Verizon's new plans

**SurfingJerry** · 06-15-2012, 04:38 AM

I've been thinking about it and we're just all going to be effectively time warped back to the late 1990s when we mostly talked on our cell phones and used them for txt messaging and WAP. Only this time we'll have the benefit of unlimited talk and text. We'll be forced to find ways to work around the limits of how much data we can afford to pay for. If t&t are "free" we'l use them more.
Websites and apps will also be compelled to minimize page weight like they did in the days of 28.8k modems. Not to save download times, but to conserve our data plans.
Knowing where you can find free WiFi is going to also be very useful.

**MrSmith317** · 06-15-2012, 06:59 AM

Honestly with the push of data everywhere/going mobile. This is a war the major carriers will lose. More personal phones will go to the cheaper prepaid services that are good locally but not nationwide. Smaller businesses will probably change to the cheapest provider. Everyone will be happy except the carriers. They'll start bringing back "unlimited" in an attempt to gain back customers and probably one of the big four will be hurt enough that it will be swallowed by what was a smaller company. Seriously I'm ready for this to be a game changer.

Oh and 100 good posts guys..I'm shocked this topic didn't break 200 already lol.

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**Dovahkiin** · 06-15-2012, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by MrSmith317

Honestly with the push of data everywhere/going mobile. This is a war the major carriers will lose.

I promise you I friggin' KNEW that carriers were popping boners over "the cloud" as it was being pushed on the masses. The cash grab was imminent. As you said before, bandwidth isn't a resource like oil, where once you use it, that portion is gone for good.
If the "data crunch" was a real issue, carriers would have just throttled the highest percentage of users, or kicked them off for good. Verizon encouraged and enticed everyone in sight into switching to 4G. Discounts, promotions, free phones, the works. We knew what the deal was, Joe Schmo didn't, and this is where we are now.
I hope the people that are unfamiliar with this will educate themselves on the subject, realize they're being taken for fools, and strike back with their wallets.

**skatergirl** · 06-15-2012, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Dovahkiin

I promise you I friggin' KNEW that carriers were popping boners over "the cloud" as it was being pushed on the masses. The cash grab was imminent. As you said before, bandwidth isn't a resource like oil, where once you use it, that portion is gone for good.
If the "data crunch" was a real issue, carriers would have just throttled the highest percentage of users, or kicked them off for good. Verizon encouraged and enticed everyone in sight into switching to 4G. Discounts, promotions, free phones, the works. We knew what the deal was, Joe Schmo didn't, and this is where we are now.
I hope the people that are unfamiliar with this will educate themselves on the subject, realize they're being taken for fools, and strike back with their wallets.

The mobile industry has played a dirty trick on consumers by luring everyone into smartphones with 4G service and then turning the tables by limiting data.

Fortunately for me, I am not affected in a negative way because I don’t use a lot of data and I am on wifi a great deal of the time. However, the industry’s tactic of bait and switch is truly sickening and yes, it is going to affect some users in a negative way.

You may be able to vote with your wallet, but by the time you are able to get out of your contract, all the providers may be doing the exact same thing. Seems Sprint is the only one left promoting unlimited data, but how long will that last? And the other question is with all the wifi out there, how many people truly need unlimited data or is it just a matter of principal ... which is OK too!

**Dovahkiin** · 06-15-2012, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by skatergirl

And the other question is with all the wifi out there, how many people truly need unlimited data or is it just a matter of principal ... which is OK too!

If the carriers are looking at it that way, then fine. Let me drop my data package, and let me pay the same price as a dumbphone. I would have no problem with this, but they're trying to eat and take a dump on the same plate. That's not how it works, so no dice with me.

**MrSmith317** · 06-15-2012, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by skatergirl

The mobile industry has played a dirty trick on consumers by luring everyone into smartphones with 4G service and then turning the tables by limiting data.

Fortunately for me, I am not affected in a negative way because I don’t use a lot of data and I am on wifi a great deal of the time. However, the industry’s tactic of bait and switch is truly sickening and yes, it is going to affect some users in a negative way.

You may be able to vote with your wallet, but by the time you are able to get out of your contract, all the providers may be doing the exact same thing. Seems Sprint is the only one left promoting unlimited data, but how long will that last? And the other question is with all the wifi out there, how many people truly need unlimited data or is it just a matter of principal ... which is OK too!

I easily waste a few GB a month streaming music via Google Music(Play...whatever it is today). Then a netflix movie or two for my daughter, Pandora etc. Just my Google Music streaming kicks me over their 2GB easily. So some people have a legit gripe.

**SurfingJerry** · 06-15-2012, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by MrSmith317

Oh and 100 good posts guys..I'm shocked this topic didn't break 200 already lol.

Feels like the Rezound forum is losing some participation. I bet the gross count across all device forums is substantial.

