and non-removable battery took it off my short list. Tired of iPhone 4 and the 5 just doesn't do it for me so has come down to N2 or RazrMaxx HD. For the money, I like the N2 better and that's what I've ordered. Will see when it gets here if it's too big. The demo unit I played with at T-mob was doable - not a one handed phone for me 99% of the time but I can deal with that.
    11-15-2012 04:47 PM
  11. chuckawd's Avatar
    Multiwindow will be a huge advance in mobile technology and I believe the N2 will pioneer this wave. It will not outsell the DNA specifically on Verizon I don't believe but it beats the DNA in most every category besides the screen.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
    11-15-2012 08:42 PM
  12. KSChris's Avatar
    I have way more than 11 GB of music on my phone right now. I wouldn't be able to sacrifice all that for the DNA's 11 usabale GB of storage.

    Plus, I really don't like Sense anymore.

    And the nonremoveable battery just puts it even more in the NO category.

    Gorgeous screen, but it doesn't make up for its faults.
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    11-16-2012 12:54 PM
  13. pgreeny69's Avatar
    I have way more than 11 GB of music on my phone right now. I wouldn't be able to sacrifice all that for the DNA's 11 usabale GB of storage.

    Plus, I really don't like Sense anymore.

    And the nonremoveable battery just puts it even more in the NO category.

    Gorgeous screen, but it doesn't make up for its faults.
    Really for me that's the biggest deal breaker. 11 gig is not near enough. I use my phone for music, movies, and games that my daughter enjoys while out at a brothers ball game or when I am traveling for work. The whole point of the big screen is to only carry one device for me anyway. Bigger battery and storage and I'd be really interested. Pre ordered note 2 today at BB.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Android Central Forums
    11-17-2012 08:49 PM
  14. JHBThree's Avatar
    Multiwindow will be a huge advance in mobile technology and I believe the N2 will pioneer this wave. It will not outsell the DNA specifically on Verizon I don't believe but it beats the DNA in most every category besides the screen.

    Sent from AOSP Thundershed powered 4GLTE Thunderbolt
    ...and processor, and radios/antenna, camera, and so on. The N2 is a good device, but it doesn't beat the DNA. (Not that it matters, since they don't compete with each other anyways)
    11-17-2012 11:29 PM
  15. elvis1935's Avatar
    The n2 will and always beat the dna.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Android Central Forums
    11-18-2012 12:37 AM
  16. JHBThree's Avatar
    The n2 will and always beat the dna.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Android Central Forums
    Not really.
    11-18-2012 01:43 AM
  17. blaze5's Avatar
    Not really.
    If it didn't have the 1080p screen what's the selling point of the DNA I could care less because I know I'm getting the note 2 but imo the DNA just has a better screen and processor and camera is debateable but then what else does it have that the note 2 can't do

    Sent from my PC36100
    11-18-2012 01:46 AM
  18. JHBThree's Avatar
    If it didn't have the 1080p screen what's the selling point of the DNA I could care less because I know I'm getting the note 2 but imo the DNA just has a better screen and processor and camera is debateable but then what else does it have that the note 2 can't do

    Sent from my PC36100
    Processor and camera are big ones, as are the design, build quality, and the size of the device. Even if it had a 720p screen it would still have all of those other things.
    11-18-2012 01:48 AM
  19. blaze5's Avatar
    Processor and camera are big ones, as are the design, build quality, and the size of the device. Even if it had a 720p screen it would still have all of those other things.
    You can't put size of the device because a lot of people will like the note 2 and like you said its not the same category I agree with you on design and.build quality but what can It do that note 2 can't do that's my question just because it has an s4 pro and the note 2 has the exynos 4412 in real life use you cant tell

    Sent from my PC36100
    11-18-2012 01:52 AM
  20. CyD13's Avatar
    Processor and camera are big ones, as are the design, build quality, and the size of the device. Even if it had a 720p screen it would still have all of those other things.
    Despite the more-than-slight-but-less-than-significantly better processor, the DNA has more lag than the Note 2 as far as I've heard from reviews (thank you 1080p). The camera isn't good in low light according to more than one review, and the design is faulty at best. Power button at the center top of the device? Horrible. A usb battery door? Ugh. Volume rocker flush with the side? Infuriating. Lack of menu button? There goes screen real estate. Non-removable battery with 35% LESS power than the Note 2? Lack of SD card slot and 11 gigs usable storage? Yay useless limits!

    HTC Sense is visually less chaotic than TWiz, but where is HTC's solution to the true multitasking dilemma? They don't have one. In fact, they went the opposite direction and borked it with their version of the task switcher. TWiz on the other hand has popop note, popup browser, and popup video AND it has the multitasking tab ala Windows 8. Smart actions like smart stay and rotation, voice actions allowing you to capture a picture by saying a word, or snoozing the alarm by saying snooze. Hand gestures like swiping to capture a screenshot (which is WAY faster than holding the power/volume button). Really, the list goes on and on and on. I haven't even started with the S Pen yet.

