[scuba561]

So I am about to upgrade from the original DINC to the SIII and I start to hear about radio issues with the SII.

How bad is the radio on the SII and improved will it be on the SIII?

Anyone have real tests yet from the European release of SIII?

[Premium1]

So I am about to upgrade from the original DINC to the SIII and I start to hear about radio issues with the SII.

How bad is the radio on the SII and improved will it be on the SIII?

Anyone have real tests yet from the European release of SIII?

1. completely different chip set so nobody knows if it will also have new radios
2. cant really compare international radios since those are gsm and Verizon uses cdma

[moosc]

Most likely same as nexus and they suck. But this is Samsung and there radios suck. Another reason why if its not nexus then I'm not buying Samsung phones

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[Premium1]

Most likely same as nexus and they suck. But this is Samsung and there radios suck. Another reason why if its not nexus then I'm not buying Samsung phones

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Samsung is the most dev friendly devices out there, plus the nexus line doesn't really have the best of specs so I would take a phone with better specs over a nexus since the nexus doesn't even get timely updates anymore....

[ProvDev]

Most likely same as nexus and they suck.

Nope..will not be the same. GS3 has the S4 SoC (MSM 8960) with the radios integrated on the same chip with CPU/GPU (wifi, GPS, and BT also on-die) at 28nm. Very different setup than the 45nm OMAP with separate radios. Only time will tell if it equals an improvement over the GNex.

Droid Inc used a Snapdragon QSD 8650 SoC with modem for cellular communication on-die.

In essence... the US GS3 shares more SoC/radio heritage with the Dinc than it does with the VZW Gnex with the OMAP Soc.

[Premium1]

Nope..will not be the same. GS3 has the S4 SoC (MSM 8960) with the radios integrated on the same chip with CPU/GPU (wifi, GPS, and BT also on-die) at 28nm. Very different setup than the 45nm OMAP with separate radios. Only time will tell if it equals an improvement over the GNex.

Droid Inc used a Snapdragon QSD 8650 SoC with modem for cellular communication on-die.

In essence... the US GS3 shares more SoC/radio heritage with the Dinc than it does with the VZW Gnex with the OMAP Soc.

Good to see someone realizes how it is completely different chipset and radios than Samsung has used in the past. On Verizon they have never used a QUALCOMM modem before, it has always been their hummingbird or the omap in the case of the nexus.

[ProvDev]

Good to see someone realizes how it is completely different chipset and radios than Samsung has used in the past. On Verizon they have never used a QUALCOMM modem before, it has always been their hummingbird or the omap in the case of the nexus.

This is the reason I am excited for this phone... it has the chance to be the first LTE phone with acceptable battery life (that doesn't need a car battery.. ala Razr Max)!!!!

[Premium1]

This is the reason I am excited for this phone... it has the chance to be the first LTE phone with acceptable battery life (that doesn't need a car battery.. ala Razr Max)!!!!

Agree. I can't wait til the preorders come in and I get to see how it pans out.

[firetruck41]

Most likely same as nexus and they suck. But this is Samsung and there radios suck. Another reason why if its not nexus then I'm not buying Samsung phones

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A simpler answer would have been " I don't know"

[Dukins]

This is the reason I am excited for this phone... it has the chance to be the first LTE phone with acceptable battery life (that doesn't need a car battery.. ala Razr Max)!!!!

For future reference the Maxx doesn't have a car battery.

My wife is excited for her pre-order. The Nexus doesn't give me any assurance that Samsung radios are going to be any better than they have been in the past. I think I will be running her phone through its paces to make sure she'll be able to get a signal in an emergency situation.

[ProvDev]

For future reference the Maxx doesn't have a car battery.

I could have been more clear Maxx battery (while not overly large in size) is the largest capacity of LTE phones available. The usability of the Maxx is achieved through packing in a lot of mAh not by power efficiency.

[hal1]

I'm concerned with some of the apps i use. I got the nexus the first day and returned it the second. Could not get a solid stream for TuneIn Radio app.. praying this is better

[Premium1]

I'm concerned with some of the apps i use. I got the nexus the first day and returned it the second. Could not get a solid stream for TuneIn Radio app.. praying this is better

So you had the phone 1 day and returned it? You know ICS was a new version and some apps had to be updated to work?

[hal1]

So you had the phone 1 day and returned it? You know ICS was a new version and some apps had to be updated to work?

Yes, I do realize that it may have been the apps not playing nice. It would stream for about 15 seconds then quite. I live with A Online Radio, Resco Radio, and TuneIn Radio. Hoping they work with the S3

However, I mostly returned it because I was not diggin' the "pure" android experience. I like UI's, and menu buttons. Really like Sense and hoping I can live with Touch-Wiz

[Jdm4292]

So the radio will be good? Like Motorola quality?

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[Cruiserdude]

We won't know for sure until we have the device in hand. But this will use a Qualcomm SoC (originators of the CDMA standard) with all radios, including LTE, on the same chip. Thus its low-level firmware should be simpler and with less chance for bugs and translation errors. Not to mention that you won't have to worry about I/O bottlenecks between separate chips. The radios will use less power and have more efficient communication with the rest of the system, so yes I would expect this phone to be very good in terms of signal strength and quality.