**humpagardengnome** · 06-15-2012, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by MrSmith317

...Oh and 100 good posts guys..I'm shocked this topic didn't break 200 already lol

I'm sure there would be more responses if so many people didn't have to get a head start working double shifts or finding a second job in order to get a head start on saving up to pay their future phone bills.

P.S. Don't forget many are constantly losing the network they're forking out cash to use but can't.

**thepsychorabbit** · 06-15-2012, 09:56 PM

Ok so I did not know what you were talking about but now I do and wowzers that is a change alright.

**twolastnames** · 06-15-2012, 10:44 PM

If it makes anybody feel better..... As far as WiFi goes, all the cable companies that sold spectrum to Verizon, are going to be sharing WiFi hotspots, with each other and with Verizon. The bad news, I'm not sure how many hotspots cable companies actually run, mine runs zero. There has been a rumble of us putting up more, and that its not terribly difficult since we own so much fiber and copper under and above ground.

**humpagardengnome** · 06-15-2012, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by twolastnames

If it makes anybody feel better..... As far as WiFi goes, all the cable companies that sold spectrum to Verizon, are going to be sharing WiFi hotspots, with each other and with Verizon. The bad news, I'm not sure how many hotspots cable companies actually run, mine runs zero. There has been a rumble of us putting up more, and that its not terribly difficult since we own so much fiber and copper under and above ground.

Let me guess, you either work for a sewage system or cable company. Or are they one and the same?

**nw53** · 06-16-2012, 06:42 AM

Here is some new info on the new plans.

**nneptune** · 06-16-2012, 03:37 PM

I complained to VZW over a month goo about this... I'm sure I made a real impact (as in none).

Last month I used over 7 GB due to DISH Network streaming, Pandora, Slacker, Netflix, etc.

This is just plain sad and greedy (obviously)... and REALLY pisses me off as a consumer!

**jdk2** · 06-16-2012, 04:13 PM

I complained as well and feel like it fell on deaf ears. They don't care about us. They're confident that most people don't understand how all of this works. They rake in a fortune and we'll get the shaft. I love how the final parting words from the CSR were "is there anything else I can help you with?". I bit my tongue.

Ry · 06-16-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by twolastnames

If it makes anybody feel better..... As far as WiFi goes, all the cable companies that sold spectrum to Verizon, are going to be sharing WiFi hotspots, with each other and with Verizon. The bad news, I'm not sure how many hotspots cable companies actually run, mine runs zero. There has been a rumble of us putting up more, and that its not terribly difficult since we own so much fiber and copper under and above ground.

What "WiFi spectrum" are you referring to?

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**metz65** · 06-16-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by jdk2

They're confident that most people don't understand how all of this works.

Bingo. That is exactly why they will get by with doing this.

When they tried to do the $2 to pay your bill fee everyone with an account was able to understand how it would affect them, they didn't have to be members of a forum to understand that they were getting shafted.

The shared data is totally different and most smartphone users probably don't realize how bad it is due to Verizon and the media telling them how beneficial it is. When you stop and think about it our voice is in the minority of smartphone users. How many posts and replies are on this site? Then figure out how many people have posted more than once in those threads. Add it all up and the number of people on here who do understand is a very small part of Verizons customers.

Just a few days ago Verizons Facebook Site had under 3000 complaints and of that number once again how many people posted more than once?

Verizon has the edge on this one due to the sheer number of uneducated smartphone owners that have no idea how crazy this shared data policy is.

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**twolastnames** · 06-16-2012, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by humpagardengnome

Let me guess, you either work for a sewage system or cable company. Or are they one and the same?

Well, mine used to not be run terrible, but some major corporate changes are making the future grim.

**pcabe5** · 06-16-2012, 07:41 PM

When does the new plans go in effect? I know when I bought a new data card last month that went from 3G to 4G I lost my unlimited plan on that line. I upgraded my last 3G phone yesterday and I was able to get 4G and keep my unlimited plan on the phones. I guess that will be the last upgrade as I don't want to change plans so I'll pay a full price on future phones that are at least a year old.

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Ry · 06-16-2012, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by pcabe5

When does the new plans go in effect? I know when I bought a new data card last month that went from 3G to 4G I lost my unlimited plan on that line. I upgraded my last 3G phone yesterday and I was able to get 4G and keep my unlimited plan on the phones. I guess that will be the last upgrade as I don't want to change plans so I'll pay a full price on future phones that are at least a year old.

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**dpham00** · 06-16-2012, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by nw53

Here is some new info on the new plans.

even "basic" phone users could get shafted.

current family plan:
$70 for 2 lines 700 min
$30 for 3 additional lines at $10 each
total = $100

shared plan:
$40 700 min 1 line (NO TEXT)
$120 - 4 additional lines at $30 each
Total = $160

So basically, for basic phones, with 5 lines, you are paying $60 more for exactly the same thing.