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    Default Verizon Galaxy S3 - Jelly Bean Update and Google Maps/Navigation Rollback

    I really like what I'm seeing so far with the new 4.3 update to my Galaxy S3. Except that it automatically updated my Google Maps/Navigation and I can't figure out how to rollback this time. Google Navigation within the new Google Maps remains one of the most disappointing updates I've ever experienced. Prior to the update one could simply force stop and uninstall updates to get back all of the features that the original Google Navigation had, but now I don't see how I can do that.

    MOST FRUSTRATING NAVIGATION FEATURE THAT THE NEW GOOGLE MAPS TOOK AWAY:

    If you are in the middle of a trip (say 30 miles into your trip) and you hit traffic and want to check alternate routes and traffic times on the fly, the new Google Maps/Navigation shows you routes from where you started, NOT where you are. Well, 30 miles into a trip, why would I care how traffic is back where I started?! I want to see alternate routes and traffic times to my destination from WHERE I AM CURRENTLY! Drives me nuts.

    ...That and everything seems to take an extra click or two to get the info I need vs. the "original Google Navigation". Maps to me is okay, but Navigation took a big hit when it was combined into one app with Maps.

    Any way to roll back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMD View Post
    I really like what I'm seeing so far with the new 4.3 update to my Galaxy S3. Except that it automatically updated my Google Maps/Navigation and I can't figure out how to rollback this time. Google Navigation within the new Google Maps remains one of the most disappointing updates I've ever experienced. Prior to the update one could simply force stop and uninstall updates to get back all of the features that the original Google Navigation had, but now I don't see how I can do that.

    MOST FRUSTRATING NAVIGATION FEATURE THAT THE NEW GOOGLE MAPS TOOK AWAY:

    If you are in the middle of a trip (say 30 miles into your trip) and you hit traffic and want to check alternate routes and traffic times on the fly, the new Google Maps/Navigation shows you routes from where you started, NOT where you are. Well, 30 miles into a trip, why would I care how traffic is back where I started?! I want to see alternate routes and traffic times to my destination from WHERE I AM CURRENTLY! Drives me nuts.

    ...That and everything seems to take an extra click or two to get the info I need vs. the "original Google Navigation". Maps to me is okay, but Navigation took a big hit when it was combined into one app with Maps.

    Any way to roll back?
    I'm trying something hacked a bit from xda-developers...but not really having good luck.

    I called Google at 855.836.3987 which is play store support and got a really nice and caring rep who was genuinely trying to help me figure it out. Sadly, after 35 minutes of troubleshooting, my call dropped. I was told to contact the Play store from the Google Places support. The Places call center is open M-F 6am-5pm PST. If you access their site during that time at support.google.com/places/#contact=1 it has an option where you can have them call you. I felt it was the most reasonable place to contact Google as I can't properly access "My Places" with the Maps 7.xx+.

    I'm fed up with the decontented Maps myself, the more dissatisfied people who call Google with these issues, we might actually get somewhere. I have certainly left lots of feedback to no avail.

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    Hmmm. Anyone else know if/how one can roll back the Maps app to the "good 'ol days" version where Navigation was it's own blossoming and fully featured app?
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    Hate hate maps in 4.3. I would gladly pay for the original navigation

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMD View Post
    Hmmm. Anyone else know if/how one can roll back the Maps app to the "good 'ol days" version where Navigation was it's own blossoming and fully featured app?
    Navigation was not a full app. It was a link into the Google Maps app the same way "Huddle" was a link inside the Google+ app.

    OTA updates always come with updated apps when you do a version upgrade like this. Cannot expect an old version of Google Maps in a 4.3 update the same way people who depend on Google Talk's VoIP calling couldn't have expected Hangouts to not replace Talk in the FW, or Outlook Express users expecting it to come with Windows 7/8... If you needed what you had before the update, you shouldn't have installed the update...
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    Default Re: Jelly Bean Update and Google Maps/Navigation Rollback

    Yeah, well I didn't realize you couldn't roll back like I had done before, til it was too late. I like the update otherwise. I'm sure someone out there will have an idea on how to do it. Somehow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ter#AC View Post
    Navigation was not a full app. It was a link into the Google Maps app the same way "Huddle" was a link inside the Google+ app.

    OTA updates always come with updated apps when you do a version upgrade like this. Cannot expect an old version of Google Maps in a 4.3 update the same way people who depend on Google Talk's VoIP calling couldn't have expected Hangouts to not replace Talk in the FW, or Outlook Express users expecting it to come with Windows 7/8... If you needed what you had before the update, you shouldn't have installed the update...
    When navigation was "separate," you could have maps and navigation open separately. You can't do that now. Along with losing so many useful features and ease of use. Call Google at the 855 number I posted above. And have your friends call too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgcamero View Post
    When navigation was "separate," you could have maps and navigation open separately. You can't do that now. Along with losing so many useful features and ease of use. Call Google at the 855 number I posted above. And have your friends call too.

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    There are more important things for us to waste time on. This barely registers to me if at all, and I never saw a need to have both of those open separately.

    MapQuest and others are still free and usable if the new Maps is an issue for you at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ter#AC View Post
    There are more important things for us to waste time on. This barely registers to me if at all, and I never saw a need to have both of those open separately.

    MapQuest and others are still free and usable if the new Maps is an issue for you at the moment.