I had a Droid Charge, and after all the issues I had Samsung themselves decided that their chips weren't ready for LTE yet. A company as successful as Samsung learns from their mistakes, and obviously Exynos 4 chips were not performing adequately with LTE, so they would logically go with the very best solution available. The Nexus doesn't really fit in to this argument, since it was designed and spec'd by Google, not Samsung, and they didn't really have CDMA in mind. Samsung pretty much had to take the Google-designed GSM version, shoehorn a CDMA/LTE radio setup in there, and hope for the best.

All that to say that I would expect the SGS3 to be more power efficient than any other LTE device so far, as well as be one of the best in terms of signal reception and quality, due to the S4 SoC. But ultimately we won't know until we get them in our hands, will we?

[Jdm4292]

We won't know for sure until we have the device in hand. But this will use a Qualcomm SoC (originators of the CDMA standard) with all radios, including LTE, on the same chip. Thus its low-level firmware should be simpler and with less chance for bugs and translation errors. Not to mention that you won't have to worry about I/O bottlenecks between separate chips. The radios will use less power and have more efficient communication with the rest of the system, so yes I would expect this phone to be very good in terms of signal strength and quality.

I had a Droid Charge, and after all the issues I had Samsung themselves decided that their chips weren't ready for LTE yet. A company as successful as Samsung learns from their mistakes, and obviously Exynos 4 chips were not performing adequately with LTE, so they would logically go with the very best solution available. The Nexus doesn't really fit in to this argument, since it was designed and spec'd by Google, not Samsung, and they didn't really have CDMA in mind. Samsung pretty much had to take the Google-designed GSM version, shoehorn a CDMA/LTE radio setup in there, and hope for the best.

All that to say that I would expect the SGS3 to be more power efficient than any other LTE device so far, as well as be one of the best in terms of signal reception and quality, due to the S4 SoC. But ultimately we won't know until we get them in our hands, will we?

No we won't, but I appreciate the detail of your post. It helps explain quite a lot.


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[aaroninky]

Mobile Syrup has a quick preview of the S III running on LTE in Toronto up on Youtube. The phone is running on Bell's LTE service. The guy in the video said with 8 hours of "decent" use he still had 39% battery remaining.



All the other stuff was pretty standard for the videos coming out now, just highlighting the hardware and a short look at TouchWiz. It was good to hear that with the LTE radios going he still had respectable battery life.

[rbess1965]

This is the reason I am excited for this phone... it has the chance to be the first LTE phone with acceptable battery life (that doesn't need a car battery.. ala Razr Max)!!!!

To say that the Maxx battery resembles that of a car battery is a bit much don’t you think? Does that imply that the 3300mAh is somehow making it too bulky for some? I don’t think so. Have you seen the extended batteries attached to the back of the other 90% of smart phones out there? Making them look like that parasite thing in Aliens just so a user can get through a full day. Now those are car batteries! Most users would kill to have 3300mAh under the hood of a sub 9mm chassis. I happen to have an ATT GSIII in hand as we speak and it's sweet looking, I'll give it that, but it still needs to prove itself to all of us in function and quality. This unit is not mine so sadly I can't power it up and take it for a spin but I can take a few snap shots of it next to my Maxx to back up what I'm saying. I challenge you to see a noticeable enough difference in thickness to make comments like that. Most will wrap it up in a bulky protective case anyway because seriously, it feels that fragile. In person I can tell that the GSIII is in fact a hair thinner but not nearly enough to make a statement such as that. Hope you guys enjoy the photos and I apologize ahead of time for the quality of the shots. They were taken with a Blackberry! How about that, got a slam in on a BB To sum up what I'm saying, it's an amazingly flashy looking device but It needs to have better reliabily than the Nexus or the Charge I once had, before I would ever jump back on that bandwagon.Time will tell all.

[NightxFall]

Have you seen the extended batteries attached to the back of the other 90% of smart phones out there? Making them look like that parasite looking thing in Aliens, just so you can get through a full day. You've probably sported one of these yourself before Those are car batteries! Most users would kill to have 3300mAh under the hood of a sub 9mm chassis but not you. You're the one in a million that thinks that is thick LOL at ya. I happen to have an ATT GSIII in hand as we speak and it's sweet looking, I'll give it that, but it still has a way to go to prove itself to all of us in function and quality. This unit is not mine so sadly I can't power it up and take it for a spin but I can take a few snap shots of it next to my Maxx to back up what I'm saying. I challenge you to see a noticeable enough difference in thickness to make comments like that. Most will wrap it up in a bulky protective case anyway because seriously, it feels that fragile. In person I can tell that the GSIII is in fact a hair thinner but not remotely enough to make a statement such as yours. Hope you guys enjoy the photos and I apologize ahead of time for the quality of the shots. They were taken with a Blackberry! How about that, got a Slam in on a BB

Thanks for that comparison! I'm surprised; the GS3 and the Razr Maxx are actually about the same size! I won't be putting my S3 in a bulky protective case however, but will probably put it in a barely there case if it really does feel that fragile.

