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    Default Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behind?

    Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behind?

    (Verizon Galaxy Note 2 currently at 4.1.2.... no 4.2 or 4.3 yet.... probably will never be officially
    updated to 4.4... at least not for another couple of years?)
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Officially, yes. I say who cares? It'll get 4.2 or 4.3 near the end of the year or beginning of the next. Honestly, there's no features I would miss if I were to rock the Note 2 again.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by MissyHaney View Post
    Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behind?

    (Verizon Galaxy Note 2 currently at 4.1.2.... no 4.2 or 4.3 yet.... probably will never be officially
    updated to 4.4... at least not for another couple of years?)
    I am guessing that Google is requesting all phones move to the final version of Jellybean (4.3) if capable. So I am guessing it will get 4.3. but that will be the last update if it does receive it.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by MissyHaney View Post
    Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behind?

    (Verizon Galaxy Note 2 currently at 4.1.2.... no 4.2 or 4.3 yet.... probably will never be officially
    updated to 4.4... at least not for another couple of years?)
    Rumor has it that Samsung is planning on skipping 4.2 for their devices. Not confirmed, as there was a leaked 4.2 for the S3.

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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    It could be worse. I have a few friends who are still 6 months from upgrading and are still on Gingerbread.

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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Well, even a Google device like the Verizon Galaxy Nexus was 4 updates behind at one point... So for a non Nexus on Verizon to be behind 3 updates isn't terrible.

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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    depends on who you are how far behind youll be. im running 4.3 now. its not TW but its the latest and greatest
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by dpham00 View Post
    Well, even a Google device like the Verizon Galaxy Nexus was 4 updates behind at one point... So for a non Nexus on Verizon to be behind 3 updates isn't terrible.

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    VZW GNex was never more than 1 update behind...
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by return_0 View Post
    VZW GNex was never more than 1 update behind...
    " How Many Updates Behind is the Verizon Galaxy Nexus? Four.

    by: Kellex | posted 02.12.13 | News
    verizon galaxy nexus

    Over the last year, we have taken to pointing out publicly that the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus continues to fall further and further behind when it comes to updates. In fact, we created the idea of counting them out when the device fell three full updates behind other Nexus devices, a bandwagon that other sites appear to have jumped on. So since Android 4.2.2 is rolling out to the Galaxy Nexus (GSM version), we should probably update the count as it has officially reached four.

    The last update that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus received was Android 4.1.1 (JRO03O) on September 21. Since then, Google has pushed out Android 4.1.2, 4.2, 4.2.1, and now 4.2.2 to the rest of their Nexus lineup. Count Ďem Ė thatís four full updates.

    If you havenít yet, be sure to read my thoughts on Nexus devices never being tied to another carrier again. Itís times like these that Iím not sure I even need to argue many of the points made.

    Thank Buddha for custom ROMs. At least the device is still technically a ďNexus.Ē'

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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by dpham00 View Post
    " How Many Updates Behind is the Verizon Galaxy Nexus? Four.

    by: Kellex | posted 02.12.13 | News
    verizon galaxy nexus

    Over the last year, we have taken to pointing out publicly that the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus continues to fall further and further behind when it comes to updates. In fact, we created the idea of counting them out when the device fell three full updates behind other Nexus devices, a bandwagon that other sites appear to have jumped on. So since Android 4.2.2 is rolling out to the Galaxy Nexus (GSM version), we should probably update the count as it has officially reached four.

    The last update that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus received was Android 4.1.1 (JRO03O) on September 21. Since then, Google has pushed out Android 4.1.2, 4.2, 4.2.1, and now 4.2.2 to the rest of their Nexus lineup. Count Ďem Ė thatís four full updates.

    If you havenít yet, be sure to read my thoughts on Nexus devices never being tied to another carrier again. Itís times like these that Iím not sure I even need to argue many of the points made.

    Thank Buddha for custom ROMs. At least the device is still technically a ďNexus.Ē'

    http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/12...xy-nexus-four/

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II via Tapatalk 4
    If you're counting minor updates, then the Note 2 is six updates behind: 4.1.2, 4.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and 4.3.1.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by return_0 View Post
    If you're counting minor updates, then the Note 2 is six updates behind: 4.1.2, 4.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and 4.3.1.
    Has 4.3.1 been updated officially to any devices yet? Anyway, even if it has, 4 updates behind on a Nexus device vs. 6 on a niche device isn't terrible, imo. Verizon has always been slow releasing updates so this isn't anything new. If your highest priority is getting timely updates, get either Nexus phones or gpe.

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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by dpham00 View Post
    Has 4.3.1 been updated officially to any devices yet? Anyway, even if it has, 4 updates behind on a Nexus device vs. 6 on a niche device isn't terrible, imo. Verizon has always been slow releasing updates so this isn't anything new. If your highest priority is getting timely updates, get either Nexus phones or gpe.

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    4.3.1 has been released on Nexus devices.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    By released do you mean the new version will be announced? Because won't it be a couple of weeks before it comes to devices?
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by return_0 View Post
    4.3.1 has been released on Nexus devices.
    Huh, I googled Nexus 4 and 4.3.1 and couldn't find any info about it being pushed to the phones, but I will take your word for it. 5 updates or 6 updates behind isn't really a huge difference, imo, considering it is still jelly bean.

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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    that's funny, cause before my GNex broke I had 4.2.2 on Verizon
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by return_0 View Post
    4.3.1 has been released on Nexus devices.
    There has been a minor security update released to all Nexus devices and a bugfix for the 2013 Nexus 7, but it was only a patch to 4.3. 4.3.1 has not been released yet.
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    Zoinks! I'll be even further behind, my Note 2 is still on 4.1.1. Seriously though, it makes no difference to me. My Note 2 works great on the original release software it came with. I'm also rooted though, froze the OTA updater and have modified/tweaked the system, so at a minimum I'd have to reverse most of that to be able to take an OTA update (if one were to be available). Regardless though if rooted or not, there would have to be some very compelling reasons to update to newer software other than just that's it's newer. Personally, I need justifiable reasons to consider an update.