    Literally the ONLY way the DNA beats the Note 2 is the screen and the materials used to build it. Everything else is a sacrifice.
    11-18-2012 03:18 AM
  21. blaze5's Avatar
    The DNA has more lag than the Note 2, as far as I've heard from reviews (thank you 1080p). The camera isn't good in low light according to more than one review, and the design is faulty at best. Power button at the center top of the device? Horrible. A usb battery door? Ugh. Volume rocker flush with the side? Infuriating. Lack of menu button? There goes a bit of screen real estate. Non-removable battery with 35% LESS power than the Note 2? Lack of SD card slot and 11 gigs usable storage? Yay useless limits!

    HTC Sense is visually less chaotic than TWiz, but where is HTC's solution to the true multitasking dilemma? They don't have one. In fact, they went the opposite direction and borked it with their version of the task switcher. TWiz on the other hand has popop note, popup browser, and popup video AND it has the multitasking tab ala Windows 8. Smart actions like smart stay and rotation, voice actions allowing you to capture a picture by saying a word, or snoozing the alarm by saying snooze. Hand gestures like swiping to capture a screenshot (which is WAY faster than holding the power/volume button). Really, the list goes on and on and on. I haven't even started with the S Pen yet.

    Literally the ONLY way the DNA beats the Note 2 is the screen and the materials used to build it. Everything else is a sacrifice.
    The s4 pro is a better processor then the exynos4412 but unless you want a phone that can be benchmark king its no difference in real world usage imo maybe I'm wrong I'm not hating on the DNA I just don't see what makes this phone so much better then the screen.

    Sent from my PC36100
    11-18-2012 03:27 AM
  22. JHBThree's Avatar
    Despite the more-than-slight-but-less-than-significantly better processor, the DNA has more lag than the Note 2 as far as I've heard from reviews (thank you 1080p). The camera isn't good in low light according to more than one review, and the design is faulty at best. Power button at the center top of the device? Horrible. A usb battery door? Ugh. Volume rocker flush with the side? Infuriating. Lack of menu button? There goes screen real estate. Non-removable battery with 35% LESS power than the Note 2? Lack of SD card slot and 11 gigs usable storage? Yay useless limits!
    The processor is significantly better. Your design criticisms are subjective. (And it sounds like you're basing your entire opinion of this device on the verges review) also, the USB flap exists because the device is waterproof/splash proof.

    The menu button criticism is nonsensical. That button has been deprecated in android. If you want to get technical about it, the one in the wrong is Samsung for including one.


    HTC Sense is visually less chaotic than TWiz, but where is HTC's solution to the true multitasking dilemma? They don't have one. In fact, they went the opposite direction and borked it with their version of the task switcher. TWiz on the other hand has popop note, popup browser, and popup video AND it has the multitasking tab ala Windows 8. Smart actions like smart stay and rotation, voice actions allowing you to capture a picture by saying a word, or snoozing the alarm by saying snooze. Hand gestures like swiping to capture a screenshot (which is WAY faster than holding the power/volume button). Really, the list goes on and on and on. I haven't even started with the S Pen yet.
    99% of what you listed is subjective, and much of it isn't even true. The multitasking issue? Yeah, that was fixed about six months ago and hasn't been present on any HTC handsets since then.

    All of the pop up, s pen, etc stuff you mention is irrelevant, because the note is trying to be a tablet while the DNA is trying to just be a regular smartphone. They do not compete against each other.

    Literally the ONLY way the DNA beats the Note 2 is the screen and the materials used to build it. Everything else is a sacrifice.
    We're going to have to agree to disagree, because EVERYTHING you posted has to do with software, which is entirely subjective.
    11-18-2012 01:46 PM
  23. sux2bu's Avatar
    I think it's hilarious when people say they don't compete with each other. I seriously considered canceling my Note 2 preorder for the DNA. If I am seriously considering two phones, then they are indeed competing, for me. Just because they aren't in the same category doesn't mean they aren't competing.
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    11-18-2012 02:39 PM
  24. blaze5's Avatar
    I think it's hilarious when people say they don't compete with each other. I seriously considered canceling my Note 2 preorder for the DNA. If I am seriously considering two phones, then they are indeed competing, for me. Just because they aren't in the same category doesn't mean they aren't competing.
    What your saying is true but I mean they don't compete because the DNA is a smartphone and not a phablet but if I was considering the DNA like I am considering the note 2 then yes they compete against each other for me

    Sent from my PC36100
    11-18-2012 03:05 PM
  25. elvis1935's Avatar
    What your saying is true but I mean they don't compete because the DNA is a smartphone and not a phablet but if I was considering the DNA like I am considering the note 2 then yes they compete against each other for me

    Sent from my PC36100
    Where does smartphone end and phablet begin? Would it not be at the 5in. Mark.

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    11-18-2012 04:27 PM
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