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[Wildo6882]

I'm definitely curious, too, and appreciate the input in this thread. I'm waiting to see in-action testing before I try to swap my 4S for one.

[GSDer]

A company as successful as Samsung learns from their mistakes....so they would logically go with the very best solution available.

Too bad they didn't go with the 'very best solution' when it came to screen technology.
And I for one wouldn't have complained if they had gone with a 3300maH non-removable battery if the phone was as slim as a RAZR Maxx. But since this is the only new phone available on Verizon before the unlimited data hammer falls I'll be diving into the untested waters of the SGS3 with the rest of you.

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[ProvDev]

To say that the Maxx battery resembles that of a car battery is a bit much don’t you think?

Nope. I though I clarified what I meant in this post.

I could have been more clear Maxx battery (while not overly large in size) is the largest capacity of LTE phones available. The usability of the Maxx is achieved through packing in a lot of mAh not by power efficiency.

I was not insinuating that the Maxx is a large phone... although I will admit my original post could be construed that way. What I meant was the Maxx does not have an efficient chipset. How Moto achieved the lasting battery life was by packing a large mAh battery into the phone.

Personally I will take an efficient chipset with a removable battery (even smaller mAh) over Moto's approach. But to each their own.

[Cruiserdude]

Too bad they didn't go with the 'very best solution' when it came to screen technology.
And I for one wouldn't have complained if they had gone with a 3300maH non-removable battery if the phone was as slim as a RAZR Maxx. But since this is the only new phone available on Verizon before the unlimited data hammer falls I'll be diving into the untested waters of the SGS3 with the rest of you.

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I still feel that AMOLED is the future of display technology, and I applaud Samsung for continuing to further develop it. I've heard a few issues about the splotchiness etc, but I would imagine its even better than the SAMOLED+ on my Charge, and that was absolutely beautiful. So I will have to reserve judgement until I see it.

I would love an even larger battery, but I have to say I'm very glad this has a removable battery. As an owner of a regular Razr, I can tell you that not having a removable battery is terrible. On ICS, the phone still gets through most of a day of usage, but not a full one and I always end up having to charge it a bit. This is the bad part, I've got to either plug it up while it still has plenty of charge left and get it back to full, or wait till its almost dead and charge it up about halfway. Either way, its not good for the battery, and I still end up having to wait around on it to charge just a bit more. And as it seems to drain faster when you charge it up from a half charge or so than it does when you go from empty, its typically almost dead again when I get home.

Dealing with all that is a huge PITA, as it shortens the overall battery life, makes me have to wait around and worry about the thing, and still leaves me with a dead phone from time to time. I would expect it would be better if I upgraded to the Maxx battery, but I'd still see the same problem from time to time. Or it'd be just under half charge at night, so I'd hate to charge it yet, but it wouldn't be enough to get me through the next day so I'd have to. Compare this to my Charge, where I had two spare batteries and a wall charger, so I could always have a battery in the phone, one on the charger, and a fully charged one in my pocket. I rarely even charged batteries in the phone itself, and could always drain and fill each battery completely. If it was getting low and I was going out, no worries, I've got a fresh one in my pocket for when it dies. So that was some real peace of mind right there.

Nope. I though I clarified what I meant in this post.



I was not insinuating that the Maxx is a large phone... although I will admit my original post could be construed that way. What I meant was the Maxx does not have an efficient chipset. How Moto achieved the lasting battery life was by packing a large mAh battery into the phone.

Personally I will take an efficient chipset with a removable battery (even smaller mAh) over Moto's approach. But to each their own.

I can say that the chipset is relatively efficient, usually gets me between 8-11 hours or so of decent usage, on LTE all day with no Juice Defender, Smart Actions, or whatever. But I'm really digging the idea of a far more efficient chipset, as well as a slightly larger battery. I don't see it lasting as long as the Maxx, but it should soundly beat the slim Razr. As I said, the past 6 months with the Razr have been decent overall, but the built-in battery has driven me crazy. I demand a removable battery on my next phone, especially one I plan to keep for quite some time.

And again, like many of you, I'm not convinced this is the perfect phone, there's definitely things I wish were different. But all told, I really like Samsung, and this phone looks great. The way Samsung markets devices, it'll be their flagship device for some time now, and even when the Note 2 drops, this will still be the flagship phone (cuz the Note is not quite a phone, just a hair too big). But mainly my hand was forced, as this upgrade was a use it or lose it situation. I'm eagerly awaiting my SGS3, and hopefully it will be a good enough device to hide its few shortcomings.

[rbess1965]

Nope. I though I clarified what I meant in this post.



I was not insinuating that the Maxx is a large phone... although I will admit my original post could be construed that way. What I meant was the Maxx does not have an efficient chipset. How Moto achieved the lasting battery life was by packing a large mAh battery into the phone.

Personally I will take an efficient chipset with a removable battery (even smaller mAh) over Moto's approach. But to each their own.

See what you mean and agree with you. I'm hoping that ICS will make better use of both cores and help it to be more efficient since we can't use extra batteries. I must say however that I've not been in a situation where I've needed a second one so all is well here so far. Sorry if I jumped on you there.