    I guess my whole point is that updates are not without risk (rooted or not). They can cause system instability that may require a master (factory) reset to fix, or they can introduce new bugs or even break existing apps. In the meantime you're stuck waiting for another OS update to fix or for the dev to fix their app. Just something to consider when wishing for new OS updates.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by Synycalwon View Post
    Zoinks! I'll be even further behind, my Note 2 is still on 4.1.1. Seriously though, it makes no difference to me. My Note 2 works great on the original release software it came with. I'm also rooted though, froze the OTA updater and have modified/tweaked the system, so at a minimum I'd have to reverse most of that to be able to take an OTA update (if one were to be available). Regardless though if rooted or not, there would have to be some very compelling reasons to update to newer software other than just that's it's newer. Personally, I need justifiable reasons to consider an update.

    I guess my whole point is that updates are not without risk (rooted or not). They can cause system instability that may require a master (factory) reset to fix, or they can introduce new bugs or even break existing apps. In the meantime you're stuck waiting for another OS update to fix or for the dev to fix their app. Just something to consider when wishing for new OS updates.
    I would rather be on the latest software, as it may have security patches. Plus, I have extended warranty so if I have an issue, Verizon would just send me a replacement. Though I usually wait a few days after the release of an update to see if others are experiencing issues.

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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by dpham00 View Post
    I would rather be on the latest software, as it may have security patches. Plus, I have extended warranty so if I have an issue, Verizon would just send me a replacement. Though I usually wait a few days after the release of an update to see if others are experiencing issues.
    Normally I'd agree with you if we were talking about Windows, a system where Microsoft has had to resort to a monthly patch cycle to try to keep the system less vulnerable. IMHO, Android doesn't have the same threat landscape to warrant much concern, even with some outstanding unpatched security issues. The system is inherently more robust and takes a lot to be exploited. In particular it takes very risky end user behavior to potentially exploit the system (ex. installing apps from untrusted sources). Even then, you can typically just do a master (factory) reset and may be change your Google account password for good measure to get things back to a known clean state.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by Synycalwon View Post
    Normally I'd agree with you if we were talking about Windows, a system where Microsoft has had to resort to a monthly patch cycle to try to keep the system less vulnerable. IMHO, Android doesn't have the same threat landscape to warrant much concern, even with some outstanding unpatched security issues. The system is inherently more robust and takes a lot to be exploited. In particular it takes very risky end user behavior to potentially exploit the system (ex. installing apps from untrusted sources). Even then, you can typically just do a master (factory) reset and may be change your Google account password for good measure to get things back to a known clean state.
    It's a moo point anyway.(like a cow's opinion, which doesn't matter) If we're lucky, Samsung and Verizon will release 4.3 update for the Verizon Galaxy Note 2 around March 2014. 4.3 will be the final OTA update.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfdriver97 View Post
    Rumor has it that Samsung is planning on skipping 4.2 for their devices. Not confirmed, as there was a leaked 4.2 for the S3.
    so wll this mean for the people ith the s3 mini that are sopposted to get 4.2 we wont get it?? :O
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Jelly Bean only has 3 API levels covered, 16-18 which correspond to 4.1.x, 4.2.x and 4.3.x. If you're on any 4.2.x you're on API level 17. So the Note 2 is currently two levels behind (with many versions in between) and 19 is still at least a month out.

    The Verizon GNex I'm not sure what version Verizon is on, mine's been on 4.3 since about 4 hours after it was announced thanks to devs.

    A good question to ask is, "what features or stability improvements, etc. will 4.3 bring to the Note 2 that 4.2 wouldn't?", etc. When you're on such feaure heavy devices, pure android updates aren't often bringing a lot.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    If you have Android 4.0 or greater, you are going to be fine. I don't know what stellar features in 4.3 people are really looking forward to.

    Features that are available in 4.2 were already done with applications before hand like lockscreen widgets.

    Except for the rare instances, most developers are using the based sdk of 2.2 and if they are targeting any special features they are going to focus on 4.0 to get as much backwards compatible as possible.

    Here is the latest Android version percentage picture. I wouldn't be surprise in a few months that 4.3 is only going to be 2-5 percent of the market.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingIsTrue View Post
    Jelly Bean only has 3 API levels covered, 16-18 which correspond to 4.1.x, 4.2.x and 4.3.x. If you're on any 4.2.x you're on API level 17. So the Note 2 is currently two levels behind (with many versions in between) and 19 is still at least a month out.

    The Verizon GNex I'm not sure what version Verizon is on, mine's been on 4.3 since about 4 hours after it was announced thanks to devs.

    A good question to ask is, "what features or stability improvements, etc. will 4.3 bring to the Note 2 that 4.2 wouldn't?", etc. When you're on such feaure heavy devices, pure android updates aren't often bringing a lot.
    Sadly, most people don't download the full SDK, so they don't understand API levels. It's a very important concept to understand that gets looked over by almost everyone.
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    Default Re: Now that Android 4.4 Kit Kat is about to be released, will this make Note 2 three versions behin

    Quote Originally Posted by bearda View Post
    There has been a minor security update released to all Nexus devices and a bugfix for the 2013 Nexus 7, but it was only a patch to 4.3. 4.3.1 has not been released yet.
    Oh, I see. Oops, sorry about that. But the Note 2 is still 5 updates behind in that case.
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