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    I can appreciate that the loss of Maps features is alright by you, but not all of us agree. Reviews for the 7+ Maps would generally agree with me. I could download Mapquest and use it. However, I am still unable to access
    "My Maps," Maps 7 does not have elevation profiles available for biking and walking, I can not access the "Local" and see proper Zagat ratings, etc...it's a downgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgcamero View Post
    I can appreciate that the loss of Maps features is alright by you, but not all of us agree. Reviews for the 7+ Maps would generally agree with me. I could download Mapquest and use it. However, I am still unable to access
    "My Maps," Maps 7 does not have elevation profiles available for biking and walking, I can not access the "Local" and see proper Zagat ratings, etc...it's a downgrade.

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    Local is in Google+, as if Latitude. You can access that stuff just fine.

    Reviews are to be taken with a grain bmp of salt.

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    You can try Waze. If it has good maps of your area. I've been using it for a few months and after a while, I actually like it better than GMaps now. It will automatically re-route you if traffic conditions in front of you change.

    I especially like that I can send my wife an email with a semi-live update of my travels. It comes in really handy when trying to get home through Houston traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wabyrd View Post
    You can try Waze. If it has good maps of your area. I've been using it for a few months and after a while, I actually like it better than GMaps now. It will automatically re-route you if traffic conditions in front of you change.

    I especially like that I can send my wife an email with a semi-live update of my travels. It comes in really handy when trying to get home through Houston traffic.
    I generally use Waze myself but its routing is really wonky, and maps. For now I'm just using my LG G2 for navigation because it has Maps 6.14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgcamero View Post
    I generally use Waze myself but its routing is really wonky, and maps. For now I'm just using my LG G2 for navigation because it has Maps 6.14.

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    You're right about the wonky routing. In the beginning it was pretty bad, but as I've used it more, it has gotten better at routing. Now that I've been using it for a while, I usually have good routes displayed. However, just the other day it threw me a route home that took me about 6 miles out of the way! I kept getting closer to home, but it never re-routed me in a more direct/correct way.

    Oh yeah, it was the "update" to Navigation that pushed me to Waze. I miss the old Navigation app.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgcamero View Post
    I generally use Waze myself but its routing is really wonky, and maps. For now I'm just using my LG G2 for navigation because it has Maps 6.14.

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    Just download the old maps app from the web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central n ohios best View Post
    Just download the old maps app from the web.

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    I've tried that and it will not install. There's a bit of a hacked up maps that I've downloaded and installed from xda, but it's not really working. :-/

    Point is, why should we have to go through the trouble to get a properly functioning map and navigation app with access to our saved maps? That's why I recommend anyone who does not like the new downgraded maps app to leave feedback about missing features and issues with the new version, leave 1-star reviews in the play store with concise points about the failures of the new maps, and call them and express your dissatisfaction. The more people who express their negative opinions to Google, the more likely they will correct the issues.

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    What is it saying when u try to install?? How bout a screen shot?

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    And fyi I love the new maps. To me its more convenient seeing as navigation is part of maps.

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    How the hay were to know 4.3 would wipe out navigation. 4.3 in my opinion is a total bust. Gave me nothing

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    Just start your navigation from where you are at that moment.
    Choose a new route, and be on your way.
    A work-around is all you're going to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnieusa View Post
    How the hay were to know 4.3 would wipe out navigation. 4.3 in my opinion is a total bust. Gave me nothing

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    Navigation is still there. I just used it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnieusa View Post
    How the hay were to know 4.3 would wipe out navigation.
    If you took the time to read about 4.3 in the other carriers forums, you would have been well prepared for what this build offered (and removed).

    It's also common for Google to include the latest version of their bloatware when they roll out a new release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central n ohios best View Post
    What is it saying when u try to install?? How bout a screen shot?

    Sent from my T-Mobile LG Escape running 4.1.2 using tapatalk 2 (Central n ohio Austin IL)
    When I try to install Maps 6.14.4 this is what happens:
    Verizon Galaxy S3 - Jelly Bean Update and Google Maps/Navigation Rollback-screenshot_2013-12-20-12-07-50.png

    I have a double version from xda that doesn't work perfectly...but the "Local" feature of it does work properly.

    Here's a "Local" result for restaurants:
    Verizon Galaxy S3 - Jelly Bean Update and Google Maps/Navigation Rollback-screenshot_2013-12-20-12-24-20.png
    Which returns the closest restaurant (el Burrito), and then one that is just past that restaurant (Subway)...

    vs. a Maps 7.5 restaurants result:
    Verizon Galaxy S3 - Jelly Bean Update and Google Maps/Navigation Rollback-screenshot_2013-12-20-12-26-30.png
    Which doesn't even bother to list the closest restaurant...and returns completely different results every time you search, sometimes it will return results in Spring Lake...which is 12 or so miles away.
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    Try to disable the original maps before u install the old version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central n ohios best View Post
    Try to disable the original maps before u install the old version.

    Sent from my T-Mobile LG Escape running 4.1.2 using tapatalk 2 (Central n ohio Austin IL)
    I've tried that 😡 and pretty much every combination of clearing data, stopping, closing, disabling, enabling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlMyk View Post
    Just start your navigation from where you are at that moment.
    Choose a new route, and be on your way.
    A work-around is all you're going to get.
    The previous version of Navigation it was two simple clicks and you'd have 3 alternate routes with traffic estimates from where you are currently. Workarounds are great and all, but not while driving in my opinion. Living in Los Angeles which is the equivalent to the devils armpit for traffic, I'd re-route constantly due to the awful traffic that would emerge on even a short trip across town. Another bonus would be how clear (and zoomed in) it would show the other routes and their various traffic slowdowns. If this single feature was added back, I'd be content as everything else I can live with. But I don't wanna die either fiddling with a workaround.

    WHILE DRIVING (safety issue):

    How many clicks does it take to get alternate routes from where you are currently on your trip?

    OLD VERSION = 2

    NEW VERSION = ?????
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